Private club membership - from junior to regular member

[daegyu]

Like the title says, I'm preparing for a jump from junior membership to full equity membership. Things changed from when I initially joined. At time of application, I was told the junior membership initiation could possibly be applied  to regular membership initiation. Due to max capacity, I've been told that that is no longer the case. Also, regular membership initiation needs to be purchased from an existing member. Half of sale goes to the club so asking price is 2-3x what it would cost to purchase a membership directly from the club (if membership wasn't at capacity). Pricing was relatively affordable for me compared to what it cost to play public courses in my area 1-2 times per week. That no longer seems to be the case. The only thing that has me considering full membership is having two kids who could possibly take advantage of the club when they get older.

 

My question to you all: how does your club handle transitions from junior member to regular member? How many of you made the switch yourselves or did you resign your membership?

[Abh159]

Every club is going to be different, but I can give you an example of how my club works (non-equity club).

 

Jr membership is available under the age of 35. Initiation fee can be paid in full or in 1/4 amounts over the course of 4 years. As long as the full initiation is paid before turning 35 there is no additional fee to move to a "regular" membership. If the full fee isn't paid you are responsible for the remaining balance upon turning 35. Monthly dues increase about 30% going from a Jr to a regular member.

 

We have 300 membership spots available. First priority will always be for regular memberships so the amount of Jr memberships they offer varies based on the numbers. When I joined several years back we had approximately 90 Jr members. Now that number is closer to 50, and the waitlist for both is miles long.

 

FWIW... this part is really bothersome to me "At time of application, I was told the junior membership initiation could possibly be applied  to regular membership initiation. Due to max capacity, I've been told that that is no longer the case." I've never heard of any club (member owned or otherwise) that didn't apply the Jr fee to the full member fee. That really sucks...

[knock it close]

12 minutes ago, daegyu said:

Like the title says, I'm preparing for a jump from junior membership to full equity membership. Things changed from when I initially joined. At time of application, I was told the junior membership initiation could possibly be applied  to regular membership initiation. Due to max capacity, I've been told that that is no longer the case. Also, regular membership initiation needs to be purchased from an existing member. Half of sale goes to the club so asking price is 2-3x what it would cost to purchase a membership directly from the club (if membership wasn't at capacity). Pricing was relatively affordable for me compared to what it cost to play public courses in my area 1-2 times per week. That no longer seems to be the case. The only thing that has me considering full membership is having two kids who could possibly take advantage of the club when they get older.

 

My question to you all: how does your club handle transitions from junior member to regular member? How many of you made the switch yourselves or did you resign your membership?

I'm in the "young professional" program at my club, on an 11 year payment plan for the initiation. Dues range is 19-30 junior, 30-44 intermediate, 45+ full rate. Fairly new program at the club I believe and its not available to anyone looking to join, need to have a full member family member at the club or multiple sponsors I believe.

 

I was a junior member at another club when I was going to school, past initiation could be applied to your transition to full status at age 30 I believe. I think there might have been a benefit for how many years you payed dues as well but I moved when I was like 22 so I don't really remember the exact specifics but I can try to check through some old bylaws and emails later.

 

Both top 50 courses in Canada

Edited January 31 by knock it close

[Bonneville85308]

Like was said above, this can vary all over the place depending on the club. At the clubs I've been involved with (equity clubs on the east coast, all memberships are purchased from the club for the same price set per category and not traded between departing member and new member), your initiation fee was set at what you paid when you joined as a junior member, and no additional initiation was due when you reached the conversion age. You just started paying the higher regular member dues. If the regular membership reached the cap, a junior reaching the conversion age could still convert and skip any wait list. The junior memberships were considered to have equity rights but no voting rights until converted to a regular membership. Interestingly these clubs had very few junior (under age 35 or 40) members...out of 200+ golf members I'd say less than 15 were in the junior category in each club, and probably 5 or fewer weren't legacies.

Edited February 2 by Bonneville85308

[Pepperturbo]

1 hour ago, daegyu said:

Like the title says, I'm preparing for a jump from junior membership to full equity membership. Things changed from when I initially joined. At time of application, I was told the junior membership initiation could possibly be applied  to regular membership initiation. Due to max capacity, I've been told that that is no longer the case. Also, regular membership initiation needs to be purchased from an existing member. Half of sale goes to the club so asking price is 2-3x what it would cost to purchase a membership directly from the club (if membership wasn't at capacity). Pricing was relatively affordable for me compared to what it cost to play public courses in my area 1-2 times per week. That no longer seems to be the case. The only thing that has me considering full membership is having two kids who could possibly take advantage of the club when they get older.

 

My question to you all: how does your club handle transitions from junior member to regular member? How many of you made the switch yourselves or did you resign your membership?

Transition process depends on the club's charter, and it changes depending on market and capacity.  There is NO standard.  Most clubs don't have separate Junior memberships, but have Junior Executive memberships for under 38-40 age group, typically. 

 

Both my clubs has junior sponsorship programs, but technically they are not membership categories.  It's just something club leadership and membership chose to do.  Typically, members chip in monthly to cover the costs of junior sponsorship.  Who qualifies depends on how club leadership structures the program, and it's usually not marketed publically.  Commonly, switching from junior executive to full voting equity or membership, is a costly jump (depending on the club) but less than buying a new full equality or non-voting membership in a benevolent dictator owned club.

 

Popular equality clubs that I am familiar with have charters that stipulate buying from the resale or exiting member market.  When that resale market is dried up, then buy directly from the club.  It's done to protect member initiation value and generate income for the club.  The resale process and 50% service cost is rather standard among equity clubs.

Edited January 31 by Pepperturbo

[daegyu]

In my particular case, the terms "junior" and "executive" member are interchangeable. 

 

It also sounds like, when supply exceeds demand, no additional initiation fee is due when converting to full membership. When demand exceeds supply, I suppose they don't mind having members resign their membership so they can sell membership for a higher price to someone on the waitlist than giving a discounted or prorated initiation fee to an existing junior member. I guess I might as well resign and hope to join at a later date when/if initiation fees decrease since there is no penalty for doing so other than moving to the bottom of the waitlist. One can only hope the Covid golf boom will level off over time...

[Pepperturbo]

13 minutes ago, daegyu said:

In my particular case, the terms "junior" and "executive" member are interchangeable. 

 

It also sounds like, when supply exceeds demand, no additional initiation fee is due when converting to full membership. When demand exceeds supply, I suppose they don't mind having members resign their membership so they can sell membership for a higher price to someone on the waitlist than giving a discounted or prorated initiation fee to an existing junior member. I guess I might as well resign and hope to join at a later date when/if initiation fees decrease since there is no penalty for doing so other than moving to the bottom of the waitlist. One can only hope the Covid golf boom will level off over time...

To an extent, yes.  At both the clubs where I held membership, I was a BOD member, and at one club also on Membership and Finance committees. 

 

Most well managed clubs don't relish when any member leaves the club, especially if the member was active in the club.  Some clubs have a charter rule that says, when a member puts his membership on the resale list, and leaves, he still pays dues until it's sold.  It's a commitment members knowingly understand when joining.  Also, well managed clubs don't have much member turnover, but have a waiting list.  Members tend to stay for years, make lifelong friends, especially if they own property on the course, as I did.  When we left one club to relocate, my initiation fee was left behind; figured it was a cost of golf and the club would resell it.

[david.c.w]

While situation sounds odd.  You should 100% read the bylaws regarding membership categories, as well as ask around to see if those bylaws have changed via a recent vote.   Very likely junior members did not get a vote if there was one

[T_Golf_23]

The reality is that clubs are doing some dicey stuff right now to try to take in extra cash… I really believe that these clubs are going to have to deal with a much more difficult environment going forward.

 

I just went through an issue around transitioning from a junior to regular member…. Ended up parting ways with the club. 
 

penny wise and pound foolish to treat younger members in such a way when they are necessary to sustain the longevity of the club. 
 

our club even modified the bylaws to excluded junior members from certain events….. 

Edited February 1 by T_Golf_23

[ChipDriver]

5 hours ago, daegyu said:

Like the title says, I'm preparing for a jump from junior membership to full equity membership. Things changed from when I initially joined. At time of application, I was told the junior membership initiation could possibly be applied  to regular membership initiation. Due to max capacity, I've been told that that is no longer the case. Also, regular membership initiation needs to be purchased from an existing member. Half of sale goes to the club so asking price is 2-3x what it would cost to purchase a membership directly from the club (if membership wasn't at capacity). Pricing was relatively affordable for me compared to what it cost to play public courses in my area 1-2 times per week. That no longer seems to be the case. The only thing that has me considering full membership is having two kids who could possibly take advantage of the club when they get older.

 

My question to you all: how does your club handle transitions from junior member to regular member? How many of you made the switch yourselves or did you resign your membership?

For clubs around here in DC:

 

Jr. Member = 30% of the THEN current Full Member price.   So if Full Member in 2020 was $X, then the Jr. Member would have paid "30%X".

5 years later, Full Member Price might be Z.   Then at some of the DC clubs the initiation as a transition to Full Member would be Z - "30%X", and your dues will increase to the then present Full member dues rate.  To be blunt - there is no "savings" or "smart way to do it".   Our DC clubs are all capitalists.  🙂

 

That's also assuming that there is a "space" to which you could transition.  For several of the clubs in our area there are waiting lists....and even if you're a transitioning Jr. member; or a Jr. Member who was a child of an existing Full member, the transition is NOT automatic.

 

There are many children who grew up at these clubs - who - when faced with transitioning - decide to quit.   They don't feel like waiting; and/or they realize that they don't use the club enough to spend a lot of money.

 

The country club business model is in peril IMO.  Many well established clubs will be ok I think, but by and large, the CC model relies upon members who live and work and will stay long term in the surrounding areas.  With today's workforce shift, and millenials shunning traditional values/assets like houses, and long term employment with a single employer - it threatens the country club business model.

 

Last thing - I would NOT think at all about whether your kids would like to stay at the club.   Again with the changes to our society - the likelihood of your kids staying home and working there for a long time is fairly remote IMO.  Join for yourself - and share it with your wife and kids.  If they like it later on - then buy the membership at that time.  Just my thoughts.  Good luck.

[daegyu]

24 minutes ago, ChipDriver said:

For clubs around here in DC:

 

Jr. Member = 30% of the THEN current Full Member price.   So if Full Member in 2020 was $X, then the Jr. Member would have paid "30%X".

5 years later, Full Member Price might be Z.   Then at some of the DC clubs the initiation as a transition to Full Member would be Z - "30%X", and your dues will increase to the then present Full member dues rate.  To be blunt - there is no "savings" or "smart way to do it".   Our DC clubs are all capitalists.  🙂

 

 

The overwhelming theme I'm getting from these responses is that most clubs will at least apply the initiation cost of junior membership when it's time to transition to full membership. Even with full membership currently costing 6x what I paid to join as a junior member, I think i'd lean towards making the jump. But it's a bitter pill to swallow to have to join once for $x,xxx and then pay an additional $xx,xxx just a few years later. The difference in cost savings of paying junior dues vs regular dues for a few years would have been negligible after factoring in the crazy initiation fee hikes over the past few years. Hindsight is 20/20 though I guess. 

[klebs01]

It’s interesting that clubs want the extra initiation or won’t let a junior stay active when they reach the age of a full member. The three clubs I’ve been at, all member owned, have one initiation at the time of joining, which could differ based on category or age. The only thing that changes with age is the dues. The whole point of the reduced dues for juniors is to get younger people in the door to be members for longer and improve the resiliency of the club. The idea of getting ales for an additional chunk of money, especially if not disclosed up front, or getting out on a wait list would probably have me walking. Seems like really bad business. 

[goduke7]

A lot of clubs have no path to membership for junior members (on their parents membership). Once they turn whatever age, they have to apply for membership. Local club has a waitlist with 1-3 members resigning annually... waitlist is 20 years or so. No exceptions. 

[ChipDriver]

7 hours ago, daegyu said:

 

The overwhelming theme I'm getting from these responses is that most clubs will at least apply the initiation cost of junior membership when it's time to transition to full membership. Even with full membership currently costing 6x what I paid to join as a junior member, I think i'd lean towards making the jump. But it's a bitter pill to swallow to have to join once for $x,xxx and then pay an additional $xx,xxx just a few years later. The difference in cost savings of paying junior dues vs regular dues for a few years would have been negligible after factoring in the crazy initiation fee hikes over the past few years. Hindsight is 20/20 though I guess. 

This is no difference than drug dealers and users.  No difference at all.  It's how lots of businesses in the US do things....deep discount or free to the kids....raise the price to adults.  Feast when there is too much demand and raise the price 6X... and famine when you have a bad batch of drugs.   

 

In the meantime though - you got to play CC golf for a discounted price for a bunch of years.  So that's cool.  It's disappointing that now that you're an "adult" that you still can't get it for cheap.  But that's the same as drug dealers and users; or Walmart and small towns.   Exactly the same.  🙂

[david.c.w]

What is confusing me about OP's situation is that he stated he wants equity membership.  Perhaps, I am wrong, but it seems there are fewer and fewer ture equity clubs, and those that exist are old and established.  My definition of equity is that you get money back when you leave.  I am part of a member-owned, non-equity club.  Our "intermediate" members have full privleges, but no vote and reduced dues.  Once they turn 36 they simply get a vote and pay full dues.  No additional initiation fee required.  

 

I am shocked that a "full equity" club is asking for more $$$.  

[StudentGolfer4]

Clubs I am familiar with all require members to pay an increased initiation fee when transitioning from junior membership to full. One place juniors paid 3k at initially and will have to pay another 9k before turning 40 to continue their membership. This can be done over time or a lump sum. 
 

The other course Junior initiation is 5k and before turning 35 they must pay 35k for membership. This number was agreed upon when they joined. If initiation goes up they still only pay the price it was when they signed the agreement. 

[knock it close]

11 hours ago, T_Golf_23 said:

penny wise and pound foolish to treat younger members in such a way when they are necessary to sustain the longevity of the club. 

Ya I feel like clubs magically forgot what was going on pre covid where many were trying anything to get younger blood into the club. Feels like they're playing with fire by ignoring the possible bust of the covid golfer bubble and the tightening of budgets with a looming recession. 

[daegyu]

6 hours ago, goduke7 said:

A lot of clubs have no path to membership for junior members (on their parents membership). Once they turn whatever age, they have to apply for membership. Local club has a waitlist with 1-3 members resigning annually... waitlist is 20 years or so. No exceptions. 

The difference is I'm not a junior member on someone else's membership. I'm a junior executive member (under 40 years of age) that applied for membership and paid an initiation fee. 

[daegyu]

6 hours ago, ChipDriver said:

This is no difference than drug dealers and users.  No difference at all.  It's how lots of businesses in the US do things....deep discount or free to the kids....raise the price to adults.  Feast when there is too much demand and raise the price 6X... and famine when you have a bad batch of drugs.   

 

In the meantime though - you got to play CC golf for a discounted price for a bunch of years.  So that's cool.  It's disappointing that now that you're an "adult" that you still can't get it for cheap.  But that's the same as drug dealers and users; or Walmart and small towns.   Exactly the same.  🙂

 

I guess "cheap" is relative. Junior executive rates are around 30% less than full member rates, which still comes out to around $700/mo. 

[david.c.w]

10 minutes ago, daegyu said:

 

I guess "cheap" is relative. Junior executive rates are around 30% less than full member rates, which still comes out to around $700/mo. 

It sounds like you are getting screwed.

 

FWIW, our junior members pay $25k, payable over 3 years, and a little less than your 30% off of normal dues.  This is anyone joining under 36.

 

 

[daegyu]

6 hours ago, david.c.w said:

What is confusing me about OP's situation is that he stated he wants equity membership.  Perhaps, I am wrong, but it seems there are fewer and fewer ture equity clubs, and those that exist are old and established.  My definition of equity is that you get money back when you leave.  I am part of a member-owned, non-equity club.  Our "intermediate" members have full privleges, but no vote and reduced dues.  Once they turn 36 they simply get a vote and pay full dues.  No additional initiation fee required.  

 

I am shocked that a "full equity" club is asking for more $$$.  

 

It's true you can get your money back when you leave, or possibly even more. But there's also the risk of losing a chunk of that if the economy swings the other way like we saw in the early 2010s when clubs were giving memberships away. I'd rather pay a lower initiation fee and be fine walking away from it if necessary than having to invest 100k and potentially making it all back and more down the road somewhere. 

[Krt22]

Not a Jr but a "young executive", non-equity club. When I joined one of the selling points was nothing other than a dues increase to the full amount when I turn 40 (initiation was half of a full member).

 

Now the club is trying to fleece us, trying to say that isn't the case, and we will owe the remainder of the initiation. Some other young guys worked out pre-emptive deals, basically converting to a full member well before 40 in exchange for not paying the remainder of the initiation (which works out to basically the same amount). There is absolutely nothing written in what I signed saying I would owe additional initiation once I turned 40, let alone how much that amount would be.  They are/were definitely trying to capitalize on the golf boom and squeeze as much $$ as they can.  I choose to sit on the fence and deal with it when that time comes. 

[Pepperturbo]

16 hours ago, T_Golf_23 said:

penny wise and pound foolish to treat younger members in such a way when they are necessary to sustain the longevity of the club. 
 

That statement makes the person more important, than what "future" actually means to the club.  Yep, there's some truth to it, but most juniors or executive members are not the club's future; if they only use the course and range and don't bother to make themselves socially and tournament known. 

 

Our membership committees used to visit with membership committees of other private clubs to discuss common club issues; membership was a large part of the discussion.  Most close in metropolitan clubs look for members to use the facilities and get involved in activities, get to know members; those people that don't, seldom stay long. 

 

Based on how someone approaches the club, and handles the interview process, membership could figure out early on who was likely to bring value to the club, or who would likely struggle.  Even when clubs offer guidance in adjusting, many people didn't want to adjust; they figured their money was enough.  People need to realize, a club's existence isn't based on his or her dues and or initiation fee.  The clubs existence is its culture and how it's run or who owns it.  Things change in clubs like they change in companies.  If people are not involved, they are surprised with change, and don't know what facilitated the change.

 

 

 

Edited February 1 by Pepperturbo

[david.c.w]

31 minutes ago, Pepperturbo said:

That statement makes the person more important, than what "future" actually means to the club.  Yep, there's some truth to it, but most juniors or executive members are not the club's future; if they only use the course and range and don't bother to make themselves socially and tournament known. 

 

 

With all due respect, I wholeheartedly disagree.  If people are buying yearly memberships or if this is ClubCorp, I agree.  However this is an equity membership with junior dues of $700/month.  This is not a "let's try it for a couple years" club.  I imagine OP has invested heavily in his membership.

 

Source:  Current BoG member, current Membership Chair, former intermediate member.  Club has 111 on golf and 50+ on social waitlist.  People don't leave unless they move or die.

 

Understand your club and board membership history, however the youth are what drive the club's future.

 

 

 

[T_Golf_23]

50 minutes ago, Pepperturbo said:

That statement makes the person more important, than what "future" actually means to the club.  Yep, there's some truth to it, but most juniors or executive members are not the club's future; if they only use the course and range and don't bother to make themselves socially and tournament known. 

 

Our membership committees used to visit with membership committees of other private clubs to discuss common club issues; membership was a large part of the discussion.  Most close in metropolitan clubs look for members to use the facilities and get involved in activities, get to know members; those people that don't, seldom stay long. 

 

Based on how someone approaches the club, and handles the interview process, membership could figure out early on who was likely to bring value to the club, or who would likely struggle.  Even when clubs offer guidance in adjusting, many people didn't want to adjust; they figured their money was enough.  People need to realize, a club's existence isn't based on his or her dues and or initiation fee.  The clubs existence is its culture and how it's run or who owns it.  Things change in clubs like they change in companies.  If people are not involved, they are surprised with change, and don't know what facilitated the change.

 

 

 

As a junior member I was at the club 5-6 days a week. Played golf with 4 - 5 different  regular groups of people. 2 of which included board members. 
 

my kids went to every holiday event and were are the pool every weekend day. 
 

my team placed 2nd for 2 consecutive

years in the team league.

 

i played in the governors cup. The club championship. 
 

In the winter we played golf in the simulators and had regular matches 2 days a week. 
 

I would hardly say I was not involved. 
 

 But the bylaw changes started shutting my family out of certain events as senior members were given 1st right. 
 

Then the dues increased at a pace that makes you question whether or not it is really worth it to continue …. 
 

to your statement, every individual will use the club in a way they see fit. If they are paying their dues… they should be held as important to the club. 
 

i still stand by that clubs have become too pompous and don’t recognize that this cycle will slow down…. It’s like any organization. You need balance among the age categories ensure a healthy future. 
 

when families are at the pool, it not the 50+ year olds that are spending boat loads of cash on ice cream and food for the kids at the snack bar….. it’s the young families…… 

[Pepperturbo]

31 minutes ago, david.c.w said:

 

With all due respect, I wholeheartedly disagree.  If people are buying yearly memberships or if this is ClubCorp, I agree.  However this is an equity membership with junior dues of $700/month.  This is not a "let's try it for a couple years" club.  I imagine OP has invested heavily in his membership.

 

Source:  Current BoG member, current Membership Chair, former intermediate member.  Club has 111 on golf and 50+ on social waitlist.  People don't leave unless they move or die.

 

Understand your club and board membership history, however the youth are what drive the club's future.

 

 

 

You're welcome to totally disagree, except I was rather explicit and qualifying. "Yep, there's some truth to it, but most juniors or executive members are not the club's future; if they only use the course and range and don't bother to make themselves socially and tournament known."   

 

With that small number of members, it sounds like your facility is golf course only, maybe small clubhouse, not a country club.  My buddy is a member of an equity course in NW like that, 125 members.

 

My clubs had lower monthly dues, $500 to accommodate junior, and a slightly higher $700, for executive members, neither paid the typical initiation fee nor had voting rights, their membership category was NOT equity, but the clubs were.  My dues were $1500 +/- per month, both equity clubs have over 450 members, in SOCA, and been around since the 70s. 

 

Typically, junior or executive level membership categories do NOT have voting rights, so not equity memberships. 

Where's your club located? 

Edited February 1 by Pepperturbo

[Pepperturbo]

12 minutes ago, T_Golf_23 said:

As a junior member I was at the club 5-6 days a week. Played golf with 4 - 5 different  regular groups of people. 2 of which included board members. 
 

my kids went to every holiday event and were are the pool every weekend day. 
 

my team placed 2nd for 2 consecutive

years in the team league.

 

i played in the governors cup. The club championship. 
 

In the winter we played golf in the simulators and had regular matches 2 days a week. 
 

I would hardly say I was not involved. 
 

 But the bylaw changes started shutting my family out of certain events as senior members were given 1st right. 
 

Then the dues increased at a pace that makes you question whether or not it is really worth it to continue …. 
 

to your statement, every individual will use the club in a way they see fit. If they are paying their dues… they should be held as important to the club. 
 

i still stand by that clubs have become too pompous and don’t recognize that this cycle will slow down…. It’s like any organization. You need balance among the age categories ensure a healthy future. 
 

when families are at the pool, it not the 50+ year olds that are spending boat loads of cash on ice cream and food for the kids at the snack bar….. it’s the young families…… 

I am not going to argue with anyone over this, and DID NOT example YOU or personalize it towards YOU.  You're welcome to what ever opinion you have. 

 

PS, the average old man like me spent 2k-5k a month at the club, not including annual fees assessed in Jan.  This isn't a pizzing match.  I was sharing over ten years of equity club leadership experience.

Edited February 1 by Pepperturbo

[david.c.w]

22 minutes ago, Pepperturbo said:

You're welcome to totally disagree, except I was rather explicit and qualifying. "Yep, there's some truth to it, but most juniors or executive members are not the club's future; if they only use the course and range and don't bother to make themselves socially and tournament known."

 

My clubs had lower monthly dues, $500 to accommodate junior, and a slightly higher $700, for executive members, neither paid the typical initiation fee nor had voting rights, their membership category was NOT equity, but the clubs were.  My dues were $1500 +/- per month, both equity clubs have over 450 members, in SOCA, and been around since the 70s. 

 

Typically, junior or executive level membership categories do NOT have voting rights, so not equity memberships. 

Where's your club located? 

 

Located in the Atlanta area.  Been around since 1969.  Non-equity, member owned.  Under 36 years old pays over $25k initiation.  You are going to get a lot of pushback on your bolded statement.  In my experience it is the opposite.  Younger members use the club 4x of older members.  This is also the experience of my peers at other clubs.  I am under 50 (barely).

 

To also clarify, we are a country club, not a golf club.  Golf, tennis, aquatics, wellness, dining.

 

Edited February 1 by david.c.w

[daegyu]

1 hour ago, Pepperturbo said:

That statement makes the person more important, than what "future" actually means to the club.  Yep, there's some truth to it, but most juniors or executive members are not the club's future; if they only use the course and range and don't bother to make themselves socially and tournament known. 

 

 

 

Full membership capped at 250

Junior executive membership capped at 75

 

We make up 23% of the golfing membership. Not sure what the retention rate actually is, but one would think a good many of us would like to call the club home for a long time since we already have skin in the game. 

 

 

 

 

[david.c.w]

40 minutes ago, daegyu said:

 

Full membership capped at 250

Junior executive membership capped at 75

 

We make up 23% of the golfing membership. Not sure what the retention rate actually is, but one would think a good many of us would like to call the club home for a long time since we already have skin in the game. 

 

 

 

 

Can you give a range of the check that you had to stroke to be one of the 75?