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I've always been a traditionalist with irons, still gaming 2-4 irons.  But the desire to get back into competitive state am events and possibly usga qualifiers has me wanting to ensure the most success between 200-240 yard shots.  What is the community opinions on putting a couple hybrids in the bag versus keeping long irons?

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I had no issues replacing 3/4 irons with hybrids...only way to know if would work for you is to do some range testing. 

Hybrids way easier to hit and more forgiving, at least for me.

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I have a buddy who is a scratch golfer and he plays 4 hybrids, 3 through 6.   

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I took my 3 iron out of the bag and put a 7wood in.  Already had a hybrid in.  Wish I would have done it years ago.  Never thought it was for me, because I have good speed and a fairly consistent strike with long irons.  But, I'm an idiot.  Few people are going to strike a 3 iron as well as a 7 wood or hybrid.  I love hitting a 7 wood.  Makes hitting that 230 shot much less stressful for me.  Hybrids and 7 woods get a big thumbs up from me.

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You'd think that's a question only you can answer.

 

If you don't swing fast, it can be awful hard to be consistent with long irons.  That's why a lot of low cappers are using hybrids/woods.  Some guys still prefer a 2/3/4 iron because their swing allows them to carry them consistently enough.

 

Really up to you.

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I went down this road many years ago, and still want to go back. I'm a huge iron preference guy, but for me at 3 iron I need to swing very well to make it perform right. I was fitted extensively and when I game it, it just doesn't cut it. Hybrid will take a bit to get used to but the performance is worth it. It simply will help flight the ball so much easier.

A basic way I think of this is, its easier for me to flight the ball down then it is to hit it really high. I have no issue flighting a hybrid, so it really makes the decision easy.

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Years back I played in various regional and a few local mini events (2 handi) using 17'/18' 2 iron and regular 3i-PW, 15' 3wd and Driver.  Never had a hybrid, 5 or 7wd in the bag.  People say hybrids are needed to stop the ball on long shots, only I never bought into that.  To me, it's about solid ball striking.

 

I am currently playing to 4+.  When I strike the ball, I naturally strike with a lot of spin, and flight the ball as needed; prefer to bring the ball in med-low and rely on spin to stop the ball.  Last weekend, 22'-4i stopped nicely on a few greens that were receptive.  It doesn't matter what club you use, if the greens are not receptive, the ball isn't going to stop even with hybrid; that's when landing short or on the green front and allow the ball to release back to the pin.

 

I frequently face a 220yd Par 3, kinda uphill; from any tee it's essentially full carry over water and green fronting slop that feeds back into the pond.  Usually around 190 to apron.  When pin is in the back my 2i stops the ball on the green every time, when pin is in the middle, I now use 4 iron, and I am 70+ on the aging scale. 🙂  Not sure how long I can keep it up, but.... that's One man's opinion that isn't giving up.

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Do you base your bag off of perception or off of what works? The goal of every single club in the bag except driver is to go a fixed distance and them settle quickly. Low lofted irons that fly low and run out unpredictably are not conducive to scoring, which is where hybrids and fairways come into play

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For two years I have volunteered at the Ascension Charity Classic, a Champions Tour event. (Players age 50 and over). A third of the field plays 3H + 4H in bag.

 

Complaint that hybrids miss left: I suspect you square the clubface well. If so, make sure you get a hybrid with a neutral face. Strong swingers hitting hybrids with noticeable offset may end up to the left. Of course, pay attention to shaft. Some players get a steel in their hybrid (... just not me!)

 

In my last bag mix, I carried a 4i (which was reshafted in graphite) and a 4H. With MAXs, I stop at 5i, which flies nearly as long as old 4i.

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2 hours ago, BURKMI19 said:

I've always been a traditionalist with irons, still gaming 2-4 irons.  But the desire to get back into competitive state am events and possibly usga qualifiers has me wanting to ensure the most success between 200-240 yard shots.  What is the community opinions on putting a couple hybrids in the bag versus keeping long irons?

The only thing that matters is If they help you play better golf. There’s no room for ego in the box on a scorecard. 40% of PGA Tour players have a hybrid in the bag. There’s a reason for that. 

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So our opinion will dictate if you play hybrids because? If you aren’t consistent enough hitting long irons those yardages I would definitely consider adding a hybrid or a 5 wood in the bag. That is a no brainer. Worse thing is to have a situation where you need that shot and you have any doubt in what your club can do. 

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Lots of fun options.  I currently game an apex UW, which is basically a hybrid, and then go to a 22 degree sim DHY which is also very hybrid like.  Those DHY clubs are stupid easy to hit.  I’ve also got a Cobra forged tec hybrid that isn’t currently in the bag but is great because it basically doesn’t go left.  Try to experiment with hybrids, DHY style clubs and some more game improvement style irons in the 3/4 slot and see what fits your game.  

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On 1/24/2023 at 2:34 PM, BURKMI19 said:

I've always been a traditionalist with irons, still gaming 2-4 irons.  But the desire to get back into competitive state am events and possibly usga qualifiers has me wanting to ensure the most success between 200-240 yard shots.  What is the community opinions on putting a couple hybrids in the bag versus keeping long irons?

Have you done any stat-keeping with strokes gained to help direct your assessment of your game in this area?  Also, at the non-PGA tour level, you really are just trying to get down in 4 or less from these yardages.  Down in 2 is rarer than hen's teeth, and 3 is a really, really good score.  4 isn't the end of the world, unless is is every single time.  Honestly, avoiding 5 is the main goal.  

 

So with that in mind, do you need a different club to allow you to avoid 5's first and foremost, and then appreciably affect your ratio of 4's to 3's? 

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13 minutes ago, animalgolfs said:

Low single & I'm on to 6h and 7h in the bag. Dispersion 7h v 6i is a real shocker

Same.  Still playing to a 4 (although it's going in the wrong direction) and I have hybrids down to 30° available when the course requires.  Nothing wrong with playing what makes the game more fun.

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I love to practice with my 4 iron, but when push comes to shove I bag the 4H.  I simply hit more greens with it. 

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Putting a 20 and 23 degree hybrid in the bag is like letting me carry 16 clubs. Where the shot from rough was a non starter with the 3/4 iron it suddenly becomes very easy. 
 

Pick up a pair of Adams Pro or Pro Mini from the bay for peanuts and have an experiment. Worse case you’ll be $100 out of pocket before you sell them on. 

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never been a fan of hybrids (driving irons for me) but I bought a Cobra King Tec 2H a few months ago and it's the first hybrid I have been able to get along with - all the rest have been push/slice machines.  I bought it because it has adjustable weights in the sole and I can set up a draw bias.  I can hit it all over the face and get a decent result and anything flushed out of the middle goes for miles.

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