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 Well, I started with the stock 5R fw in my SIM2Max 3hl and hated it, returned for the same w/ 6s fw, still hated it, just a little less.

I thought it sucked, for me. 

Loose, high hooks and inconsistent results with both.

Just put an Aldila NV 75r in it and it's night and day. new flight in slightly lower and much straighter, with slight draw. Can fade it if needed.

I have tried the Velocore version in 6s and it was much tighter feeling, but not $350 better.

I'll stick with my NV for now.

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not expecting much positive (if any) feedback, but I've played stock TM Fuji (blue 6S) in my 3w, and a HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 70 6.0 in my driver since August. I got "over-fit" based on strength/ SS of my 20's I'm not confident will soon be back. I know the HZRDUS has to go... too heavy and can't kick it, so I am considering the same Fuji in my driver. New dad and grad student, Velocore not in my near term future. But am also considering a different HZRDUS profile/ weight. Will be following for any feedback... 

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What I noticed was the the non-Velocore version spun more and was dispersion was significantly worst than the Velocore version.  Then again, my ss is faster than your average bear.  Velocore versions also feel different than non-Velocore IMO. 

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Non-Velocore is fine. It gets a really bad wrap here because a lot of us play (or have at least hit) the Velocore and they are two totally different beasts. Like others have mentioned, it's not even close to the same shaft, but that doesn't mean it's inherently bad. If it was just named something different I think a lot of people would soften their stance on it. I get why Fuji did it, they're not targeting us with it, but I don't have to like it. 

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When TXG tested both there wasn’t much in them. Velo was a little tighter but I’d don’t recall it being anything crazy over the oem version. 
 

I had the velo red in a Cally fusion driver and the made for in a Tour Edge driver and hit the Tour edge better. Ymmv 

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5 hours ago, tleader said:

No different than any other “stock” OEM shaft. It either fits you or it doesn’t. 
 

It is disappointing that the only cosmetic difference between the 2 is the velocore label. Really 2 entirely different shafts, masquerading as 1 to the uninformed consumer. 

 That's the TM way... Has been for a long time.

 Callaway has some that are the same way. 

 Seem's Fujikura is the mfg for the  "made for" sector, Although I hear Ping is sourcing from UST these days.

 

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2 hours ago, BCC1898 said:

A lot of differing opinions...thanks everyone!


that’s the beauty of it. It could fit you perfectly, or it could be junk for your swing. Nothing inherently wrong with it, but a lot of people criticize given the minimal cosmetic differentiation for velocore/without velocore. 
 

Harkens back to when everyone was comparing the MSI value on their Rogue shafts.  

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On 11/30/2022 at 1:14 PM, BCC1898 said:

Any thougths or experience with this shaft?  What are the differences?

The Blue in my Sim2 is by far the best shaft i've ever used.

Driver:  Taylor Made SIM 2 Max D w Ventus Blue 5 Shaft tipped 1 inch

Fairway Woods: 2014 Adams Tight Lies 14* 3 Wood w Kuro Kage 65g Shaft tipped 1 inch

                           2015 Adams Tight Lies 22* 7 Wood w Kuro Kage 65g Shaft tipped 1 inch

Hybrid:  2015 Adams Tight Lies 22* Hybrid w Kuro Kage 65gHY-R shaft

Irons/Wedges:  2014 Taylor Made Tour Preferred MC irons /   2014 Taylor Made Tour Preferred 52,56(Tour grind), 58(ATV grind)                   
Shafts:  Matrix Ozik Program F15 85S Graphite Shafts 4i - 58*

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What is different physically-

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“Velocore” is Fuji’s indication that they are using a high tensile modulus material. The image above is Toray Carbon’s model line. The MJ series is high-modulus. The advantage of a high modulus material is that it maintains strength (and therefore its form) under stress.

What that means for a golf shaft is that the more deflection that occurs, and the more aggressive the initial acceleration, the more accurately the shaft will remain aligned with the intended path, and the more the head will feel “connected” through the swing for a given amount of deflection.


The downside of this type of material is also shown, which is that this type of material is significantly weaker than a high tensile-strength model. The higher modulus is typically attained through heat treating, which makes it more brittle. It may be that the higher perceived breakage level of this type of material is real.


An entry-level shaft typically has a material cost in the $teens. A higher quality model with 800-1000 level carbon, in the $20’s. The high-mod material in the Venus is used over the entire shaft length, and likely raises the cost to around $40. Other brands may only use the more expensive material in the tip, making the cost increase close to negligible.

 

The models I use are non-Velocore. I have demo’ed these clubs with both. The repeatable difference is that the non-Velo models spin 300-400 rpms more for an indicated flex. Moving to a higher in the non-Velo model produces a similar spin level, e.g. non-Velo S is similar to Velo R. 

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