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Shaft test: DG120X and S400; PX 6.5; Nippon 115X and 125X


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Hi everyone,

 

I had a chance to test these shafts, all on similar clubs, and figured I would share my results. PX was on a set of Titleist T100, 115x was on a Mizzy 223, the others were all on my Mizzy MP20 MMC (my daily driver irons)

 

Me: 45 y/o, 170lbs, fit (I walk 95% of my rounds), not sure of SS but driver carry in 80 degree plus conditions is 265-290, so probably 108-110. Been playing for 2.5 years again after a 30 year break from playing for a couple of years in junior high. My swing is moderate backswing, sometimes overly aggressive transition (with a bad pull-down move). Spin-wise, my 9-iron, struck well, will typically back up 1-3 feet on a stimp 12-14 green (our greens are in bad shape and basically a billiards table at this point). 9-iron carry is 145 at 75%, 150-160 at normal tempo, can get up to 165 if I really have to. 

 

DG120X: the shaft I have been most familiar with: I bought my clubs back when I started playing again (used but barely hit, from the BST of course). Impressions are that this is consistent club.  My irons are bent 2 degrees strong (former owner did this, I never bothered to have it fixed) and the flight is still very high. They release well and are not stiff at all. When I dial it down at 3/4 speed, I don't find them overly stiff: in fact, they really suit a smooth tempo, which isn't always the case when I go 90% at them. 

 

Nippon 115x: This feels close to the DG120X, but for whatever reason, I get a little lower ball flight, even with 2 degrees weaker bent clubs.  Back and forth between these 2, I noticed no performance difference. Nice and easy to hit a high fade on and release the club. I liked them and they were smooth.

 

Nippon 125x: This isn't a stout shaft: it might even be a touch softer than the 115x.  Beautiful ball flight, although a touch lower than my 120x.  I liked the release and the predictability of this shaft. It might be my new favorite, just being a touch heavier and less likely to get out of tempo.  I just hit this at a local empty park this morning with a 9-iron and making some very consistent swings in terms of distance and trajectory, especially given the fact that I am basically hitting out of a recently mowed grass field.

 

DG S400: great shaft when released properly, higher trajectory than other clubs, feels incredible.  A little soft though: I think this HSx1 might be a better fit. No monitor, but dispersion feels greater than the other shafts. Especially compared to the 125X this morning: that shaft, even with a less than perfect swing, basically kept me in "good miss" territory. The S400 has a bit more pop and I got some massive carries (170 yard 9-iron for example) when loaded properly, but that isn't what I am looking for in an iron shaft. I want directional consistency, distance consistency, and good spin that will hold our very fast greens. 

 

Project X 6.5: classic shaft, I really liked the 6.0 2 years ago.  But boy, the 6.5 is a different beast. I feel like I have to really put a great swing on the ball and it isn't tolerant of easy 75% swings.  I was hitting a lot of draws with it, probably due to not feeling the loading and overswinging. I did hit some good balls, but trajectory was low and I felt like I was borderline fighting the shaft at times.  It did hold up my big error of a quick transition however. As we all know, the 6.5 is more of a X+ or TX shaft than most.

 

I would love to see a chart of how all of these stack up against each other, if anyone has it.  

 

If I had to rate them:

1a) Nippon 125X

1b) DG120X

3) Nippon 115X

4) S400

5) PX 6.5 

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Just a quick update: I have really been working on "downward pressure" upon swing initiation (covering the ball with my torso) and with that approach, the PX 6.5 feels really solid.  I am getting a bit more powerful straight ball flight vs. the slight fade of the S400. Slightly lower trajectory but tons of spin. 

 

The PX 6.5 certainly doesn't work well with my typically wimpy arm and hands swing, but I am getting a really nice ball flight when I make a more core-centered swing. 

 

I suppose any shaft feels good when you are making better swings: not exactly breaking news there. Kind of like skiing on GS race skis: if you can't load and pressure them properly, then you are lacking technique. 

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Nothing quite like project X. Stays with you and doesn't give as much loading feel. Never be afraid to try a half flex less with PX. 6.0 is as stiff or stiffer than the other shafts you tested. I keep looking for something comparable to Project X and nothing has worked quite as well. Modus 115 is on my radar to try next.

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Appreciate this post.  Considering a switch from Modus 120X to the 125.  I gamed X100 (and S400 in my wedges) for years. 

 

Current gamers with Modus120 fell into my lap (i.e. I was not fit for them). I make them work, but the Modus 125W in my wedges feel so much better.

 

If 125X feels good to you, I should probably be looking at 125S, given your SS (and mine).

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Titleist TSi2 21*: Aldila Tour Blue 105TX

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Thank you for this. Been eager to find a comparison between DG120x and Modus 115x (my gamers). Pretty much what I wanted to hear. Is DG maybe just a touch livelier? 

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While its great you are trying shafts that feel good/bad and get you in the area, the next step to dial this in requires data IMHO. You can see things sure, but we now have the tech to really hone in on the launch conditions vs. some fellow down range shagging the balls from Hogan and figuring out how far it flew. 🙂 

 

I'm not a fitter but I really embrace the idea and data analysis to help with the feels of the process. 

 

Quick example of me: I went for an iron shaft fitting: same heads, trying to dial in things with a talented fitter. With the shafts I tried, one shaft was clearly more consistent delivering a more optimal launch in the data set which happened to be a DG shaft. 

 

Sounds to me like you need a session or two on a GC3/4 or TM (using RCT if indoors) with the DG120X and Nippon 125X 🙂

 

 

 

 

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