Early Extension

[SangChan99]

Wanted some feedback if my right foot is causing me to EE or not. The Driver seems off balance and hitting a few off the heel, the iron swing however feels solid IMO. Thanks!

 

 

[SangChan99]

Just now, SangChan99 said:

Wanted some feedback if my right foot is causing me to EE or not. The Driver seems off balance and hitting a few off the heel, the iron swing however feels solid IMO. Thanks!

 

 

[SangChan99]

Just now, SangChan99 said:

 

Driver swing uploaded 

[Righty to Lefty]

No sure why I can never open these videos  in MOV format but either way I will ask if you understand impact?  Do you understand that a driver is struck at a completely different location along your swing arc than a ball being hit off the ground is.  

 

Ball being hit off the ground will be struck prior to low point of the swing arc. The pencil represents the club face and the mark on the trash can denotes the low point of the swing arc and notice how the plane angle / shoulder line is oriented to the left of the target line that the pencil representing the club face is pointed at: 

 

Ball being hit off a tee that will be struck after low point of the swing arc. The pencil represents the club face and the mark on the trash can denotes the low point of the swing arc and notice how the plane angle / shoulder line is oriented to the right of the target line that the pencil representing the club face is pointed at: 

 

Early extension means that you are hitting at the ball when full extension should not occur until well after impact and this video should go a long way to helping you out: 

 

D Plane video that was the source of the still frames that is also very useful: 

 

Edited October 26, 2022 by Righty to Lefty
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3 hours ago, Righty to Lefty said:

 

 

 

To open those files, try using Firefox. Lots of members have the same problem.  Chrome and Edge won't open them. I get weird messages that say the file can't be found when using those browsers.  Firefox opens them without a problem.

[Righty to Lefty]

 

You actually hit up on this ball about as much as you could for how low it is teed up which is good and the way I can tell that is because it looks like you are hitting a pull which is a good thing on video while hitting driver.  I wasn't quite able to freeze you right at impact but I can see that your trail arm is already fully extended but you may not be able to help it for a reason tied to your right heel.  Your right heel comes off the ground very early in your take away and stays in roughly the same position for the whole swing and I have to believe that you do it because of a mobility issue in the hips and lower back region because of course your base would be most stable if both feet stayed planted on the ground through your swing but you may not physically be able to due to tight hips and lower back. Justin Thomas does this in his swing also but not as early as you do and he still manages to play good golf. It isn't a deal breaker as you also recover very well from immediately dropping the club well to the inside so you are managing your body to get the club to impact which is the most important thing.  You are not actually early extending because both of your legs would be fully straightened at impact if you were so early extension is actually not what is happening in your swing and I think it is more of a mobility issue as you are actually hitting this driver shot just about as good as you could for the given tee height.   

 

This is the model representation of the shot that you hit: 

 

I think that some hip, low back, and hamstring work will get you more mobile in those areas and will eventually help you to be more stable in your lower body but your impact is about as good as it can be for your current physical condition.  Am I making sense?  R to L

[SangChan99]

10 hours ago, Righty to Lefty said:

 

You actually hit up on this ball about as much as you could for how low it is teed up which is good and the way I can tell that is because it looks like you are hitting a pull which is a good thing on video while hitting driver.  I wasn't quite able to freeze you right at impact but I can see that your trail arm is already fully extended but you may not be able to help it for a reason tied to your right heel.  Your right heel comes off the ground very early in your take away and stays in roughly the same position for the whole swing and I have to believe that you do it because of a mobility issue in the hips and lower back region because of course your base would be most stable if both feet stayed planted on the ground through your swing but you may not physically be able to due to tight hips and lower back. Justin Thomas does this in his swing also but not as early as you do and he still manages to play good golf. It isn't a deal breaker as you also recover very well from immediately dropping the club well to the inside so you are managing your body to get the club to impact which is the most important thing.  You are not actually early extending because both of your legs would be fully straightened at impact if you were so early extension is actually not what is happening in your swing and I think it is more of a mobility issue as you are actually hitting this driver shot just about as good as you could for the given tee height.   

 

This is the model representation of the shot that you hit: 

 

I think that some hip, low back, and hamstring work will get you more mobile in those areas and will eventually help you to be more stable in your lower body but your impact is about as good as it can be for your current physical condition.  Am I making sense?  R to L

Absolutely, if I wake up and go straight to the range and pull out driver, that right heel comes up way quicker versus if I stretched, walked a bit, and started hitting balls. I’ve also noticed my swing in general just feels way more in balanced on the back 9 versus the front 9. Wondering if it could just be nerves and I get tight.  It’s just tough to figure out what exercises work best. I’ve noticed a full mobility workout does the trick but still trying to figure out what I can do to swing decently without having to do a 35min workout beforehand. Thank you for this!

[Righty to Lefty]

12 hours ago, SangChan99 said:

Absolutely, if I wake up and go straight to the range and pull out driver, that right heel comes up way quicker versus if I stretched, walked a bit, and started hitting balls. I’ve also noticed my swing in general just feels way more in balanced on the back 9 versus the front 9. Wondering if it could just be nerves and I get tight.  It’s just tough to figure out what exercises work best. I’ve noticed a full mobility workout does the trick but still trying to figure out what I can do to swing decently without having to do a 35min workout beforehand. Thank you for this!

I found the best way is to incorporate your mobility work into your day. Case in point as I type this reply to you I am sitting in my desk chair with a lacrosse ball under my hamstring trying to work out the knots and I do this everyday.  I will also do my foam rolling stuff at any time I want to watch television instead of sitting in a chair so I incorporate it into my day and it just makes me more efficient.  Sure certain exercises will maybe need gym equipment so you can save those for that time but a lot of progress can be made by incorporating your workout into your day. 

 

If you do 7, 5 minute workouts during the day that is equivalent work to one 35 minute one and I would also suggest something simple that I often do like warming up the hamstrings and low back with a heating pad in the morning or on your drive in to work so that they will be more receptive to your stretches.  Also keep in mind that often the location of the tightness is most often not the source.  By that I mean a tight low back is often caused by tight hamstrings so you should keep that in mind. I always just start with a lacrosse ball on the feet, then to the calf area, then hamstrings, then low back, in that order but you can find the routine that works best for you.  

 

Keep in mind that as you increase your range of motion and become more mobile that your swing motion will evolve so understand that you may have to adjust the location of the ball along your swing arc accordingly as you progress, just know that impact didn't change, but how you will feel to produce it will most likely change but impact is boss in all instances.    

[SangChan99]

On 10/28/2022 at 2:13 AM, Righty to Lefty said:

I found the best way is to incorporate your mobility work into your day. Case in point as I type this reply to you I am sitting in my desk chair with a lacrosse ball under my hamstring trying to work out the knots and I do this everyday.  I will also do my foam rolling stuff at any time I want to watch television instead of sitting in a chair so I incorporate it into my day and it just makes me more efficient.  Sure certain exercises will maybe need gym equipment so you can save those for that time but a lot of progress can be made by incorporating your workout into your day. 

 

If you do 7, 5 minute workouts during the day that is equivalent work to one 35 minute one and I would also suggest something simple that I often do like warming up the hamstrings and low back with a heating pad in the morning or on your drive in to work so that they will be more receptive to your stretches.  Also keep in mind that often the location of the tightness is most often not the source.  By that I mean a tight low back is often caused by tight hamstrings so you should keep that in mind. I always just start with a lacrosse ball on the feet, then to the calf area, then hamstrings, then low back, in that order but you can find the routine that works best for you.  

 

Keep in mind that as you increase your range of motion and become more mobile that your swing motion will evolve so understand that you may have to adjust the location of the ball along your swing arc accordingly as you progress, just know that impact didn't change, but how you will feel to produce it will most likely change but impact is boss in all instances.    

Appreciate this. I’ve been really focusing on mechanics and have been lagging with working on physical mobility. I think I’ll shift that direction for this upcoming month and see how it helps. Thank you!