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Long story short- I’ve been in 7tx for the last couple years but consistently erratic off the tee.. scratch player (inconsistent due to ^). 
 

I am 123-125 club but was in a fit yesterday and got by far my most consistent results with a tsr2 at 8.25 and a 1k Black 6x??? A touch higher than I would like to see, but anyone have any experience going much lighter and softer? What’s with the super “tip-stiff” consistency blah blah narrative?

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Play what works.  As for "too soft", there are quite a few players on tour that can get it to 120 CHS and play 6X.  We can safely assume Tour Pros have smash factors pretty well at 1.50, so 180 BS divided by 1.5 gives us 120CHS.  Some players even creep into the mid 180s BS, suggesting higher speeds.  Rory plays a 6X in his driver, DJ has a 6X, just to name a few.  I am sure there are plenty of guys out there as well in the same boat.

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Guess it just comes down to the human dynamic. Everyone makes speed differently. I'm the same speed as you, I have a very deliberate swing with a smooth transition. I use a ventus black 6x untipped and it works just fine. Never felt the need for the 6tx, have thought about the ventus black tr in 6x but I already feel the "og" black is plenty for me. 

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2 hours ago, ak90 said:

Long story short- I’ve been in 7tx for the last couple years but consistently erratic off the tee.. scratch player (inconsistent due to ^). 
 

I am 123-125 club but was in a fit yesterday and got by far my most consistent results with a tsr2 at 8.25 and a 1k Black 6x??? A touch higher than I would like to see, but anyone have any experience going much lighter and softer? What’s with the super “tip-stiff” consistency blah blah narrative?

Did you get to try after market shafts? The 1K black is a stock option, correct? Just wondering if they only fit you into what they had. That being said, play what works, mess with lighter and softer depending on your timing. Nothing is universal in club fitting. 

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6X is not exactly un-WRX. A 10ish gram drop in weight and 1/2 a step down in flex, while not insignificant, is certainly not that drastic. It's not like you're going down all the way to a 5R or something. 

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I swing about 120 on the course and found the 1K black 6X that came in my TSR4 to be a bit loose feeling. I bet I’d like that shaft in TX, but I grabbed what was in stock at the PGA Superstore. 
 

Ventus black 6X tipped 1” is my go-to shaft. It seems to work alright for Rory. 

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2 hours ago, DFS PFD said:

Did you get to try after market shafts? The 1K black is a stock option, correct? Just wondering if they only fit you into what they had. That being said, play what works, mess with lighter and softer depending on your timing. Nothing is universal in club fitting. 

I did, tried the ventus stuff, GD, mca, tpt… was really shocked at the consistency of the softer profile. Going back to confirm findings. Good points mentioning Rory and DJ in this thread. Thanks for your input

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I just now an starting to test “softer” and not uber low/low shafts I always have.  While I have mid to upper 120’s stock on course speed, I have a very smoother smooth transition with progressive speed. I have always played 75-80 low/low tipped 1.5-2”.

 

Since joining a private club this year I’ve played a lot more golf than usual and have noticed my tendencies.  I have demo’d a couple 65 and 75 stiff shafts in my heads a couple rounds and found I can smooth them out there consistently and accurately and don’t lose much distance at all. My problem is that when I have a super stiff shaft I try harder to launch it and get quick and pull the handle. Not ideal.  So I have a 6tx GT arriving today as my first “softer” experiment. 

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I prefer TX over X.  That's because it's usually a little heavier and CPM's out a little higher.  A little more stable/anti-left for me which is what I need.  If I do go with X then I will tip it a little more than TX. 

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1 hour ago, Rosco1216 said:

I just now an starting to test “softer” and not uber low/low shafts I always have.  While I have mid to upper 120’s stock on course speed, I have a very smoother smooth transition with progressive speed. I have always played 75-80 low/low tipped 1.5-2”.

 

Since joining a private club this year I’ve played a lot more golf than usual and have noticed my tendencies.  I have demo’d a couple 65 and 75 stiff shafts in my heads a couple rounds and found I can smooth them out there consistently and accurately and don’t lose much distance at all. My problem is that when I have a super stiff shaft I try harder to launch it and get quick and pull the handle. Not ideal.  So I have a 6tx GT arriving today as my first “softer” experiment. 

This sums up my “feels” as well… I’ve rotated through diff heavy/stiff/low profiles due to feeling like I need to work hard at the top. Wrecks my tempo and leads (I am theorizing) to more big misses.

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I'm not at your speed (CHS is 104-108 mph) but I have been toying with stiff, regular and now senior flex shafts. I am currently testing a Grafalloy Pro Launch Blue that is 45g and a senior flex. My other gamer is a 60g regular shaft with 6.0 of torque that hits the ball beautifully. All the Hzrdus shafts, for me, felt terrible but I think I just prefer a softer shaft, especially in the mid and tip sections. 

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It really depends on the likes of the player. I prefer a tight feeling shaft and I am at 110-112. I play 60-65 TX in my 46" drivers and 70 TX in my 44.75" drivers. I like the total weight and balance to be just the way I like it. So I always experiment to get the feel right. I've had players with higher SS tell me my clubs feel boardy to them! It all depends on what you like. But one thing is for sure, when you get it the way you like it..... it's magical!! You start using words like unicorn, swings itself, automatic, etc.

 

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9 hours ago, ak90 said:

Long story short- I’ve been in 7tx for the last couple years but consistently erratic off the tee.. scratch player (inconsistent due to ^). 
 

I am 123-125 club but was in a fit yesterday and got by far my most consistent results with a tsr2 at 8.25 and a 1k Black 6x??? A touch higher than I would like to see, but anyone have any experience going much lighter and softer? What’s with the super “tip-stiff” consistency blah blah narrative?


There is nothing much lighter or softer about that shaft. The 1k Black 65x (not 6x) is a 68g shaft uncut and is a stout profile. If you wanted something that launched a touch lower then you could try the 65TX, but it's not like you just threw an Autoflex in there or something. 

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27 minutes ago, Valtiel said:


There is nothing much lighter or softer about that shaft. The 1k Black 65x (not 6x) is a 68g shaft uncut and is a stout profile. If you wanted something that launched a touch lower then you could try the 65TX, but it's not like you just threw an Autoflex in there or something. 

Agree. I have both 1k black and only briefly tested the 65TX but the 6x is still stout. At this moment I prefer the 6x over the TX since the numbers were better but more testing has to be done since it was a small sample size. The black 6x will still be a solid and stout option.

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