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I see someone here doesn't believe my stats, heres my swing nothing pretty but effective and simple once the club starts going back. This is my 4 iron, I'm generally around 93 mph. My 43" 3 wood is 103 to 109, my clubhead speed jumps around according to my radar, which finally broke.

 

 

 

 

"Shirtsleeve" swing technique:

1. Setup: Elbows bent forearms pressed together against shaft slightly forward of center with "Hogan" "active/flexed" leg tension left foot turned out slightly and the right leg slightly farther to the right - weight mostly on balls of feet butt of left hands sits on the top of the grip with very light grip.

2. Swing - W/o disturbing weight distribution of legs and feet lower hands while doing a forward press "swing trigger" then the left upper arm takes over on the backswing, it needs to go out in front of the body then back in front of the chest as the hands trace down initially then up to over the right shoulder "Torres". The goal is to not disturb the pressure of the feet during the initial takeaway.

 

Notes:

1. Only swing thought after swing trigger - extend left arm at shirt sleeve when reaching left hand over right shoulder "Shirtsleeve technique".

2. The upper left arm move "Shirtsleeve technique" can be practiced independently without a club, sitting down for instance

3. The correct feet tension can be felt by doing very short hops on the balls of the feet then holding the same feeling of pressure on the front of the feet and then taking three practice swings with the grip very loose in order to not disturb the same pressure on the feet and on the 3rd swing actively do the "Shirtsleeve" move. From there the swing should be done within a matter of seconds to not lose the feel of the legs resisting, this way this is not a learned technique as much as it is a setup technique.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, chipa said:

I see someone here doesn't believe my stats, heres my swing nothing pretty but effective and simple once the club starts going back. This is my 4 iron, I'm generally around 93 mph. My 43" 3 wood is 103 to 109, my clubhead speed jumps around according to my radar, which finally broke.

 

 

 

 

You could be faster too...a little earlier push into that lead foot and then using it to brace the swing into...you'd gain another 3-5 mph

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9 minutes ago, chipa said:

I see someone here doesn't believe my stats, heres my swing nothing pretty but effective and simple once the club starts going back. This is my 4 iron, I'm generally around 93 mph. My 43" 3 wood is 103 to 109, my clubhead speed jumps around according to my radar, which finally broke.

 

 

 

 

93 mph clubhead speed translates into about 139.5 ball speed and about a 244 carry distance. So that ball went 240yrds?

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4 minutes ago, getitdaily said:

You could be faster too...a little earlier push into that lead foot and then using it to brace the swing into...you'd gain another 3-5 mph

 

Thanks for the advice, I really appreciate it buddy. However, I have three fused vertebrae from an accident and I feel its a miracle I can walk. If you notice I pick the club up early I have learned to do this to keep my lower back tight which limits back pain. If I didn't have these health issues I would agree 100% this is the way to go. Take care.

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"Shirtsleeve" swing technique:

1. Setup: Elbows bent forearms pressed together against shaft slightly forward of center with "Hogan" "active/flexed" leg tension left foot turned out slightly and the right leg slightly farther to the right - weight mostly on balls of feet butt of left hands sits on the top of the grip with very light grip.

2. Swing - W/o disturbing weight distribution of legs and feet lower hands while doing a forward press "swing trigger" then the left upper arm takes over on the backswing, it needs to go out in front of the body then back in front of the chest as the hands trace down initially then up to over the right shoulder "Torres". The goal is to not disturb the pressure of the feet during the initial takeaway.

 

Notes:

1. Only swing thought after swing trigger - extend left arm at shirt sleeve when reaching left hand over right shoulder "Shirtsleeve technique".

2. The upper left arm move "Shirtsleeve technique" can be practiced independently without a club, sitting down for instance

3. The correct feet tension can be felt by doing very short hops on the balls of the feet then holding the same feeling of pressure on the front of the feet and then taking three practice swings with the grip very loose in order to not disturb the same pressure on the feet and on the 3rd swing actively do the "Shirtsleeve" move. From there the swing should be done within a matter of seconds to not lose the feel of the legs resisting, this way this is not a learned technique as much as it is a setup technique.

 

 

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19 minutes ago, chipa said:

 

Thanks for the advice, I really appreciate it buddy. However, I have three fused vertebrae from an accident and I feel its a miracle I can walk. If you notice I pick the club up early I have learned to do this to keep my lower back tight which limits back pain. If I didn't have these health issues I would agree 100% this is the way to go. Take care.

I'll restate...you could be faster too. Normal back, without issues and you'd gain 3-5 mph...lol. 

 

Good motion considering your back. 

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11 minutes ago, getitdaily said:

I'll restate...you could be faster too. Normal back, without issues and you'd gain 3-5 mph...lol. 

 

Good motion considering your back. 

 

Thanks buddy I appreciate the positive comments. My lower back issues mean I can't bend over enough with my irons, hence I swing easier, my 25 deg. 4 iron goes around 188 but my 3w is about 240-255 carry normally. I drove the green 300 yards the same day of the video with a wind aided drive. The prior hole I hit it just over 220 into the same breeze and about 60 feet uphill.

"Shirtsleeve" swing technique:

1. Setup: Elbows bent forearms pressed together against shaft slightly forward of center with "Hogan" "active/flexed" leg tension left foot turned out slightly and the right leg slightly farther to the right - weight mostly on balls of feet butt of left hands sits on the top of the grip with very light grip.

2. Swing - W/o disturbing weight distribution of legs and feet lower hands while doing a forward press "swing trigger" then the left upper arm takes over on the backswing, it needs to go out in front of the body then back in front of the chest as the hands trace down initially then up to over the right shoulder "Torres". The goal is to not disturb the pressure of the feet during the initial takeaway.

 

Notes:

1. Only swing thought after swing trigger - extend left arm at shirt sleeve when reaching left hand over right shoulder "Shirtsleeve technique".

2. The upper left arm move "Shirtsleeve technique" can be practiced independently without a club, sitting down for instance

3. The correct feet tension can be felt by doing very short hops on the balls of the feet then holding the same feeling of pressure on the front of the feet and then taking three practice swings with the grip very loose in order to not disturb the same pressure on the feet and on the 3rd swing actively do the "Shirtsleeve" move. From there the swing should be done within a matter of seconds to not lose the feel of the legs resisting, this way this is not a learned technique as much as it is a setup technique.

 

 

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59 minutes ago, Gsea said:

93 mph clubhead speed translates into about 139.5 ball speed and about a 244 carry distance. So that ball went 240yrds?

 

I don't know where you are gettign those numbers from but my 4 iron is 25 deg. and I hit it around 190 total. That particular swing was on the toe and it was about 190 from the tee based on Google maps into a slight breeze. Here are the PGA trackman results as a reference. I don't know what the pros lofts are but expect they are on the weak side. 

 

https://blog.trackmangolf.com/trackman-average-tour-stats/

"Shirtsleeve" swing technique:

1. Setup: Elbows bent forearms pressed together against shaft slightly forward of center with "Hogan" "active/flexed" leg tension left foot turned out slightly and the right leg slightly farther to the right - weight mostly on balls of feet butt of left hands sits on the top of the grip with very light grip.

2. Swing - W/o disturbing weight distribution of legs and feet lower hands while doing a forward press "swing trigger" then the left upper arm takes over on the backswing, it needs to go out in front of the body then back in front of the chest as the hands trace down initially then up to over the right shoulder "Torres". The goal is to not disturb the pressure of the feet during the initial takeaway.

 

Notes:

1. Only swing thought after swing trigger - extend left arm at shirt sleeve when reaching left hand over right shoulder "Shirtsleeve technique".

2. The upper left arm move "Shirtsleeve technique" can be practiced independently without a club, sitting down for instance

3. The correct feet tension can be felt by doing very short hops on the balls of the feet then holding the same feeling of pressure on the front of the feet and then taking three practice swings with the grip very loose in order to not disturb the same pressure on the feet and on the 3rd swing actively do the "Shirtsleeve" move. From there the swing should be done within a matter of seconds to not lose the feel of the legs resisting, this way this is not a learned technique as much as it is a setup technique.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, chipa said:

 

I don't know where you are gettign those numbers from but my 4 iron is 25 deg. and I hit it around 190 total. That particular swing was on the toe and it was about 190 from the tee based on Google maps into a slight breeze. Here are the PGA trackman results as a reference. I don't know what the pros lofts are but expect they are on the weak side. 

 

https://blog.trackmangolf.com/trackman-average-tour-stats/

rule of thumb is usually clubhead speed x 1.5 gives u ball speed, then ball speed x1.75 gives u distance. so 195yrd carry is about 75 clubhead speed.

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3 hours ago, Gsea said:

rule of thumb is usually clubhead speed x 1.5 gives u ball speed, then ball speed x1.75 gives u distance. so 195yrd carry is about 75 clubhead speed.

That's with a driver and on the high side. The pros are around 1.43 with a 4/5 iron so the ball speed would be no more than 139 mph and according to Trackman that falls between a 4 and 5 iron and corresponds to a carry of 196 yards for a 5 iron. I expect I'm a little short due to my smash factor prob. being around 1.40 on average. Sometimes I do hit it on the screws and the ball goes further.

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"Shirtsleeve" swing technique:

1. Setup: Elbows bent forearms pressed together against shaft slightly forward of center with "Hogan" "active/flexed" leg tension left foot turned out slightly and the right leg slightly farther to the right - weight mostly on balls of feet butt of left hands sits on the top of the grip with very light grip.

2. Swing - W/o disturbing weight distribution of legs and feet lower hands while doing a forward press "swing trigger" then the left upper arm takes over on the backswing, it needs to go out in front of the body then back in front of the chest as the hands trace down initially then up to over the right shoulder "Torres". The goal is to not disturb the pressure of the feet during the initial takeaway.

 

Notes:

1. Only swing thought after swing trigger - extend left arm at shirt sleeve when reaching left hand over right shoulder "Shirtsleeve technique".

2. The upper left arm move "Shirtsleeve technique" can be practiced independently without a club, sitting down for instance

3. The correct feet tension can be felt by doing very short hops on the balls of the feet then holding the same feeling of pressure on the front of the feet and then taking three practice swings with the grip very loose in order to not disturb the same pressure on the feet and on the 3rd swing actively do the "Shirtsleeve" move. From there the swing should be done within a matter of seconds to not lose the feel of the legs resisting, this way this is not a learned technique as much as it is a setup technique.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Chunkitgood said:

So, a scratch golfer has an average drive of about 250 yards, swing speed probably less than 100, with 150 smash factor ball speed less than 150.

 

Are all you guys pluses?


Logically the question doesn't make sense. It's reasonable to draw the conclusion that longer hitters are as a group more likely to be good players, but it doesn't mean that all long hitters are good players. 

 

With that being said, I am definitely not a plus despite being very confident off the tee...playing more like an 8-9 these days having formerly been between 0 and 2 back when I was playing a lot more. My tendency is a flippy swing so the wedge game leaves me really quickly if I don't keep it in shape. I'd probably trade it for the opposite some days (wayward driving, sharp short-iron play) thinking that'd probably be a less disappointing way to play the game than bombing it and then struggling to get down in 3 from inside 100y middle of the fairway, but that's just life. 

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18 minutes ago, Chunkitgood said:

So, a scratch golfer has an average drive of about 250 yards, swing speed probably less than 100, with 150 smash factor ball speed less than 150.

 

Are all you guys pluses?

 

I'm not a plus. However, I am back on track to shooting in the low 80's. There is a lot more to golf than driving and a few ob balls don't help, which is not uncommon for big hitters.

"Shirtsleeve" swing technique:

1. Setup: Elbows bent forearms pressed together against shaft slightly forward of center with "Hogan" "active/flexed" leg tension left foot turned out slightly and the right leg slightly farther to the right - weight mostly on balls of feet butt of left hands sits on the top of the grip with very light grip.

2. Swing - W/o disturbing weight distribution of legs and feet lower hands while doing a forward press "swing trigger" then the left upper arm takes over on the backswing, it needs to go out in front of the body then back in front of the chest as the hands trace down initially then up to over the right shoulder "Torres". The goal is to not disturb the pressure of the feet during the initial takeaway.

 

Notes:

1. Only swing thought after swing trigger - extend left arm at shirt sleeve when reaching left hand over right shoulder "Shirtsleeve technique".

2. The upper left arm move "Shirtsleeve technique" can be practiced independently without a club, sitting down for instance

3. The correct feet tension can be felt by doing very short hops on the balls of the feet then holding the same feeling of pressure on the front of the feet and then taking three practice swings with the grip very loose in order to not disturb the same pressure on the feet and on the 3rd swing actively do the "Shirtsleeve" move. From there the swing should be done within a matter of seconds to not lose the feel of the legs resisting, this way this is not a learned technique as much as it is a setup technique.

 

 

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On 11/19/2022 at 8:30 PM, bladehunter said:

You should have seen what I could do at 35.  It’s old. Trust me. 

 

What happened to you?? I have been on an upward trajectory for years lol.  Age is just a number (injury's however, those stupid things are real and suck!)

 

Edit: Ope nvm, saw your other post.  You too know the suckiness that are injury's.  I am hoping I will recover from mine though and keep my ascent going.  

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2 hours ago, clevited said:

 

What happened to you?? I have been on an upward trajectory for years lol.  Age is just a number (injury's however, those stupid things are real and suck!)

 

Edit: Ope nvm, saw your other post.  You too know the suckiness that are injury's.  I am hoping I will recover from mine though and keep my ascent going.  

Lol. Good question.  I laid tile in a glassed in porch for my wife all thanksgiving break.  And then this morning took bush hog blades off my father in laws tractor to sharpen them and put them back on so he could cut tommorow. Then I went to my actual job.  Everyone else I know played golf 3 times last week.  
 

I’m the only able aged male in my family , outside my 14 year old boy.  I think there’s a term or two for it that I can’t post here 😅.   it is what it is.  I had some alone time this evening , and hit some drivers…. Ramped up to 178 ballspeed with control.  So I’m generally putt putting around at 5/8ths speed most of the time due to fatigue.    Plenty of speed in there. I just use it to survive.  

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6 hours ago, Chunkitgood said:

So, a scratch golfer has an average drive of about 250 yards, swing speed probably less than 100, with 150 smash factor ball speed less than 150.

 

Are all you guys pluses?


Averages are one thing, but I’ve known and come across lots of golfers with 160+ ball speed who will never touch scratch. I play with one every weekend. My younger brother is another and he’s 155 pounds soaking wet.
 

I’m a +1 at the moment. 

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10 hours ago, Chunkitgood said:

So, a scratch golfer has an average drive of about 250 yards, swing speed probably less than 100, with 150 smash factor ball speed less than 150.

 

Are all you guys pluses?


Judging someone's skill based based on speed has been pretty out of date basically since the first generation of golfers after Tiger broke out. Chicks dig the long ball and there are plenty of baseball player/golfer crossovers. Lots of long balls without control or touch out there. 

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Judging someone's skill based based on speed has been pretty out of date basically since the first generation of golfers after Tiger broke out. Chicks dig the long ball and there are plenty of baseball player/golfer crossovers. Lots of long balls without control or touch out there. 

 

This.  I have long thought that most all healthy bodied golfers have a whole lot more in the tank athletically speaking than they think.  They just have to seek to unlock it with some technique improvements and speed training.  I have seen in the past decade, swing speeds in the 110+ become increasingly more common.  I think that once the knowledge that anyone can get a lot faster got out, (when once the mantra was that you have what you have and can't really improve, as well the swing nice and easy mantra), more and more people starting unlocking it because they saw it was possible.  Doesn't mean they got a lot better at golf though.  They just obtained one potential piece of the overall golf puzzle which is above average speed.  Some people also just enjoy hitting the crap out of a golf ball even if they can't reliably control it.

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8 hours ago, Valtiel said:


Judging someone's skill based based on speed has been pretty out of date basically since the first generation of golfers after Tiger broke out. Chicks dig the long ball and there are plenty of baseball player/golfer crossovers. Lots of long balls without control or touch out there. 


Also my sport growing up- hockey players. Anyone that’s been taking slap shots since he was 5 can probably swing a golf club with some speed. 

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44 yrs 

169.0mph

 

The BHAG is to get to a playing speed of 180mph.   

 

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I think speed is just a goal for us like anything else.  We're probably all chasing numbers in some way:

X score

X handicap

X body weight

X weight or reps on a lift

X # of steps per day

X $$

X mph....

It's fun, engages the mind and body.  Maybe there are numbers for health reasons.  Or just it seems cool to hit a number.  It doesn't have to matter for anything else, but its still a goal.

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On 11/22/2022 at 10:31 AM, phizzy30 said:

Bench press is the least important to be strong in for golf/speed.  The most important are squat and deads.  From many years of experience myself and with clients, I've found that if you can bench 150, squat and dead 225, you're g2g.  It's actually more important to get better at moving more weight proficiently for Olympic lifts IMO since they incorporate both speed and power. 

Are you a trainer?

 

What clubhead speed do your clients reach with those numbers?

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50 minutes ago, acekun said:

Are you a trainer?

 

What clubhead speed do your clients reach with those numbers?

 

I agree with phizzy as my workout routine focuses on the lower body and I do bodyweight power cleans and front squats. Also, I've quit doing barbell bench press because of the limited shoulder and chest flexibility that it causes, now i limit myself to 2 sets of dumbbell presses once a week. I used to bench twice my weight. Also, I don't think I've heard of any pro benching more than their bodyweight. Johnny Miller also said he hurt his swing by doing bench press. 


 

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"Shirtsleeve" swing technique:

1. Setup: Elbows bent forearms pressed together against shaft slightly forward of center with "Hogan" "active/flexed" leg tension left foot turned out slightly and the right leg slightly farther to the right - weight mostly on balls of feet butt of left hands sits on the top of the grip with very light grip.

2. Swing - W/o disturbing weight distribution of legs and feet lower hands while doing a forward press "swing trigger" then the left upper arm takes over on the backswing, it needs to go out in front of the body then back in front of the chest as the hands trace down initially then up to over the right shoulder "Torres". The goal is to not disturb the pressure of the feet during the initial takeaway.

 

Notes:

1. Only swing thought after swing trigger - extend left arm at shirt sleeve when reaching left hand over right shoulder "Shirtsleeve technique".

2. The upper left arm move "Shirtsleeve technique" can be practiced independently without a club, sitting down for instance

3. The correct feet tension can be felt by doing very short hops on the balls of the feet then holding the same feeling of pressure on the front of the feet and then taking three practice swings with the grip very loose in order to not disturb the same pressure on the feet and on the 3rd swing actively do the "Shirtsleeve" move. From there the swing should be done within a matter of seconds to not lose the feel of the legs resisting, this way this is not a learned technique as much as it is a setup technique.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, acekun said:

Are you a trainer?

 

What clubhead speed do your clients reach with those numbers?

Yes.  155-180+ ball speed.  Most of my golf clients are regular people but I have a buddy on the Mackenzie Tour and another long time friend that's a + cap and neither one of them are extremely strong.  They have no power leaks in their swing though and are very flexible. 

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5’9

158

35

172

 

A year ago I was around 105 with the driver, though I had been much faster in the past.  I attribute around 3mph to strength gains and about 7 mph to speed training, though certainly increased strength and flexibility has facilitated those gains.

 

The entire year has been a lot of simple gym work; squat, dead lift, jumps, and core/back stuff. I ordered the Stack system the week Matt Fitzpatrick won the US Open and I’ve been shocked at how “easy” it’s been to put on speed - getting from 108 to 115 was mostly just a matter of doing the stack workouts consistently. It seems like I gain 1mph every 2-3 weeks, which I’m sure will stop at some point.

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      Erik Barnes testing an all-black Axis1 putter – 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Tony Finau's new driver shaft – 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Valspar Championship WITB Photos (Thanks to bvmagic)- Discussion & Links to Photos
      This weeks WITB Pics are from member bvmagic (Brian). Brian's first event for WRX was in 2008 at Bayhill while in college. Thanks so much bv.
       
      Please put your comments or question on this thread. Links to all the threads are below...
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Monday #1
      2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Monday #2
      2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Monday #3
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Matt (LFG) Every - WITB - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      Sahith Theegala - WITB - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Cameron putters (and new "LD" grip) - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      New Bettinardi MB & CB irons - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      Custom Bettinardi API putter cover - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      Custom Swag API covers - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      New Golf Pride Reverse Taper grips - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Cognizant Classic - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #1
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #2
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #3
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #4
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Brandt Snedeker - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Max Greyserman - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Eric Cole - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Carl Yuan - WITb - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Russell Henley - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Justin Sun - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Alex Noren - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Shane Lowry - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Taylor Montgomery - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Jake Knapp (KnappTime_ltd) - WITB - - 2024 Cognizant Classic
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Super Stoke Pistol Lock 1.0 & 2.0 grips - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      LA Golf new insert putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      New Garsen Quad Tour 15 grip - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      New Swag covers - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Jacob Bridgeman's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Bud Cauley's custom Cameron putters - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Ryo Hisatsune's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Chris Kirk - new black Callaway Apex CB irons and a few Odyssey putters - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Alejandro Tosti's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Genesis Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Monday #1
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Monday #2
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #1
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #2
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #3
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #4
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Rory McIlroy - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Sepp Straka - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Patrick Rodgers - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Brendon Todd - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Denny McCarthy - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Corey Conners - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Chase Johnson - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tommy Fleetwood - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Matt Fitzpatrick - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Si Woo Kim - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Viktor Hovland - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Wyndham Clark - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Cam Davis - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Nick Taylor - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Ben Baller WITB update (New putter, driver, hybrid and shafts) – 2024 Genesis Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Vortex Golf rangefinder - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      New Fujikura Ventus shaft - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods & TaylorMade "Sun Day Red" apparel launch event, product photos – 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods Sun Day Red golf shoes - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Aretera shafts - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      New Toulon putters - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods' new white "Sun Day Red" golf shoe prototypes – 2024 Genesis Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
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