LA Country Club projected to be toughest US Open ever. Winning score might be +10

[LimaSierra]

300 yard par 3s and 560 yard par 4s with small, slopping greens. Should be a great event, but I worry it could end up being too tough

 

 

Here is a flyover every hole

 

Edited June 2, 2023 by LimaSierra

[So_Cal]

My friend who’s a 6 handicap was 2 under through 15.  Granted it wasn’t the tips but I think it will allow low scores and that’s okay. 

[slprince67]

I'll take the under on the +10 bet for the winner.....I'll guess -4 or better wins.....I know nothing about the course, but they wont embarrass the pros that much.

[BlackDiamondPar5]

Depends on the set up... 

 

 

Edited June 2, 2023 by BlackDiamondPar5

[kmbean]

Looks like a great track but not personally a fan of multiple 300y par 3s even though they play downhill.  Hopefully the USGA doesn’t bungle the setup, it looks like there are multiple opportunities for some very questionable pin placements.

[mosesgolf]

Wasn’t Erin Hills supposed to play really tough?  BK winner at -16.  These are guys are just too good.

Gary Woodland won at -13 at Pebble.  Last 3 years winners all won at -6.

 

[cdnglf]

Par 68?

[mizuno player]

I would love to see +10 win it. Won't happen. One tournament a year where the winner is a little over par is enjoyable to me. 

 

Unfortunately the winning score will almost certainly be under par. 

[Shaner1987]

I think someone will win it at a few under par. Between 2 and 4 under. It has some teeth sure, but there are some scoring opportunities.

 

What hole is a 560-yard par 4?

[DArnie]

4:46. Looks like someone was having some fun with that bunker? LOL🤣

[HomaComa]

@LimaSierraalready backtracking on our bet with a clickbait post lol. Also listen to the fried egg pod from this week. Gil Hanse said the winning score would be around -7 or -8. 

Edited June 2, 2023 by HomaComa

[golferdude54]

It’s in Hollywood. Hollywood wants to see birdies and eagles so the USGA will try to make it so.

[LimaSierra]

6 minutes ago, HomaComa said:

@LimaSierraalready backtracking on our bet with a clickbait post lol. Also listen to the fried egg pod from this week. Gil Hanse said the winning score would be around -7 or -8. 

That bet wasn’t fair lol. I can’t post for a year but you only had to change pfp??

[HomaComa]

51 minutes ago, mosesgolf said:

Wasn’t Erin Hills supposed to play really tough?  BK winner at -16.  These are guys are just too good.

Gary Woodland won at -13 at Pebble.  Last 3 years winners all won at -6.

 

I think Brookline last year was one of the best US Open set ups that I could remember. Course was tough but you could shot a good number. Also thought the course was amazing aesthetically. The USGA has clearly figured out something because the last 2 years have come right down to the wire

[3whacker]

the toughest thing about LACC is getting past the membership committee, next to Lakeside and Bel Air CC, they had the most stringent membership qualification requirements in the southland , they were so tough that published copies of the those requirements are known to exist in the same vault that contains the Ten Commandments...I got an invitation to play Bel Air once with a member's son, and in the parking lot some guy tried to give me his clubs thinking I was the new cart boy...I never got a second invitation

[So_Cal]

2 minutes ago, 3whacker said:

the toughest thing about LACC is getting past the membership committee, next to Lakeside and Bel Air CC, they had the most stringent membership qualification requirements in the southland , they were so tough that published copies of the those requirements are known to exist in the same vault that contains the Ten Commandments...I got an invitation to play Bel Air once with a member's son, and in the parking lot some guy tried to give me his clubs thinking I was the new cart boy...I never got a second invitation

Dang that’s harsh.  The privates are so good here but it’s not easy to get in, that’s for sure.  

[grm24]

1 hour ago, mosesgolf said:

Wasn’t Erin Hills supposed to play really tough?  BK winner at -16.  These are guys are just too good.

Erin Hills played as a par 72 for the US Open. Erin Hills played tougher than what the winning score finished at. Go back and look at how many top players missed the cut.

[grm24]

5 hours ago, LimaSierra said:

300 yard par 3s and 560 yard par 4s with small, slopping greens. Should be a great event, but I worry it could end up being too tough

So nothing but click bait hyperbole on your part. N'est-ce pas?

[So_Cal]

2 hours ago, mosesgolf said:

Wasn’t Erin Hills supposed to play really tough?  BK winner at -16.  These are guys are just too good.

Gary Woodland won at -13 at Pebble.  Last 3 years winners all won at -6.

 

I think the OP underestimates how good these guys are.  Plus they are using 460 drivers with pro V and Ventus.  The course would need to be around 8,800 yards to present the same distance challenge as back in the golden age. 

[mosesgolf]

35 minutes ago, grm24 said:

Erin Hills played as a par 72 for the US Open. Erin Hills played tougher than what the winning score finished at. Go back and look at how many top players missed the cut.

Brian Harman -12

Hideki-12

Tommy Fleetwood -11

Ricky Fowler -10

Bill Haas-10

Xander -10

Charlie Hoffman -9

Trey Mullinax-8

Justin Thomas -8

Snedeker -8

 

Tough?  Looks like a leaderboard from Waste Management Open

[grm24]

1 hour ago, mosesgolf said:

Brian Harman -12

Hideki-12

Tommy Fleetwood -11

Ricky Fowler -10

Bill Haas-10

Xander -10

Charlie Hoffman -9

Trey Mullinax-8

Justin Thomas -8

Snedeker -8

 

Tough?  Looks like a leaderboard from Waste Management Open

If the USGA played EH as a par 70 as they do at many US Open sites all of the scores you listed above would be 8 shots lower against par. So a range of -4 to even par. BK would have been -8. Would that have been so bad? FWIW when BK won at EH at -16 his 4 round stroke total wasn't the lowest in US Open history. Regardless of what par was attached to it.

 

In case you forgot EH cut down the rough before the first round due to player complaints and the course was wet with wide fairways.

 

If EH was so easy as you seem to think then how did Rory, Rahm, JDay, Justin Rose, Henrik, Adam Scott, Francesco Molinari, Bubba, DJ, BDC, etc all miss the cut? I mean the course was obviously so easy all those top players couldn't have missed the cut right?

 

Every US Open has players that you don't think much of finish well in the event. So in 2017 I guess Hideki, Fleetwood, Xander, JT and even Rickie weren't representative of good players playing well in the event?

Edited June 2, 2023 by grm24

[HomaComa]

6 hours ago, LimaSierra said:

That bet wasn’t fair lol. I can’t post for a year but you only had to change pfp??

You’re the one who gave me that condition lmao

[bcjim]

It does look rather difficult. 

[MattyO1984]

After a few years of some semblance of competence am I the only one that is hoping for the USGA to revert back to full on Shinnecock mode just for the sheer ridiculousness of it all?! 

[iBanesto]

9 minutes ago, MattyO1984 said:

After a few years of some semblance of competence am I the only one that is hoping for the USGA to revert back to full on Shinnecock mode just for the sheer ridiculousness of it all?! 

 

Goosen's putting on that final day was probably one of the best clutch performances especially on those greens.

 

 

[mat562]

18 minutes ago, MattyO1984 said:

After a few years of some semblance of competence am I the only one that is hoping for the USGA to revert back to full on Shinnecock mode just for the sheer ridiculousness of it all?! 

 

It's the USGA, so the potential for inter-group green-dousing and 18th-at-Olympic-esque miss a 3-footer and it's off the green farcical scenes will surely be there.

 

We've had a few low-scoring US Opens lately, so the USGA's irrational phobia of red numbers will potentially be back with a vengeance so that we can party like it's 1974.

 

 

 

Edited June 2, 2023 by mat562

[br61]

Having watched Walker Cup on TV, it does look tough but the pros are so good. I can see winning score at around -5 or so. I would love to see 15th hole play as a 78 yard par 3. It gave lot of Walker Cuppers fits.

[3whacker]

LACC is going to get sliced and diced by the pros, its going to be overcast in the morning wave by what we know here in SoCal as June gloom and the sun will  finally break later in the afternoon, there will be little to no wind and unless they watered it and put away the mowers they cant grow the rough to USOPEN standards, its going to play like a cross between Riviera just a few miles away and not quite like Torrey two hours away. We are going to have to listen to announcers pontificate about the famed George Thomas design built in the 1920's, but us locals know it as the golf course off Wilshire Blvd near Century City, where people now drive their Tesla's, and the wait staff at all the restaurants are all working on a screen play, or waiting to be cast in the next Taylor Sheridan saga...whats your dream, this is Hollywood...everybody here has a dream

[mshills]

Who “projected” this US Open to be the toughest ever….and winning score of +10?
 

OK, that’s ridiculousness worthy of ESPN. 

[MattyO1984]

18 minutes ago, mat562 said:

 

It's the USGA, so the potential for inter-group green-dousing and 18th-at-Olympic-esque miss a 3-footer and it's off the green farcical scenes will surely be there.

 

We've had a few low-scoring US Opens lately, so the USGA's irrational phobia of red numbers will potentially be back with a vengeance so that we can party like it's 1974.

 

I don't ask for it often but I do miss the days of carnage! If the USGA fail me, I can only hope that the R&A employ Carnoustie 1999 tactics at Liverpool next month.