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Also another thing I never could get figured out with R10 was with Driver. You hit Driver and the Thing would say it carried 200yds but the total would be something crazy like 310?? It would show 110yds rollout even me changing ground firmness to soft and everything. Never could get that right!

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On 11/25/2022 at 11:52 PM, Simpsonia said:

 

The R10 is radar based and experiences the same interference any radar-based launch monitor would experience. Fans in the radar window are one common source, as are fluorescent lights. But if the R10 is experiencing interference, then any and all radar based launch monitors would as well in the same situation, including the much more expensive Flightscope LMs as well as Trackman. 

 

As was mentioned, the R10 has had significant firmware updates since launch. Outdoors it reads (rather than calculates) spin if has more than 20 meters of ball flight. Note that environmental conditions can affect this, ie if you are in a very enclosed range, clearly the radar can't read the ball if there's an overhang that gets in-between the ball and unit that might be common with short-irons/wedges. 

 

Indoors it has added capability to use RCT balls (and/or metal dots) to help read spin rather than calculate. However, for indoor measurements, the metal dots do not aid in reading side-spin. The metal dots only really give accurate total/backspin numbers, so accurate alignment of the R10 unit itself is absolutely essential for getting somewhat reliable spin-axis/side-spin numbers. Even then that really is the main weakness of the R10, but hard to fault it when it's almost 1/4 the price of the next more accurate LM up. 

This is pretty interesting, did not know about the lighting. Over here, they have the flourescent strips on all the ranges, together with a fan at each bay ! This explains more why i see the results i did. I did not have it with say, the PRGR as much, it was more reliable and realistic for the most part, however, i had hoped to see more spin numbers from the R10. E12, for example, seems to be fairly decent for spin rate. The thing i'm noticing that stands out on R10, is that it's 6ft behind, maybe that has something to do with it under my specific environment.

 

20m ball flight is another interesting fact i did not know about, however, i still expect to see a fair bit more spin from a 50yard pitch at a fair speed. At least for me, it doesn't match to the visual results on anything under 120yards from various clubs and shot types.

 

Over a few different tries with it, my driver average is 247, 253, 246, 250. I average 270 yard carry on the course, up to 300 at times. my courses have soft fairways and i hit a bit down on the ball, so i don't count on rollout.

 

I read a silver christmas marker might also work. I would maybe try it on 30 to 50 balls, but not really feasible for 200.

On 11/26/2022 at 1:24 AM, Longdriver295 said:

I've just come to realize to me after hitting 300 shots with it, it is just not worth it (not to me). As hammer mentioned for what I want, You better off with a range finder and hit your clubs in real-time situations on the course. Sure you not gonna know spin and launch angle but you will nail down yardages to almost exact. And you will know if you hooking it or slicing it. And really to know your game that's really all you need. I'm a 4hcp and never once been on a LM until I bought the R10. Now I know why I stayed away from them. All I really wanted it for was for a little better gapping of my clubs because I've only had my new clubs a year. As for as I'm concerned a Rangefinder is the BEST tool you can have. 

i'm of the same opinion, it's not for me, unless the firmware really could improve the results i'm seeing. Maybe just too high expectations ?

What you're looking for sounds similar to Arccos or Shot Scope, or i think even Grint you can do manually.

Seems strange to be 4 handi and not know your gapping ? or do i misunderstand ? On course, also has more variables like wind, slope, lie, so be aware, it takes some time to accumulate the data and  it's only really worth the subscription cost if you will play at least once per week.

I used Arccos for about 3 years, recently gave it up, however, contemplating having it again, because i quite miss it while playing on the course to get the layout and the gps, matched up to the club selection. (i actually never use their club selection, as it's hit and miss). Would be nice if they had a discounted rate (or arguably, even for free) to track the yardage from the sensor and use the gps mapping. The caddie, wind, slope, tempo and other calculations should be what they charge for.

I cheaped out on my rangefinder initially, so for me, it doesn't work. Agreed, if you know your distances and range for each club and shot type, a range finder is good enough. I should investigate maybe the Nikon for stabilisation together with some zoom. the one i have has no telescoping range, which makes it pretty inaccurate. You get what you pay for, in this case 🙂

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1 hour ago, Andygolderson said:

This is pretty interesting, did not know about the lighting. Over here, they have the flourescent strips on all the ranges, together with a fan at each bay ! This explains more why i see the results i did. I did not have it with say, the PRGR as much, it was more reliable and realistic for the most part, however, i had hoped to see more spin numbers from the R10. E12, for example, seems to be fairly decent for spin rate. The thing i'm noticing that stands out on R10, is that it's 6ft behind, maybe that has something to do with it under my specific environment.

 

20m ball flight is another interesting fact i did not know about, however, i still expect to see a fair bit more spin from a 50yard pitch at a fair speed. At least for me, it doesn't match to the visual results on anything under 120yards from various clubs and shot types.

 

Over a few different tries with it, my driver average is 247, 253, 246, 250. I average 270 yard carry on the course, up to 300 at times. my courses have soft fairways and i hit a bit down on the ball, so i don't count on rollout.

 

I read a silver christmas marker might also work. I would maybe try it on 30 to 50 balls, but not really feasible for 200.

i'm of the same opinion, it's not for me, unless the firmware really could improve the results i'm seeing. Maybe just too high expectations ?

What you're looking for sounds similar to Arccos or Shot Scope, or i think even Grint you can do manually.

Seems strange to be 4 handi and not know your gapping ? or do i misunderstand ? On course, also has more variables like wind, slope, lie, so be aware, it takes some time to accumulate the data and  it's only really worth the subscription cost if you will play at least once per week.

I used Arccos for about 3 years, recently gave it up, however, contemplating having it again, because i quite miss it while playing on the course to get the layout and the gps, matched up to the club selection. (i actually never use their club selection, as it's hit and miss). Would be nice if they had a discounted rate (or arguably, even for free) to track the yardage from the sensor and use the gps mapping. The caddie, wind, slope, tempo and other calculations should be what they charge for.

I cheaped out on my rangefinder initially, so for me, it doesn't work. Agreed, if you know your distances and range for each club and shot type, a range finder is good enough. I should investigate maybe the Nikon for stabilisation together with some zoom. the one i have has no telescoping range, which makes it pretty inaccurate. You get what you pay for, in this case 🙂

Well main thing with the gapping is I've got new irons, So I don't know them quite as well, Even though I'm close. It's mainly the Carry distances I really need to dial in. As for as a range finder it is the most accurate tool you will have when it comes to yardages. I've already got my R10 up for sale it's just to much stuff and way more than I need. 

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1 hour ago, shackmangolf said:

72 ss 104 ball speed is 1.4 smash factor. Thats dead on. 

That is how smash is calculated so obviously it'll be dead-on, unless Garmin can't do basic arithmetic.

 

The oddity is that tour pros don't start getting into 1.4 smash until 5i/6i so something about it seems off with 8i.

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On 11/22/2022 at 9:18 PM, Longdriver295 said:

Ok if you say so, Since this post I've gotten it dialed in, and there's been a new update to the R10 which now uses RCT which spin is NOT calculated but Is Read. And All the issues you mentioned I've had no issues with since I've gotten it setup better and using a more Accurate software. Your opinion is your Opinion, but I'm starting to love the R10. And BTW I play off a 4hcp so I do know for most part what I'm seeing and what is happening. The R10 is now pretty spot on with my game.

 

On 11/25/2022 at 12:24 PM, Longdriver295 said:

I've just come to realize to me after hitting 300 shots with it, it is just not worth it (not to me). As hammer mentioned for what I want, You better off with a range finder and hit your clubs in real-time situations on the course. Sure you not gonna know spin and launch angle but you will nail down yardages to almost exact. And you will know if you hooking it or slicing it. And really to know your game that's really all you need. I'm a 4hcp and never once been on a LM until I bought the R10. Now I know why I stayed away from them. All I really wanted it for was for a little better gapping of my clubs because I've only had my new clubs a year. As for as I'm concerned a Rangefinder is the BEST tool you can have. 

 

 

3 days apart? After arguing with everyone about the R10 problems in every thread? Facts (not opinions) about a product and its capabilities are widely available prior to purchase. Highly suggest you do some research and listen to what people are trying to tell you next time. 

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On 11/30/2022 at 10:14 PM, mgoblue83 said:

 

 

 

3 days apart? After arguing with everyone about the R10 problems in every thread? Facts (not opinions) about a product and its capabilities are widely available prior to purchase. Highly suggest you do some research and listen to what people are trying to tell you next time. 

And yet you think you know it all. I definitely won't listen to you next time. 

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It’s probably me but the garman app keeps asking me for my ip address and I put it in and nothing happens could my vpn cause the problem.

I usually have no problem setting up computer related things and I have bluetooth connected but I’m lost on this.

The app only gets a one star rating so that may be a problem.

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