MEMBER REVIEWS: Tour Edge Exotics 723 Driver! See What Members Are Saying!

[GolfWRX_Official]

We have four members testing out the new Tour Edge Exotics 723 Driver. Two members will be testing the E723, while the other two will be testing the C723. The new E723 metals are MOI+ designs built for maximum forgiveness, while the new C723 designs are all about harnessing power and dialing in low spinning distance. The members below will be reporting back to the community about the things that they have noticed while testing this product. Please feel free to ask any questions that you might have, as the testers will be happy to answer them!

The testers are:

@Dpavs

@rlb4

@jl3424

@molecularman

 

Learn more about the Tour Edge Exotics E723 Driver here and the Tour Edge Exotics C723 Driver here.

A huge thank you goes out to @Tour Edge Golffor putting on this member testing event!

[golfinbrad]

Congrats!!!! I have the C722 and would love to see how it compared.  Looking forward to some good reviews.

[molecularman]

Super excited to test this out!   Thank you to GolfWRX and Tour Edge!

I haven't received the driver yet - but I'll be sure to update with some pictures once I do.

I'll be testing the C723.   My current driver is the  9* Ping G425 Max set on flat and 1* down to play 8* with a Tensei AV Raw Orange 6x.  I'm formally a pretty decent golfer, able to manage a single digit handicap with minimal practice and play over the past decade.    I've really had a resurgence in the past season or two, and especially this season spending a lot of time on the range.  

The driver, at one point, was my most confident club.  I've been through several drivers over the recent years (TM M4, TM SIM, Callaway Epic Flash SZ, and now the Ping).   I've not really loved any of them like my old SMT Nemesis.

With a lot of swing work this season, I'm hitting the Ping G425 Max really well - but I don't particularly love the head shape and sound.  The heads a little heavy and looks huge + the slightly longer playing length at 45.75.  It just feels slow and unwieldy.  I also find I'm getting too much spin when I really go after it. 

Excited to compare with the Tour Edge.   With two weights and 2* of adjustment there is a lot to work with.  I watched a recent review going head to head with the Titleist TSr3,  the Tour Edge was lower spinning and longer!   More compact shape, better sound, low spin -  all the things I want.

[Dpavs]

Firstly, I would like to express my many thanks to Tour Edge and GolfWRX for the opportunity to test and review the E723! This should be interesting and a lot of fun!

 

The Details-

The driver I will be testing is the 9* E723. Spec wise I went with a standard loft and lie but asked for the driver shaft to be cut to play at 45”. Though GolfWrx did a good job of specifying this for me, somewhere in the translation the driver ended up being 44.5”. Rather than having to send anything back and have it replaced I am opting to just play it at the delivered length. This will be a double experiment then in some regards as I will be evaluating not only the driver but how the slightly shorter length works out for me.

 

          

 

A little bit of background-

Age - 66

HDCP - The group I play with really doesn't keep track anymore and to be honest it's just not an important thing for me to care about these days. When I played more regularly I was once as low as an 8 hdcp but I don't play or practice as much these days. Now my game blows hot and cold and if I had to guess based upon how I shoot in aggregate, it's probably somewhere between 16 and 18 on the average.

 

I am a fair driver of the ball for my age. My long approaches are decent enough for the better part and my putting blows hot and cold, but my iron play has been very inconsistent for the past couple of years which has caused a jump in my average scores unfortunately.

 

Currently I am gaming the 9.5* 2020 PXG 0211 cut at 45”. I had picked this club up on a whim when they were closing out the 2020 model at a great price. After some initial workouts with it I was surprised that it actually was performing better as well as my then gamer, a PXG Proto+. Distances between the two were similar but the 0211 was simply hitting more fairways for me.

 

I am keenly interested in seeing if the Tour Edge Exotics E723 can keep pace with and perhaps outperform the 0211 distance wise and still hit as many fairways.

 

Tour Edge and I have a history-

I have been playing Tour Edge clubs since I was first introduced to them over 15 years ago. In the past I’ve had the pleasure of gaming their Exotics irons, C721 hybrids (great sticks here!), and a C721 Driver. The C721 series was really a stand out performer for me and I only recently discontinued using the C721 Hybrids. This was mostly due to gapping issues with other clubs which snuck there way into my bag for one reason or another. That said, one of the hybrids is nestled in my closed still as a backup option. It’s really that good and I just can’t bring myself to sell it even though club gapping wise and for the course I am playing most often it just doesn’t make sense to carry it right now.  

I also gamed the C721 Driver on and off for about 2 seasons. When I struck the C721near the center the distance was stellar but the forgiveness was what I would only call adequate. The main reason it did not inevitably stay in the bag was that on certain off center hits the spin would simply drop too low for me as I do not have a high swing speed. As you probably know, a moderate to low swing speed and spin around or under 1800 rpm results in some serious Phil Niekro like action causing the ball to simply drop from the sky.

 

Unboxing-

I was pleasantly surprised yesterday with the arrival of the Tour Edge box. (That was fast!) A box by any other name is still a box but Tour Edge does use a nice heavy box which did not suffer even a small nick in shipping.

The picture below probably doesn’t do it justice but the E723 Driver was firmly packed so that nothing would rattle around in shipping. In the past, I have received clubs from some other major manufacturer where the driver was simply loosely thrown into a box with no packing at all and the wrenches were not well secured. On at least one occasion this resulted in a chip in the paint on the crown. There was no way that was happening with this guy so kudos to Tour Edge for making sure there was plenty of paper filler and that everything was secure for a safe trip to my doorstep!

 

 

 

First Impressions-

 

Looks-

The finish of the crown on the E723 is pretty much on par with the last two generations which include the 721 and 722 lines. While I knew this was the case, when looking the driver over,  it did strike me that this look has perhaps become a bit dated. To be honest, a glossy carbon fiber crown just no longer moves me the way it once did. I guess the novelty there has simply worn off a bit. As I went over it, I kept thinking that even simply changing the crown to have a matte finish would breathe some new life into the now familiar RidgeBack design.

Still all in all the crown is pleasant enough to look at and not off putting in anyway at all. From a purely aesthetic view point, I particularly like the change regarding the new spine on the crown. On the 723 it is tapered and much sleeker looking than in past years and the flare at the heel is gone from view. The sole has also been updated and in my book for the better. Gone are the red and white splashes of color and\or chrome ridges of the 721 and 722 series and IMO the new simplified and well thought out plain black coloring with tasteful white lettering is simply more elegant and pleasing to the eye.

For those who would only consider a compact classic shaped head needless to say that you are probably not going to be a huge E723 fan. The E723 head definitely looks to be on the larger size even for a 460g driver and has some noticeable elongation to it. Despite this to my eye the E723 is pleasing to look at as it slopes nicely backwards from the face to the heel and fits neatly to the ground at the back edge. It’s simple enough so that it is not gaudy in any way and yet still express that there is plenty of tech to be had here.

 

 

 

  

 

Speaking of Tech-

Per Tour Edge the E723 has numerous tech driven features. These include Quad Carbon Wings to move weight for higher MOI, Diamond Face VFT (variable face tech) to create faster ball speeds and an expanded sweet spot, Flight Tuning -MOI+ which allows you to reposition the rear weighting to promote either a fade or draw bias, a 15% thinner 360® RidgeBack design which incorporate titanium and allows more support on off-center hits to increase face deflection and increase MOI, internal Sound Diffusion Panels,  and of course an adjustable hosel which allows golfers to adjust the loft +/- 2 degrees and lie angle through a range of 3 degrees.

 

 

The moveable rear weight is easy to adjust and very simple to understand. While adjusting the hosel is simple to do I did initially find the setting indications on the hosel to be a bit confusing. Maybe I was just being slow at first but it was not readily apparent that what looked like a C was actually a U turned side-wise to indicate that a particular setting was more upright. Looking at the card that accompanied the driver provided the range of settings but no explanation as to what each setting looked like and meant. Once you figure it out though, it is pretty straight forward and not atypical of what you will find on most drivers.

 

The Cover Story – (It’s not all roses I guess)

It is a small thing but admittedly I am the least impressed with this part of the package. My biggest dislike is that it is very difficult to get the cover on or off (particularly back on. This is most likely due Tour Edge opting to use a single cover for both the C and E series and the E723’s somewhat elongated and larger head. A bit of expandable material somewhere in the design would have been appreciate here. The color scheme is pretty traditional looking in its red, white and black design but the material is not on par with what I have come to expect to accompany a premium driver. It just feels a bit thin, cheap and flimsy. That said, this is not the only time I have noticed this with the current range of offerings and perhaps manufacturers have just come to feel that most players will not be using the stock headcover in the long run anyway. I’m not sure about this but I can say that if the E723 finds its way into my bag on a permanent basis, the cover will not.

 

 

Taking a few waggles –

It’s readily apparent that the swing weight on the E723 is lighter than the PXG 0211, which is as it should be. I opted to go with the Air Speeder shaft in stiff hoping it will help me increase my swing speed just a tad and thereby picking up an extra yard or two. When I get around to doing some testing, hopefully this weekend, I will know if this plays out as expected.

Not much else to report for now but I do want to once again thank Tour Edge and GolfWRX for providing me the opportunity to review the E723!

 

Edited June 24 by Dpavs

[molecularman]

Speak of the devil -  She just arrived.

I requested the C723 in 9* with the Hzrdus Black 60 6.5 (more on that).   Standard length, midsize grip.    It arrived just as requested in a nice heavy duty box.  Well packaged without a hint of wiggling or knocking inside the box.




Tour Edge does offer some no-upcharge shaft options,  like a Hzrdus 70,  or the Tensei White.  I asked about the Tensei White - but they were only offering the Tensei Blue or the Hzrdus Black for this review.


Initial impressions:

The driver isn't as compact as I had hoped/believed.   It does seem little smaller toe to heel with a slightly deeper face, but still very much has the elongated MOI back.  I didn't know how I'd feel about the ridgeback design.  So far I don't mind it at all.   Initially I thought I'd really dislike it, but it seems like a great alignment cue.  I plan to get out to the range for an actual test.

As Dpavs mentioned RE: Head Cover.   It IS super hard to get on and off.   The quality and design seems to be very similar to that of the Ping G425.   I will say, after having it outside for a bit to take photos,  the headcover warmed up and was easier to get on and off.  So hopefully after a few range/course sessions it'll loosen up.

Pictured is in the neutral setting 9*







For comparison against the Ping G425 Max -  I set the Tour Edge to 8* (same as the Ping).  The adapter is nicer to work with  (doesn't get wedged in) and has a much longer insertion.  A problem with the Ping is the small glue surface. I had to send it back as the adapter/glue bond failed after some high toe misses.  

 Once set to 8* - I don't think the photo does it justice, because holy cow does it want to have an open face.  If you like for a driver to really set up open, this is your club!   I'm curious to drop it down to the 7* setting and see what it looks like.

[golfinbrad]

Can't wait to hear about this one.  Will you be getting some launch monitor numbers?

[molecularman]

17 minutes ago, golfinbrad said:

Can't wait to hear about this one.  Will you be getting some launch monitor numbers?

I hope to get some time with it on the range first.  We are supposed to get some much needed rain tomorrow, so I plan to get out Sunday for a session.   There is a big golf store about 45 min away that I was already planning to visit some time next week,  so I'll see if I can get on a launch monitor then and get some numbers, fingers crossed.

[rlb4]

First I would like to express my sincere thanks to @Tour Edge Golf and @GolfWRX_Official for giving me this opportunity to test the E723 driver. I will do my best to be worthy of this.

About me:

I'm 55 y.o. and have a handicap of about 20. I Typically will shoot in the 90's. I started playing around high school and played maybe a half dozen times a year up until a few years after college. Then nothing until about 8 yrs ago when my 2 boys(who were 12 and 15 at the time) became interested in golf. They caught the golf bug. Now fast forward to today(they are 20 and 23 yrs old) and they have gotten significantly better(1 and 9 HDCP) and I still am stuck in the 90's. I have been playing and practicing at the range a lot more this year as I'm tired of not improving.

My game and current bag:

I currently play a 2015 Callaway Great Big Bertha 10.5* driver with a Fubuki Z 50 R shaft. I got it used about 6 years ago. It feels pretty good but it can get very spinny which costs me a lot of yards. I also get punished a lot on off center hits as I can feel the head twisting. My driver swing speed is around 90-95 mph. It has gotten about 5 mph slower over the last several years due to old age/stiffness. I am hoping I can get back up to the mid to upper 90's at some point. I have a 2 way miss, either a high push fade that is not too dangerous or a pull duck hook that will usually go out of bounds. Those hooks are my biggest problem as I can lose anywhere from 1 or 2 balls on a good driving day to 6+ on a bad one. I will usually average around 2 or 3 fairways in regulation out of 14 per round.

Goals for new driver:

My #1 priority for my driver is forgiveness to keep me in play, ideally in the fairway, and not lose balls. Maximum distance is not a priority. I've tried every new driver this year in free demo days and the two that I felt were the most stable and forgiving were the Ping G430 Max and the Tour Edge E723. Of course these two happen to be the highest MOI drivers currently available with both at 5600 MOI. I also like that both have a moveable weight to influence ball flight for additional help with my 2-way inconsistencies. I chose the E723 in a 10.5* head with the Tensei AV Blue 65 Xlink shaft in stiff, standard length. I was able to hit both the S and R flex at PGA Superstore before choosing. The R felt a little smoother with some more kick. The S felt a little more stable. Both had similar #'s. I kind of liked the feel of the R a little more, likely because I am used to my flexible 56g/R flex/5*+ tq shaft I'm using in my current driver. But I chose stiff flex because on Mitsubishi's website it recommends a stiff in the Tensei AV Blue for swing speeds between 91-105mph, and my #1 priority was tight dispersion.

 

I will be testing the E723 at the range, on an indoor launch monitor and on course playing. I hope to give both my subjective opinion and some hard data #'s throughout my reviewing. If there is anything anyone wants to know specifically along the way, don't hesitate to ask. Tour Edge advertises the E723 as "Extreme forgiveness/MOI" and "one of the most forgiving and accurate drivers you can find". With my inconsistent ball striking and 2 way miss, I'm exactly who this driver is for. And I will unfortunately(for me 😪) be testing out the entire face and all of its forgiveness.

Initial Impressions:

Unboxing- I received the Tour Edge box today. It was a sturdy box and the driver was well packed and protected. Tour Edge included an adapter setting card and adjustment Tq wrench. Kudos to them as most manufacturers don't include one anymore.

Looks- I'm sure most of you have seen photos from every angle by now. Looks are very subjective. I like the more subdued sole vs the E722 which had too much red and was very busy looking. I like simple and clean looking so I would probably remove the "MOI+ Maximum Forgiveness" writing. I lean towards preferring matte finishes but do like the glossy carbon fiber look on the E723. I like the look of the 360* Ridgeback and feel it and the 723 aids in alignment. Overall, the E723 is a very good looking driver and has a clean techy look to it. The cover is nice looking, but as others have said, is a little thin and VERY tight. 

Sound- I did not like the sound or feel of the E723 the first time I hit it at a demo day. It was a fairly loud metallic sound and the face felt hard. Most other drivers sounded more muted and felt softer. I'm not very picky about sound, feel or looks like some on this forum 🙂, but it wasn't a great initial impression. I did hit it again just recently and while it was still louder and more metallic sounding than most others, it was kind of growing on me. My swing speed is not that high(90-95+) and the louder, more powerful sound made me feel like I was hitting it farther than I actually was 💪. So this area will definitely be a TBD.

Head weight: 193g w/ screw

 

Moveable weight: 17g w/o base of weight

 

Going to the range now so I'll have some more 1st impressions later.

[golfinbrad]

55 minutes ago, molecularman said:

I hope to get some time with it on the range first.  We are supposed to get some much needed rain tomorrow, so I plan to get out Sunday for a session.   There is a big golf store about 45 min away that I was already planning to visit some time next week,  so I'll see if I can get on a launch monitor then and get some numbers, fingers crossed.

All good.  I like the C722, but heard this was a step up.  Very curious.

[rlb4]

So I just had my 1st range session. Just a medium bucket. I started by hitting my current driver. Wow! I hit it better than I have in a long time. It must have been shi**** itself sitting next to the new driver during the 20 minute drive to the range. I then hit mostly the E723 for the remaining balls, mixing in my old driver here and there.

Overall the E723 felt more stable than mine. I felt like there were fewer shots offline and was less punished on mishits. Distance was comparable on most good shots. My old driver had more height but that was to be expected due to its 56g/5* Tq/Regular flex high launch soft profile shaft. The E723 Tensei AV Blue is a 68g/3.9* Tq/Stiff Mid/Mid shaft. It felt stable but my old drivers Fubuki shaft felt much smoother, livelier and easier to swing. I was torn between the Tensei in regular(4.4* Tq) and stiff(3.9* Tq). When I tried them, the regular felt smoother and easier to swing but the stiff felt more stable. I went with stability to try and tighten dispersion.

I'm still not a fan of the feel and sound. Even outdoors it is a loud metallic noise. It's not Ping G425 bad though. The sound and harsh feel is not a big deal for me. I would have no issues with it if the driver was worked well for me. I will probably get more used to it especially when using real balls on course.

Overall it was a positive 1st session. I think my expectations were a little to high going in. Ive been using my current driver for about 6 years and am very comfortable with it. My swing and timing are used to it. The Tensei shaft weight, stiffness and profile will take a little to get used to. Plus when your old driver has a career range session it kind of lessens the excitement. More to follow.

[Volgolfer]

I was one of the testers of the C721 driver a year or so ago and I'm anxious to see if the moveable weight has a notable effect on shot shape.  I am very happy with my driver but if this technology will create a real fade bias I might have to upgrade....

[golfinbrad]

51 minutes ago, Volgolfer said:

I was one of the testers of the C721 driver a year or so ago and I'm anxious to see if the moveable weight has a notable effect on shot shape.  I am very happy with my driver but if this technology will create a real fade bias I might have to upgrade....

Are you still gaming the C721?

[Greenie]

1 hour ago, Volgolfer said:

I was one of the testers of the C721 driver a year or so ago and I'm anxious to see if the moveable weight has a notable effect on shot shape.  I am very happy with my driver but if this technology will create a real fade bias I might have to upgrade....

 

I'm still gaming my C721 driver. I am totally happy with it and I haven't given much thought of upgrading it. The only thing that might get me to upgrade to the E723 is the weight and if adjusting it affects much of anything. I hope the testers of the E723 get into the results of moving the weight.

[molecularman]

The rain held off this morning, so I was able to give er a try on the range.  I made sure to really hit every part of the face to test it out 😅

TL:DR -  Performance and forgiveness seems to be right on par with the Ping G425, but the difference in shafts makes it tough to compare as I don't think the Hzrdus Black really works that great for me with this head.

This is the 9* head.    I initially had it set to 8* with the heavier weight in the back.   Noticed an almost persimmon like ball flight in this configuration.  Seemed way too spinny.    Moved the heavy weight to the front.  Which initially pulling the weight out was a huge PITA.  There is a bottom slider that stays inside the back track.  Trying to get the weight screwed in caused that secondary slider to start twisting so it worked itself sideways, so I had to finagle it back in position.  The procedure I found that works was letting the slider rest against the draw side,  then using a finger to hold it in place,  screw the weight mostly in,  then position it where you'd like,  then tighten.   Still a bit of a pain honestly, but once you dial in what you want, you probably won't mess with it much.

With the heavier weight up front the ball flight was noticeably flatter.  It seemed to also change the sound to a slightly more muted thwack which I liked.   I did notice a lot less forgiveness though.  That heavier weight in the back really does make a difference in terms of face stability. 

I settled on leaving the weight in the back, but turning the loft down to 7*.   That seemed to give me the ball flight I was looking for.   

I hit one really bad high toe (which is my normal miss)   usually mixed with a bad pull hook.  But this was a high little baby fade.  Really surprising there. 

I hit a couple of pull draws, but they stayed on the planet,  where other drivers would have been unplayable.   I attribute the few pull draws to the shaft and feel.   The Ping is a heavier head, the Tensei Orange is 10 grams heavier and .25" longer. The shaft is also fairly lively feeling.  So I can really feel the shaft load into transition and feel where the head is.

The Tour Edge is a lighter head, The Hzrdus Black is 10 grams lighter and a little more boardy.  So it mixes together is really limit feel for me.   The stock back weight is 15grams whereas the Ping is 26.   I know Tour Edge offers various weights online, so I might look into grabbing a 25 gram weight to throw in the back. 


Sound sample of the Tour Edge:

 

 

 

 

 

[Dpavs]

At Home on the Range – (Updated)

 

I was able to get out and put the E723 through some paces at the range this morning. I also hit my current gamer, the PXG 2020 0211, so that I could have a head-to-head comparison with today's swing. Both drivers are set to 9* and neutral.

 

About the shaft -

 

I actually wondered how I would get on with the lighter and somewhat shorter shaft. The lower weight quickly was a non-issue. To be honest I really couldn't tell much difference even though the shaft in the 0211 is around 8-10 grams heavier. That was nice to know! The shorter length, even though it was only a half inch, was something that I did have to adjust to but it really only took a few swings to do so. When I switched back and forth that silly half inch did cause me to have to readjust each time whether I was going to the E723 or back to the 0211. Not odd I suppose but I thought it was worth mentioning. That said, I found the Air Speeder to feel very smooth and never stiff. It did not feel flimsy or whippy in anyway despite being lighter and having higher torque specs. I think the Air Speeder is actually very competent in every way I could imagine and is probably too often ignored as a potential choice for many.

 

Work-ability –

 

Neither of these drivers is designed to be particularly workable but still it was worth testing each of the to the extent I am able. I can't always instantly pull a fade or a draw from the bag but with some effort I can usually produce either. My natural shot shape ranges from straight to a very slight fade. The 0211 was tested first to set the mark for the E723. I find the 0211 hard to produce a satisfying draw. Usually when I try to force it the result is much more of a hook than I am looking for. Not a huge duck hook or anything but very hooky just the same. Fading is another story. While the 0211 offers a fair ration of forgiveness it's pretty easy for me to produce a nice fade with it when I need to. On several occasions though the fade is over cooked and the result is right rough of worse. Today was no different and I found my results with the 0211 consistent with my past experience. Next up the E723. Typical shots ranged anywhere from a very small draw to straight to a very small fade. This was actually quite pleasant to experience. It felt like the E723 was very nimble at responding to what swing I put at it. Forced draws were much more pleasing with it veering along a gentle mid-high right to left path. Fades were comparable to the 0211 but never felt out of control and I did not experience a single over cooked fade. Hitting it straight was its forte of course as is to be expected with a high MOI driver. Nonetheless, the E723 is definitely workable if you have that stuff in your bag. For me, I try it only when I absolutely have to and it's a bit hit or miss when I do so a straight to a slight fade is really my go to shot.

 

Forgiveness –

 

It’s been said that it is easier to ask for forgiveness than permission and while the E723 will permit you to work the ball if want to, forgiveness is where it excels. Slight toe or heel misses are in no way punished at all. Low hits, even near the bottom, still produced boring mid-high shots. Perhaps due to the ½” shorter length than I usually play I never really hit anything much above center so I cannot really comment regarding those kinds of strikes and to be honest I wasn’t going to try to force a hit up there as my face strike control is not of that caliber and the results could have been disastrous. Far heel side hits did not feel very pleasant but did not lose much more than around 10-15 yards in distance. Toe hits lost even less and were not as harsh feeling. Low strikes also did not feel much different than when I hit the center to be honest so that checked a nice box for me. Comparing it to the 0211 I would say that the E723 was actually more forgiving over all as ill effects of missed strikes were more dampened as to feel and result. I was not surprised that the E723 is a forgiving driver. I mean that is what it is supposed to be right? But I was surprised as how that forgiveness was delivered. It never felt like it was fighting the swing I put on it but rather just tempering it a bit and yet still somehow keeping even severe missed from wandering too far off the mark. I have to say this is definitely the most forgiving driver I have had the pleasure of swinging… recently and perhaps ever.

 

Distance and Flight–

 

Generally, with the 0211 my distance is around 195-215 carry with another 20-30 roll out on well struck shots. My trajectory tends to be mid-high to high. With the 0211 mid-high shots bore nicely through the air but the high shots fall noticeably shorter. With the E723 I still hit that mid-high shot here and there but the more typical shot was a bit higher. The kick here was that even on higher flights it maintained about the same carry, losing only maybe 5-8 yards. With the 0211 the loss is more like 15-20 yards.  Is the face that much hotter? I don’t know to be honest and have no way to measure it but it sure seemed like it was. Mid-high shots had plenty of roll out. To be honest I was very happily surprised because I was picking up a good 10-15 yards more on the average with the E723 which again is a ½” shorter. All in all, another box checked!

 

(Update)

I forgot to mention, as far as I could tell, unlike the C721 the E723 exhibited absolutely spots on the face where the spin would drop causing a horrible knuckle ball.  The improved Diamond Face VFT seems to be doing it's job and doing it well. If there are any areas that would cause the spin to drop I can only say that they would have to be well above the center of the face. As earlier explained, I had left that part of the face unexplored today. Either way though, this was really great to see!

 

Feel and Sound – (Beauty is in the ear of the beholder?)

 

I have heard professional reviewers and some here say that the E723 was tinny and loud sounding but I actually did not find that to be true. Yes, it is a fairly loud driver to be sure but in truth, no more so than the 0211 which admittedly has never been accused by me of being muted in any way. Feel tends to follow sound and I actually find both to produce a pleasant whack to my ear. Then again at 65 years old I’d be willing to bet that I have lost some ability to hear the highest audible ranges anymore. Still, I felt as though I was able to compare the two well enough. By my ear I found the E723 to be a bit lower pitched overall as compared to the 0211 and accordingly the feel a tad more muted. There was not much difference in it, but the difference was there just the same. To be fair, feel is pleasant enough for me on either and is very similar between the two. The only noteworthy differences for me were that on pure center hits with the E723 I didn’t get that springy feel off the face like I do with the 0211. Feel aside though, the distances with the E723 were better on flushed shots. The other thing feel wise I noted was regarding far heel side hits with the E723. Those you could feel in spades. The E723 was not going to mask that kind of mistake and was certainly not shy about telling you about them. This was not a terrible thing in my book to be honest and I actually appreciate that kind of feedback. Overall, for sound and feel I felt like the two were kind of a draw as the differences were too slight to be significant.

 

Alignment –

 

It is worth noting that I did find the E723 much easier to set up and align. The neatly over and under lined 723 along with the long-tapered spine just seemed to lend themselves well to ensuring a proper set up. The simple X on the 0211 is much more a challenge in this regard. It may be a small thing but it is certainly an appreciated thing. I’ve never really got on well with drivers with poor alignment aids. For me anyway, the face tends to drift open at address without my noticing it. So, I am counting this as yet another box checked.

 

 

 

(Update)

Flight Tuning -

I guess for some this might be useful. I have found for myself that usually the neutral position works out the best. I would also venture a guess that drivers that have a similar feature are initially optimized to work in the factory default position. I did tinker with it but moving either to the fade or to the draw position just made the head harder to find and control for me. I will say that when moved to the fade position I could instantly tell that a fade was promoted. I could not say the same about the draw position but this is consistent with every past experience I have had in this regard so it is more likely down to me and my swing than anything else. One drawback to the movable weight was that it was kind of finicky to work with. It simply did not easily line up to the various setting save for all the way to fade or draw setting. Getting it neatly back to neutral was more work than it needs to be to be honest. Once set correctly though it's probably not something anyone would be likely to change very often so maybe the awkwardness of setting is a non-issue. All in all, it is not a feature I personally benefit from. On the other hand, I can see it might be useful for those that need that last bit of fine tuning.

 

Edited June 10 by Dpavs

[rlb4]

Went to the range today. Only hit a small bucket. My old driver is still scared and still outperforming. Basically same as yesterday. E723 was solid. Need to get used to the different shaft profile. I'm switching the standard grip to a Tour Velvet Midsize +4 which is also in my current driver. Going to play 9 holes tonight so will get 1st on course test 🤞.

[rlb4]

1st on course test is complete. Played 9 holes yesterday. Hit 3/7 fairways. I usually average about 4/14 for 18 holes. AND NO LOST BALLS! Of the 4 I missed, 2 were about 5-10 yrds off the fairway on the right and 1 was about the same off to the left. The other was my big miss which is a wicked pull hook. Obviously it's my swing and not the clubs fault. BUT, the 2 misses to the right, which are usually a push fade, were just a push, no fade. So just barely off of the fairway. Very playable. My old driver  the head/face would twist open and would have some slice to it. So the stability of the E723 definitely helped in that regard. Distance was on the low end of my average, even on well hit ones. I feel like my old driver will go farther if both are hit well. It could be due to the shaft and more definitive testing needs to be done. I will definitely take them both to a simulator to get hard #s. Overall, a solid 1st on course test. It's doing what it's supposed to do. Keeping me in play and minimizing my misses. Still getting used to it. Still don't like the sound/feel 😪. 

On a side note, I stretched the crap out of the cover near the elastic part and it is still tight but much better. I'm gong to continue to stretch it, maybe even use a hair dryer to heat it and get more stretch.

[rlb4]

Went to a range today with Top Tracer. Was able to get some hard data to compare my driver vs the E723. I tested both drivers at their standard 10.5* and -1 at 9.5*. I hit about 20 balls in each configuration. My old driver was about 5 yrds longer and a few yrds higher in each loft setting. Overall, the 9.5* ones only went a few yrds farther and a few yrds lower height than the 10.5* setting. Dispersion was pretty close, maybe a little tighter with the E723 and a few less wild ones. I am going to try a BGT Brava 54g Stiff shaft that I have. It has an All Fit adapter so I can try it in both heads for comparison. I stopped at PGA Superstore on the way home and was able to hit the Tensei Blue 65 in R flex. It definitely felt smoother/livelier and easier to load. Unfortunately I did not bring my club into the store to directly compare. Maybe later this week I'll do that. Lastly, the moveable weight is becoming stripped where the adjustment tool inserts. I t looks like one of the edges on the tool was not distinct and didn't fit snug therefore stripping some of the weight edges. I will call Tour Edge to see what I should do.

[golfinbrad]

Anyone know the weight of the C723 compared to the C722 or C721?

[rlb4]

1 hour ago, golfinbrad said:

Anyone know the weight of the C723 compared to the C722 or C721?

Head weights have been consistently around 193-194g. My E723 was 193g.

[jl3424]

4 hours ago, golfinbrad said:

Anyone know the weight of the C723 compared to the C722 or C721?

my C723 head is 193g

[molecularman]

I tried to hop on a launch monitor today, but was only able to hit a handful of shots.

I have the driver set-up for swings when I was warm and really swinging it.   So basically straight out of the car yielded pretty bad results..  I was getting weak little block cuts.   I think partly because I have it set to 7* and partly because the shaft just isn't a good fit for me in this particular head. 

Ultimately I think the C723 is as good as anything else you can buy.  It's a solid feeling driver with a large range of loft and weight adjustments.  Even bad shots stayed playable for me, which is a big deal.  But the most important thing is getting fit into a shaft that works for you.  For whatever reason Tour Edge only (readily) offers two shafts.  There are a few no-upcharge options, but I'm not really sure why they don't offer those more readily.

I had looked to get a 25 gram weight for the back, but it isn't in stock.  The only one in stock is the 21 gram.   So I might go old school and just get some lead tape on in to bring up the head feel for me.

[jl3424]

Thank you to GolfWRX and Tour Edge for this opportunity😀. I was out of town when mine got delivered so I was excited to get home and have this waiting for me.

9.0 Head in Neutral Setting:

I chose the C723 for a couple of reasons, I tend to gravitate towards lower spin driver models and I’m also a tinkerer (for better or worse) so the adjustability of the C723 was what I found most intriguing. It’s probably one of the most adjustable drivers on the market. The sliding weight, along with the ability to switch the positioning of the light/heavy weights between the front and back of the head was very appealing.

 

I was able to test it out a bit at the range today (no launch monitor unfortunately, hopefully can do some testing on one soon) and once I got a feel for the shaft I started having a ton of fun hitting this thing. I was happy with both the distance & dispersion I was seeing, both seemed on par with the drivers I had on hand to compare with (Cobra LTDx LS and TM Sim2).  I'm hoping to get on a monitor with all 3 sometime soon so I can actually have some data to look at.

 

With the weights in the neutral setting, I didn’t find the driver to be overly demanding so I really felt like I could swing away and not be punished too badly for misses. Both the sound and feel of this driver are very solid. The sound is on the louder side but not offensive at all. The feel is amazing off the center of the face, you can immediately tell when you’ve made a good strike. Most of my misses were toe side and while it still feels like the ball is coming off the face hot, there’s some feedback there so you know you missed the center. I'm sure I'll have fun messing around and experimenting with the weight settings and loft sleeve in the future, but so far I'm pretty impressed with everything in the neutral setup as the C723 seems to perform as advertised. 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 15 by jl3424

[Dpavs]

First trip to the course- (06/14/2023)

I am going to keep this initial report on play brief mostly because my ball contact was just off yesterday when I played. I am chalking it up to having forgotten to change out of my progressive glasses into my single vision sports glasses which is how I always play. The net affect seemed to be a lack of my brain being able to adjust what I think was a perceptual difference in distance to object down by my feet. <Sigh Added>.

 

That said my first drive was actually a pretty good one. The first tee played is a bit elevated over the fairway and my drive went just left of target and a bullet out to about 230 after roll out. For me that is a good, though not atypical decent result for the driver. I felt like that result was pretty much on par with what I have experienced with my 0211. Sound wise drives do have a noticeable thwack to them but I did not find it to be much of a departure from what I hear with other clubs. Maybe different but certainly not unusual. Play wise the rest of the day was filled with a mix of some good drives, tops and one wild toe hit. Again, I think I blame my poor vision and the distorted distanced I get when looking down through progressive lenses for the overall results as I was not experiencing this nonsense with just the driver. So, all in all I am kind of bummed I do not have more to report at the moment but I will be getting out again on Friday and will have more meaningful feedback regarding actual play to offer then.

 

I really like the double lined 723 on the crown for alignment and set up purposes. This element is so much better than the simple X on the 0211. Swing weight is a bit lighter on the 723 but swings feel very controlled. I chalked this up to the well positioned weighting on the head and the smoothness of the Air Speeder shaft.

 

A couple things I noticed as I looked over the club under bright sunlight was that there are a couple of cosmetic issues on the E723 I received. Where the graphite meets the metal on the sole in particular there are a few places where it appears that the clear coat is chipped along the joining edges. I know it's a club and not jewelry but this is the type of thing consumers are going to notice and may well affect their buying choices. Additionally, there are one or two places where dust or debris got on the head prior to or during the painting process. The result of which are a couple of small bumps or nubs in the finish.*  Yes, I know I am being very picky here, and all of this is very minor indeed, but my desire is for 100%  disclosure regarding my observations. The good is the good and the not so good well it is what it is too. To be completely fair none of the things I have mentioned are noticeable unless you are closely examining the head and you certainly cannot see them at address. For me it was a make note of it thing and then forget about it.

 

Worthy of noting is that I have seen this increasingly with products from other manufacturers as well. In more recent times I have had to ask for a different club from stock due to blemishes much worse than what I am seeing here.  Manufacturers like Callaway and Taylormade being two of the more notable ones I can recall.  From my observations over the past 10 years there seems to have been either a sharp decline in QC or a change in what is now considered to be acceptable to pass on to the consumer. One retail owner I spoke to indicated that it has been an increasing problem for them and they have seen many more occurrences of these type of imperfections than they would have say 10 years ago.

 

* (Note- I tried to photograph the small nubs but unfortunately I could not get them to show up in the photo like they do to the eye.)

Edited June 16 by Dpavs

[molecularman]

5 hours ago, Dpavs said:

A couple things I noticed as I looked over the club under bright sunlight was that there are a couple of cosmetic issues on the E723 I received. Where the graphite meets the metal, the finish is less than premium and appears almost as if it was chipped along the joining edges. I know it's a club and not jewelry but if TE really wants to compete with the big guys, they have to be aware that this is the type of thing consumers are going to notice and may well affect their buying choices. Additionally, there are one or two places where dust or debris got on the head prior to or during the painting process. The result of this are one or two small bumps or nubs in the finish.* 

That's one odd thing I noticed.   I don't know if they have some sort of protective layer over the top, or it's just really thick clear coat, but there is a distinctive line just past the actual paint line.   Mine had some sort of gunk in it,  maybe polish?      But yeah -  you can see it in this picture.


 

[Volgolfer]

On 6/10/2023 at 12:07 PM, golfinbrad said:

Are you still gaming the C721?

Yes.  Have no complaints and as long and straight as anything else out there.  But would like the flexibility of the moveable weight to make it more fade biased.

[Dpavs]

Round II -

I was able to get out and play 18 today and thankfully this time it was with the correct pair of glasses. My swing also just felt better off the tee today. This is going to be somewhat of a boring report but today it was mostly just one long straight shot after another. Unless you put a horrible swing on the ball you get a shot that just like to bore through the air as straight as an arrow. I did manage to hit a few slight fades but on the one attempt I made to draw the ball I ended up just hitting a straight bomb. (Bombs for me being qualified as around 220 in the air with 15-20 yards of roll out). I am going to say again how smooth this Air Speeder stiff feels. I am really impressed with both it and the E723 itself. Distance wise I still am not sure if the results are the same length as the 0211 or a bit shorter or a bit longer. I don’t think there is much in it but my feeling is that slight misses do not drop as much in yardage with the E723 as they do with the 0211 and that is saying a lot as I have found the 0211 to be very forgiving in that regards.

 

I did have a couple of mishits including one that was toe-ward and a bit open faced which resulted in a push fade and a drop of about 10 yards or so in distance. It really was a bad miss so the result was still very good all things considered. Another errant strike was more on the heel side and low but here again I only lost about 10 yards or so and this always was a pretty bad miss. I also hit one that was high on the face and while the shot was a bit higher than my best strikes, I did not notice any appreciable carry distance loss at all. On the 0211 high face strikes tend to balloon badly for me so this was a nice thing to see on the E723. Anything near the center of the face was rewarded well though and I was very pleased with the results. In fact, I am pleased, so much so that I am going to continue to put in play as the primary driver in my bag for now.

 

After two rounds and some range time, I think it is safe for me to say that if you are in the market for new Driver and you don’t at least give the E723 a whirl, performance wise you may well be missing one of the better drivers available right now.

 

Update

One thing I feel should really be emphasized with the E723. I think the initial impression when looking at the model is going to be that it is just another high flying rear weighted driver designed for forgiveness. While it is forgiving and it's design certainly supports this, the drives I am experiencing off it are not high lofty shots at all. If you do hit high enough on the face you can get a high flight but the ball never seems to balloon at all. Anything remotely well struck results in a very nice and boring drive. Indeed some of the drives I have had with it were absolute ropes. Anyone who has a faster swing speed really should check this one out. In fact, I'd love to hear some feedback from someone that does!

Edited June 19 by Dpavs

[molecularman]

I've had a few more range sessions - and left feeling like the C723 is a solid 20 yards shorter than the Ping.   My good shots with the Ping would fly the range.  Mishits would roll out to the fence.   I hit some really solid shots with the C723 and they were in the same area as the mishits with the Ping.

BUT I took it out on the course and was surprised by the performance.   The C723 is still a tad shorter, this photo I hit the same ball, both struck really well.  The Ping ball in the background was probably 5-10 yards farther.  But in all fairness, the C723 plays .25 inches shorter and I really feel that shaft isn't a good fit for me.  So credit the the C723 head!   It also seems very anti-left for me, which again is partly the shaft.  But it was very confidence inspiring to know the left side was out of play.


 

[Dpavs]

@molecularman Just curious, are you still playing the C723 at 8*? And if so are you using the O- setting? Also wondered if you have played around with moving the weight in either the fade or draw position and what result you had if you did.

 

I did try both the Fade and Draw setting but quickly moved back to the Neutral position as it just felt better and the initial results in either of the other 2 were not favorable at all for me.

[molecularman]

1 minute ago, Dpavs said:

@molecularman Just curious, are you still playing the C723 at 8*? And if so are you using the O- setting? Also wondered if you have played around with moving the weight in either the fade or draw position and what result you had if you did.

 

I did try both the Fade and Draw setting but quickly moved back to the Neutral position as it just felt better and the initial results in either of the other 2 were not favorable at all for me.
 

I have it set at 9* (O) now.  Initially on the range I had it at 8* O-, then dropped it to 7* the -- setting.   But I found unless I'm really warmed up and swinging free I was getting really weak block fades.   I've hit a prior generation Hzrdus Black 6.5 in a Callaway Epic Flash SZ - but something about this set up with the C723 it feels a bit stiffer and pretty anti-left.

I haven't messed with the draw or fade position.  With the Ping I initially put the 26gram weight in the fade position (trying to make up for a bad swing)  but I found the club head actually felt less stable like that.  I could feel the head twisting a lot on mishits.   I have found having that heavier weight right in line with the middle of the club does a lot for stability for me.