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5 hours ago, LongShanks42069 said:

Looking at Getty images at the rsm Kis was playing the new ping driver and looks like Wilson irons

Yep confirmed. Assuming his contract is up and testing. Would be good pickup for the W. 

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Kiz was one of the holdouts on playing a Callaway golf ball.  He flat out refused and stayed in Titleist forever.  They have been pushing players to play their ball and the rumor mill is swirling with a requirement of the ball in all new contracts.  If he is that against the ball then moving on to a company that isn't pushing a ball or doesn't have one makes sense.

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Someone on here said he wanted a higher spin driver and was having trouble getting a Callaway in his bag he liked but he's playing an LST Ping?

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1 hour ago, webber said:

Someone on here said he wanted a higher spin driver and was having trouble getting a Callaway in his bag he liked but he's playing an LST Ping?


Despite the name and what some reviewers would have you believe, PING LST heads have never really been "low spin" when compared to the market at large. In fact his old staple the 2015/16 GBB is very similar CG and MOI wise as PING LST heads, with the Callaway arguably actually being lower spin potentially. I could see the G430 LST stacking up favorably to his gamer based on his specific needs. Something like the OG SIM on the other hand would be the low spin head that wouldn't make sense for him. 

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5 hours ago, webber said:

Someone on here said he wanted a higher spin driver and was having trouble getting a Callaway in his bag he liked but he's playing an LST Ping?

It was me that said that in another thread. Kiz just couldn’t find a new Callaway driver with the right spin for him.  He’s liked Ping drivers for some time.  He will have an 8 club deal with Wilson. 
 

Also making a swing coach change. 

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It would be interesting to know what sort of off-course activities would be required of a Wilson staffer compared to a Callaway staffer. My guess is that Wilson would ask for less of that stuff and that would probably suit a guy like Kisner. 

 

I'm thinking of all these social media videos we see from TM and Callaway featuring their tour staff. There are probably guys who enjoy being a part of that but I get the idea that Kisner would rather have the day off.  

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On 11/29/2022 at 1:23 PM, Dutch1008 said:

Wilson has a ball, and a really good one. If you're a player in need of more spin, the Wilson Staff ball is great. That said, I agree with your premise. Wilson would probably be ecstatic about locking up Kisner and knows they don't have the clout to include a ball mandate. 

 

I understand the push by manufacturers. Excluding the WRX club hoes, most people are only buying clubs every 3/5/10 year. Golf balls are the gift that keeps on giving, closest thing equipment companies get to recurring revenue. Plus considering the price delta between the major brands and the DTC companies, its high margin revenue too.  

Is there a single professional on a major tour that uses a Wilson ball?

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On 11/29/2022 at 11:05 AM, bcflyguy1 said:

Ventus TR Red

Looks like the Georgia Bulldog version with red bottom and black top.

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Ryan Palmer has talked about players being equipment free agents and that it can be better to just play exactly the equipment they want. Of course, they still will get free equipment and full service from the equipment manufacturers. However, I think having a top pro using your equipment with no contract is a win-win for equipment manufacturers. 

 

https://golf.com/news/ryan-palmer-equipment-contracts-not-worth-it/

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3 hours ago, Carson33 said:

Looks like the Georgia Bulldog version with red bottom and black top.

It’s a departure from what he’s used for a while, which was various versions of the Aldila green profile.

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2 hours ago, tacklingdummy said:

Ryan Palmer has talked about players being equipment free agents and that it can be better to just play exactly the equipment they want. Of course, they still will get free equipment and full service from the equipment manufacturers. However, I think having a top pro using your equipment with no contract is a win-win for equipment manufacturers. 

 

https://golf.com/news/ryan-palmer-equipment-contracts-not-worth-it/

When Fleetwood signed with TM he said he liked having a team dedicated to watching his numbers and clubs and he doesn't have to think about any of it. Sure a free agent could build their own team but maybe just easier to have TM do it.

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3 minutes ago, capking said:


Isn’t Callaway releasing a mini driver this year? Wonder who that is for? Annika?

 

Pretty sure it for a bunch of folks that want to play a mini driver.  If it's for Phil they're not going to make too much money for their efforts.

 

That and they suspended their contract with Phil?

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