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Pictures would be nice.

 

The A1W should be a 1963 model with a red insert with white Keysite. If so, it is probably a persimmon club and in the good, but not great, category. In general, the transition to plastic inserts, which all the Keysites were, also came after the old growth was gone and air drying had been replaced with microwave drying. The great stuff is mostly a decade earlier when old growth wood was common, air drying made a nice hard block, and fiber inserts had that classic feel.

 

That being said, the difference between good and great is often more of a resale issue and less of a playing issue. I have some 1963 MTs and play them as well as anything else I have, including the great collectors clubs from the late 40s and 50s. If all I could play with for the rest of my life were my 1963 MTs, I'd be thrilled. So, if they set up right for you, go for it and buy them. You'll get a good player a lower price than an Armour from the 50s.

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That's a highly subjective question that you will have to answer. Overall, I'd say yes, that's a good price. They look like they haven't been hit a lot since being refinished and it would cost you more than $50 a piece to have that done. (Or, even worse, if you do your own work like I do, far more in hours of labor).

 

A playable set of Macgreogor persimmon for $50? That's a deal I'd take if I were going to play them.

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7 hours ago, TommyN said:

$50 for all 4, I assume that's a decent price?

I'd say that's a decent price.  Very decent.  Considering that they are costing you the price of a dozen good balls I'd suggest it's a no-brainer.  They look quite nicely done from the pics shown.  Whether or not they work for you will depend on the same factors as modern equipment, ie: does the shaft flex, swingweight, overall weight, and grip suit you?  With old clubs it's all about trial and error.  You may really like how they look but you can't play well with them - or you love them.  It's a cr^p shoot.  

Another very important factor with old woods is their mechanical integrity.  Refinished doesn't necessarily mean "rebuilt".  Old woods are an assembly of parts all glued and or screwed together.  Over the years the wood itself will expand and contract with environmental conditions and often the old glues will let go.  Old woods meant for real play will often need the shafts reset with modern epoxy adhesives as will the face inserts and sole plates.  Even slightly loosened parts will affect the feel and performance significantly.  In my opinion loose components and old hard grips are 99% of the reason wooden woods get such a bad rap.  That and marketing of course.  A properly maintained or rebuilt driver that is fit well to your swing will perform very comparabley to your modern driver.  But I digress...  Good luck with your new woods and please do report back after you play them.  We'd love to hear about it!

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On 10/17/2022 at 4:32 PM, TommyN said:

$50 for all 4, I assume that's a decent price?

These are persimmon blocks.  $50 is a good price for these.  These woods appear to be in very good condition, definitely refinished.  But as Stephen8802 said, the wood blocks and hardening process is not what it was during the height of persimmon (mid 50s and earlier) but these are still pretty good blocks.

Driver:  TaylorMade 300 Mini 11.5° (10.2°), Fujikura Ventus Blue 5S Velocore

3W:  TaylorMade M4 15°, Graphite Design Tour AD DI 7S

Hybrid:  TaylorMade Sim2 2 Iron Hybrid 17°, Mitsubishi Tensai AV Raw Blue 80 stiff

Irons:  Mizuno Pro 223 4-PW, Nippon Modus3 Tour 120 stiff

GW / SW: Mizuno T-22, 52° (bent to 50°)/ 56° (bent to 54°), True Temper S400

LW:  Scratch Golf 1018 forged 58° DS, Nippon Modus3 Tour 120 stiff

Putter:  Byron Morgan Epic Day custom, Salty MidPlus cork grip

Grips:  BestGrips Augusta Microperf leather slip on

 

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