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I have used DG x100 or Rifle 6.5 shafts for twenty years now.  But I'm legitimately curious about trying S300 or Rifle 5.5 in my irons / wedges.  I don't have an aggressive tempo but do generate the speed which merits x-stiff shafts.  I am curious though who has experience with such an experiment, intentionally going more flexible in iron shafts?

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Well, I just started that...I demoed a 7 iron in a True Temper DG R300 to see if it performed much differently than my KBS Tour 120 Stiff. I swing a 7 iron (per Trackman) at 89 mph and a driver (which I have a senior flex Grafalloy ProLaunch Blue haha, true story) which I swing around 107-110 mph. It isn't apples to apples since the loft on the demo 7 iron is 30* and my current 7 iron is 34* but here are the differences I have observed:

 

Height is up slightly with the regular shafts
Curve is down slightly

Land angle is better

Spin rate is fairly consistent

 

All that said, I liked the feel enough that I now have my 5 and 6 irons coming with "regular" R300 shafts. 

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I went with the Modus 105's in R flex in my most recent set of irons.

 

They are really easy to swing - I have to say that. Best clubs in the bag.

 

Can't say they've been any worse as far as dispersion is concerned. It's not like I'm missing everything to the left. 

 

Having said this, I play a variety of weights and flexes throughout my bag - from X to R and nothing - I mean absolutely nothing - matches.

 

It's all be cobbled together through steals over the internet and stuff I get for free.

 

As I always say, somehow I make it work.

Cleveland Launcher HB 10.5* - Stock Miyazaki C. Kua 50 Stiff
Callaway Diablo Octane Tour 13* - Aldila NV 75 Stiff
or
Callaway Diablo Edge Tour 15* - Accra Dymatch M5 75
Mizuno F-50 18* - Stock Stiff
or
Callaway Diablo Edge Tour Hybrid 21* - Aldila NV 85 Stiff
Callaway RAZR Tour Hybrid 24* - Stock XStiff
5 - PW Cleveland CG7 Tour Black Pearl - DGSL S300
Cleveland 588 RTX Rotex 2.0 50* DG Wedge
Cleveland 588 RTX Rotex 2.0 54* DG Wedge
Callaway X-Series JAWS Slate CC 58* Stock Wedge
Odyssey White Ice #7 - Golf Pride Oversize

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I'm actually thinking of going with S400's when I order my new ZX5's.

 

Coming from MMT 125TX and PX 6.5 for years.  

 

6 iron swing is around the 96-97mph range.

TM Stealth2 Plus+ 8* | Ventus Black 6X

Mizuno ST-Z 15*| Diamana D+ White 7 X 

TM P790 2 IRON UDI | HZRDUS SMOKE 100 6.5

SRIXON ZX7 3-PW | Mitsubishi MMT 125 TX

Cleveland Zipcore Tour Rack 

50* (Mid) Rounded Edge | Mitsubishi MMT Scoring Wedge 125 TX

54* (Full) S Grind | Mitsubishi MMT Scoring Wedge 125 TX

Odyssey White Hot Pro 7 34"

TM TP5X

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I play my irons super soft compared to my other clubs, always have.  I don't have dispersion issues or anything like that.  I just enjoy they way they feel 

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3 Wood: Taylor Made 300 Mini Driver 11.5º w/ Ventus TR Red 8-X

Hybrids: Callaway Super Hybrid 17º w/ Tensei Orange

3 Iron: Srixon U85 w/ UST Recoil 95

Irons (6-43º): Titleist T400 w/ DG AMT Red

Wedges: 48º Vokey SM6, 54º Vokey SM8 Black, 60º Hand Ground Tour Issue Vokey

Putter: Titleist Scotty Cameron Newport Masterful Tourtype SSS CT A048277

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2 hours ago, BURKMI19 said:

I have used DG x100 or Rifle 6.5 shafts for twenty years now.  But I'm legitimately curious about trying S300 or Rifle 5.5 in my irons / wedges.  I don't have an aggressive tempo but do generate the speed which merits x-stiff shafts.  I am curious though who has experience with such an experiment, intentionally going more flexible in iron shafts?

 

Finding a good shaft fit is more about tempo and timing than it is speed.  Although speed does factor into it.  First place to start is to try an S300, since they are easy to find.

 

J.B Holmes who was one of the fastest players on tour, used Dynamic Gold 'S' flex in his irons.

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I'm not nearly as big of a hitter or fast swinger but numbers wise I've always fit into stiff flex shafts.  I found that in the real world I prefer the feel of regular flex so that 1. it's not so heavy towards the end of a round, 2. I get a little higher ball flight and 3. I like the loading/unloading feel of a shaft vs. something that's really stiff.  I'd say play what gives you best results in the real world.

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I swing about 98-100 (at my best warmed up) with the driver (used to be 100-104), and have in recent years been more comfortable in a 50 Gram Regular but high quality shaft (HZRDUS Silver 50 and Black 60 both 5.5 in Driver and woods, or Ventus Velocore 50 / 60 in my driver/woods). Sooooo.....with irons, for years, played PX 5.0 SS1X or PX 5.5 SS2X, but as those became too much work/a touch to heavy, I moved to PX LZ 5.5 SS1X (2X was a disaster, except for the wedges 54 and 58, which I love!). For me, the PX LZ is such a great shaft, and the 5.5 is no slouch, and I have to Soft Step it 1X to make it work for me on launch, spin, and ease of use. The 5.0's are ok, but a touch light. Had various stints with Modus 105 R, too soft, S too stiff, should have tried it Soft-Stepped (which I do have in a wedge and love it), and Aerotech i95 R, also a great shaft, that mimics the Dynamic Gold, but in a 95 gram constant weight package. For me though, 115 grams, when I am warm, and aggressive, is the current sweet spot for me. Point is to also consider weight, as much as you do flex.

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7 hours ago, BURKMI19 said:

I have used DG x100 or Rifle 6.5 shafts for twenty years now.  But I'm legitimately curious about trying S300 or Rifle 5.5 in my irons / wedges.  I don't have an aggressive tempo but do generate the speed which merits x-stiff shafts.  I am curious though who has experience with such an experiment, intentionally going more flexible in iron shafts?

I say try it.
 

I am high nineties SS with my 7 iron but have a long swing with speed and use PX LZ 6.0. I have hit my irons great since moving from x100, PX 7.0 and 6.5 over the years. 

 

I would have never guessed the shaft would fit me on paper but the way I release and the slighter lower weight works for me. 

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I got fit into Nippon Zelos 7 shafts in regular flex for my irons, and my irons have been so much more fun to swing. I think the overall weight is a big thing too. 

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3w- Honma TW-XP1 

17° Adams XTD Ti super hybrid

4h-5h- Tour Edge Exotics ex9

6-AW- Cleveland Launcher XL Nippon Zelos 7

56°- Cleveland CBX Zipcore

60°- Lazrus

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