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I have literally played, bought and sold probably 20 iron sets over the last 5 years.  Definition of a club hoe here.  Everytime I see a new iron I get that warm and tingly feeling down below.   But seriously. T100. P770. MC501. 223, 225, i59, etc.  

 

I will say. Most of these I played in different shafts. And most of these were probably always different swing weights too.  So needless to say. Some I loved. Some I didn’t.  But recently I’ve found a shaft that I really like.  And I’d say probably some of what I didn’t like about some of them was probably just the shaft and swing weight. 
 

that all said. I’m ready to settle down. I’m actually tired of adjusting to new swing weights and looking down at different offsets etc. I finally have matured and ready to get married. Stop my partying days haha. 
 

what would you guys say is the best players style iron out these days?  Small. Compact. Thin. Narrow. Little offset but packs a punch and isn’t just strictly a blade.  I don’t want something crazy lofted like the 225.  But wouldn’t mind something that assists in making the game a little easier. 
 

really intrigued with the new i230 coming out.  But of course I am.  It’s a new iron haha. 
 

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I would’ve said AP2, but not far different from T100. Have you hit Z745 or Z785? If not, definitely recommend trying.. I’ve hit or played any major iron in the past 5 years. Have always come back. 

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Small and compact rules out all the Srixon models, they are long from heel to toe. Also probably rules out all of the hollow bodied irons as they tend to be longer heel to toe as well.

 

Candidates would be Wilson Staff CB (I switched from Srixon to these because the Wilson is more compact), TM P7MC, T100/100s, 620MB. 

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I’m on the same page with you. I’m tired of the endless cavalcade of irons arriving at my front door. I’d like to find the one iron set I’d play for the next five years. I think my game suffers from the constant tinkering. 
 

I haven’t hit the i230 but I think it could be the one. I demoed the i210 and really enjoyed that iron but never bought a set due to the ridiculous lead times. 
 

I’ve enjoyed the New Level 623CB irons I’ve been playing. Problem is I don’t think the shaft is working for me. I haven’t compared the physical dimensions to the i210/i230 but they look very similar. Benefits of the NL CB are it is fully forged, traditionally lofted (34° 7 iron), and you could buy two sets of irons from NL with what you would spend on the i230s. 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Jmccas said:

Benefits of the NL CB are it is fully forged, traditionally lofted (34° 7 iron)

I would think that in 2022 these 2 things matter very little to most.  Polymers are being embraced.  I have lots of fully forged sets laying around (blades and cb's) that get little to no playing time anymore and are just going to be sold off.

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3 hours ago, GolfisLife1 said:

...that all said. I’m ready to settle down. I’m actually tired of adjusting to new swing weights and looking down at different offsets etc. I finally have matured and ready to get married. Stop my partying days haha. 
 

...really intrigued with the new i230 coming out.  But of course I am.  It’s a new iron haha. 
 

help me!

This is a trick, right 😜?  

Dude, you do not have to play this game with yourself to justify a new set of irons.  We trust you.  Just pick one.    

 

Seriously, I think golf clubs are like guitars; if you know how many you have, you don't have enough.  

Let us know which set you choose, next.

 

P.S.  You're beyond help 🙂.  

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I’m in my honeymoon phase with the P7MC raw irons. Only box they don’t tick is a little extra help but if ordered a degree strong the lofts match a lot of the other players irons out there.

 

I had a set of i210’s and they were stupid easy to hit so I’m guessing the long awaited i230’s will truly be something special. Lots of options releasing soon it’s probably best to wait and hit all the new demos before making a final decision.

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I’m hoping the i230s will be this set for me. I’m like you, a WRXer — P7MCs, JPX 921 SEL, i210s, ZX5/7s, etc., within the last two years. 

 

One thing I like about most Ping irons is that they’re cast, which hopefully means a little more resilient than forged iron heads. I like the rounded leading edge and a bit more bounce. I’m hoping DG 120s will help keep launch and spin in check a little.

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Heres your problem. Variation.

 

Buy 8 favourite grips.eg gptv

Buy 1 set favourite shafts.

Buy 2 bags at Golfworks 66TI ferrules.and tip weights.

Buy swingweight scale.

Small weight scale electronic for parts shafts tip weights heads.

Now you can buy used sets you Have Loved in the Past and rebuild to suit you.😇

 

 

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I am the exact opposite of the OP.

 

I am still playing my Nike Pro Forged Combo Tours with X-100 shafts. I still hit it good, but I am in my mid-50's and keep threatening to treat myself to new irons for the next phase. I just hate the idea of starting with something new.

 

So, I look and play yet another season with the old clubs.

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If you are really serious about "settling down" you can just keep playing the set you have now.

 

Kind of like the threads about people who want to get back to basics and simplify their game with a "minimalist set" of just 7 irons...which of course they go out and buy new in addition to the five, 14-club sets they already own. 

 

Buying yet another new set of irons is NOT a way to quit club ho'ing...

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What did you think of the P770? In my mind they seem the best of both worlds. 

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forever iron, small, compact , not much offset, packs a punch, amazing feel. all this points to Miura TC-201's to me. If its a forever iron, go big or go home. Such an amazing iron. I love mizuno's but I've tried these and they are so great! I thought id maybe lose distance but I actually gained. Just a cost factor for me.

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If you want to insist on small clubs, they won't be very forgiving, even with perimeter weighting. You really need to get the mass significantly further outward if you want to notice a difference. You can't ask for small sizes and thin top-lines and still expect noticeable forgiveness.

 

Srixon Z-forged or Mizuno MP-64? That's MB vs CB but they have the same level of forgiveness. I think if you're worried about forgiveness you need to accept that and go with something that's actually delivering in that--not just aesthetically. 

 

People get too hung up on finding the "perfect" mix of all that crap. 

 

If you want a player's club just accept it won't be as forgiving as other options and so pick what you like the look and feel of. Pay attention to whether its turf interaction inspires confidence or whether it encourages you to modify your swing in some awkward way. 

 

For example, if you're strongly downward AoA and try a narrow club, you'll start flipping to compensate. That's a bad fit. 

 

I think what you need to find is a head that is "good enough" paired with the right shaft. Shafts vary in flex and weight and those parameters can make a world of difference. 

 

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Friend MelloYello has it just about right.

 

You can work around a small head with less than maximum MOI and heel-toe/high-low forgiveness. But you can't work around a sole that's "unforgiving" w.r.t turf interaction for your most common mishits. Constantly reacting to bad turf interaction will quickly turn your swing into dog food. 

 

Just forget about trying to optimize tiny bits of extra tungsten here or there or whatever. Get irons you like the looks of with a sole that keeps you happy on both flush hits and slight mishits. The pick a shaft and go play. 

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20 minutes ago, littletimbo182 said:

T100 and call it a day!

 

LOL....I mean, right?

 

The AP2 (and T100) have literally been THE answer to this question for a decade now. 

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On 10/30/2022 at 7:42 AM, PEI_Golfer said:

I would think that in 2022 these 2 things matter very little to most.  Polymers are being embraced.  I have lots of fully forged sets laying around (blades and cb's) that get little to no playing time anymore and are just going to be sold off.

You can't say those things around here.  90% of GolfWRX play blades or player's CB, lol.  🤪

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