2025 Boy commits

[jkpgolf]

Anybody have a current list of Boys commits from 2025? If you do please post. Was following Instagram golf commits but now they are still catching up on 2024's 

Was curious who has committed so far in 2025. 

If your kid is 2025 how has their recruiting process been so far?

[MahalNeneng]

[leezer99]

59 minutes ago, MahalNeneng said:

What do the colors mean?

[MahalNeneng]

Internal use nothing relevant to anyone else

 

Ours is going well

 

Started June 15th with about 75 calls, txts, emails. Loads of back and forth and getting to know each program outside of online materials. 
List was/is continuously paired down as months went on. 
The boy had some good finishes this summer which only help. 
All the way down to 4 and took/taking official visits. 

[mrshinsa]

14 hours ago, leezer99 said:

What do the colors mean?

Hit list

[leezer99]

6 hours ago, mrshinsa said:

Hit list

 

[MB19]

On 9/13/2023 at 9:43 PM, leezer99 said:

What do the colors mean?

What set you claiming, G?

[wegobomber31]

#1, 2 and 15 on that list all going to Vandy

[MahalNeneng]

Updated:

 

 

[MahalNeneng]

Updated

[MahalNeneng]

Keep in mind the diffs and rank numbers are static from months ago. Lazy lol

[golferdad8]

Note: Many of the list of top players will be blank if they're going for the ivies. In general, the ivies will not give offers until after the players have their SAT(1500+, min 1450) AND have the JUNIOR year transcripts (hard classes mostly As). Princeton, Dartmouth, and Columbia will sometimes go earlier...but for the most part, the top players seeking ivies won't commit verbally until july or august before senior year. (the girls' ivies can go earlier, and often go by fall of junior year)

[wegobomber31]

On 10/7/2023 at 9:27 AM, golferdad8 said:

Note: Many of the list of top players will be blank if they're going for the ivies. In general, the ivies will not give offers until after the players have their SAT(1500+, min 1450) AND have the JUNIOR year transcripts (hard classes mostly As). Princeton, Dartmouth, and Columbia will sometimes go earlier...but for the most part, the top players seeking ivies won't commit verbally until july or august before senior year. (the girls' ivies can go earlier, and often go by fall of junior year)

Do any top 50 kids go to Ivy League schools?

[MahalNeneng]

All the info i have

[golferdad8]

9 hours ago, wegobomber31 said:

Do any top 50 kids go to Ivy League schools?

Yes, many top 50 will go to ivies, but it’s not that common & I will explain why. Sorry if this is long but some parents might be interested in this info. 

1. top 50 JGS ranking doesn’t mean they’re the top 50 student golfers & it’s easy to game JGS to get high differentials to get a higher ranked. Some junior golfers/parents intentionally skip tournaments which will drag down their rankings. Many top 51-125 golfers can regularly beat top 50 golfers (when they meet at AJGA tournaments or open tournaments). The smart coaches see through this & will pick regardless of rank (ie Duke/Northwestern taking non JGS international golfers). 
2. many of the top 50 golfers travel to invitationals which have high course ratings & top ranked players - this helps as a 78-80 adj ratings means shooting par can get you a -6 to -8 differential. If can sheet 68, that’s a -10+. They didn’t have this adjustment earlier & so there’s been major differential “inflation” the past fours years or so due to this. 
3. It’s tough for top 50 players to have academics that qualify for ivies. Due to travel, many top players are either home schooled, online schools, or go to less rigorous schools. The ivies want kids who are academically focused w 3.90+ unweighted gpa, taking all the honor classes/APs & have 1500+ sat. It’s almost impossible for the top 50 ranked traveling golfers among 2000+ golfers junior year to meet the above requirements. 

4. JGS is not static - for the 2024 class,  two of the kids going to Harvard & Princeton were NOT top 50 when they got their offers. However, they had great summers after junior year & now are top 50. Conversely, one of the top 50 players going to Ivy dropped to 100+. So it depends when you’re checking rankings. 
5. HYP (Harvard Yale Princeton) Ivies men’s coaches don’t usually give offers until AFTER July of boys’ junior year transcripts are pre-read by admissions. (Or the boys get verbal offers subject to admissions but can’t post publicly about it yet).
6. If it’s a top 100-150 player on JGS with a green resume attached, and they’re still not committed - they could be going for ivies & waiting for pre-read. UPenn’s two 2024 golfers commits didn’t get offers until august 2023 (top 150-200) JGS ranked, so 14 months after the June 15th D1 date opened. 
 

I hope this is helpful for some of the parents who are considering ivies - even if the boys are not ranked top 50. 

[Golfquant]

2 hours ago, MahalNeneng said:

All the info i have

I believe there are 3 (at least) in the top 50 for 2024 who have committed to Ivy League - 1 blank, 2 incorrectly listed to diff schools in table above

[wegobomber31]

7 hours ago, golferdad8 said:

Yes, many top 50 will go to ivies, but it’s not that common & I will explain why. Sorry if this is long but some parents might be interested in this info. 

1. top 50 JGS ranking doesn’t mean they’re the top 50 student golfers & it’s easy to game JGS to get high differentials to get a higher ranked. Some junior golfers/parents intentionally skip tournaments which will drag down their rankings. Many top 51-125 golfers can regularly beat top 50 golfers (when they meet at AJGA tournaments or open tournaments). The smart coaches see through this & will pick regardless of rank (ie Duke/Northwestern taking non JGS international golfers). 
2. many of the top 50 golfers travel to invitationals which have high course ratings & top ranked players - this helps as a 78-80 adj ratings means shooting par can get you a -6 to -8 differential. If can sheet 68, that’s a -10+. They didn’t have this adjustment earlier & so there’s been major differential “inflation” the past fours years or so due to this. 
3. It’s tough for top 50 players to have academics that qualify for ivies. Due to travel, many top players are either home schooled, online schools, or go to less rigorous schools. The ivies want kids who are academically focused w 3.90+ unweighted gpa, taking all the honor classes/APs & have 1500+ sat. It’s almost impossible for the top 50 ranked traveling golfers among 2000+ golfers junior year to meet the above requirements. 

4. JGS is not static - for the 2024 class,  two of the kids going to Harvard & Princeton were NOT top 50 when they got their offers. However, they had great summers after junior year & now are top 50. Conversely, one of the top 50 players going to Ivy dropped to 100+. So it depends when you’re checking rankings. 
5. HYP (Harvard Yale Princeton) Ivies men’s coaches don’t usually give offers until AFTER July of boys’ junior year transcripts are pre-read by admissions. (Or the boys get verbal offers subject to admissions but can’t post publicly about it yet).
6. If it’s a top 100-150 player on JGS with a green resume attached, and they’re still not committed - they could be going for ivies & waiting for pre-read. UPenn’s two 2024 golfers commits didn’t get offers until august 2023 (top 150-200) JGS ranked, so 14 months after the June 15th D1 date opened. 
 

I hope this is helpful for some of the parents who are considering ivies - even if the boys are not ranked top 50. 

That’s really insightful but your original post said many on the top 50 posted might be waiting for the Ivy League teams, but your post suggest there are kids in the high JGS ranges that will be going there. I don’t disagree with your explanation but simply clarifying my question about the top 50 kids that hadn’t yet committed. 

[golferdad8]

11 hours ago, Golfquant said:

I believe there are 3 (at least) in the top 50 for 2024 who have committed to Ivy League - 1 blank, 2 incorrectly listed to diff schools in table above

 

You're obviously on the inside track, but I think for the majority of parents who are tracking JGS and trying to figure out what's going on, the challenge is that the JGS ranks are dynamic, and the list referenced above doesn't have a date on it to track 3 critical times: 

1) What was the ranking at the time they're being recruited by the coaches,

2) What was their ranking at the time they received their offer,

3) finally, what was their ranking at the time the actual "public announcement." 

In other words, tracking the list above as "today's" Top 50 who are going to Ivies doesn't tell the real story.

 

Here's what I've heard on Ivies:

Current #7 JGS William Ma 2024 is going to Harvard...not SMU.

#23 Barry Zhang is going to Harvard, not USC. 

#37 Reed Greyserman is listed as blank - but he's going to Princeton. 

Also, current #17 Eric Yun (not on the above list) is going to Princeton. 

The two players going to Yale are ranked between #90 and #150(was higher at the time of their offer). 

The two players going to UPenn are around #150-200.

Columbia's 2024 commit is currently #297, but I recall he was ranked Top 60-70 JGS when he committed. 

Dartmouth's 2024 commit is #126, but I think he was Top 75 when he committed. 

 

Hope this is helpful.  

[golferdad8]

5 hours ago, wegobomber31 said:

That’s really insightful but your original post said many on the top 50 posted might be waiting for the Ivy League teams, but your post suggest there are kids in the high JGS ranges that will be going there. I don’t disagree with your explanation but simply clarifying my question about the top 50 kids that hadn’t yet committed. 

I'm confused - are you asking about the 2025s or the 2024s?

[MahalNeneng]

15 minutes ago, golferdad8 said:

I'm confused - are you asking about the 2025s or the 2024s?

Hes talking about 24s. 
 

that 24s list was from last december. 

[wegobomber31]

9 hours ago, golferdad8 said:

I'm confused - are you asking about the 2025s or the 2024s?

I’m asking about the 2025 list that is still underway. To summarize:
 

- guy posted the list of top 50, which is about half populated at this point

- you made a statement that many may be blank because they are waiting for the Ivies

- I questioned whether many of the top 50 go to Ivy League

- you provided context and additional information, which I found helpful 

 

I honestly don’t think the 2025 are blank because they are waiting for the ivies. They just haven’t sorted out where they want to go or programs might be waiting for other dominoes to fall. Maybe a few a year, at most. And I’m sure there are more in the next set of 50. 

 

 

Edited October 10 by wegobomber31

[Golfquant]

8 hours ago, golferdad8 said:

 

You're obviously on the inside track, but I think for the majority of parents who are tracking JGS and trying to figure out what's going on, the challenge is that the JGS ranks are dynamic, and the list referenced above doesn't have a date on it to track 3 critical times: 

1) What was the ranking at the time they're being recruited by the coaches,

2) What was their ranking at the time they received their offer,

3) finally, what was their ranking at the time the actual "public announcement." 

In other words, tracking the list above as "today's" Top 50 who are going to Ivies doesn't tell the real story.

 

Here's what I've heard on Ivies:

Current #7 JGS William Ma 2024 is going to Harvard...not SMU.

#23 Barry Zhang is going to Harvard, not USC. 

#37 Reed Greyserman is listed as blank - but he's going to Princeton. 

Also, current #17 Eric Yun (not on the above list) is going to Princeton. 

The two players going to Yale are ranked between #90 and #150(was higher at the time of their offer). 

The two players going to UPenn are around #150-200.

Columbia's 2024 commit is currently #297, but I recall he was ranked Top 60-70 JGS when he committed. 

Dartmouth's 2024 commit is #126, but I think he was Top 75 when he committed. 

 

Hope this is helpful.  

The 2024 Ivy recruiting class is the strongest I think I have ever seen.

 

So many Ivy omissions and errors in that table - almost as if by design.

[Tugu]

6 hours ago, Golfquant said:

The 2024 Ivy recruiting class is the strongest I think I have ever seen.

 

So many Ivy omissions and errors in that table - almost as if by design.

Lets keep this IVY golf talk in perspective, Harvard for instance is 51 strokes behind Cal at the Alister Mackenzie Invitational. They are in fact 12 strokes behind Cal's B team.

 

My point is they are great educational institutions. But lets not pretend that their golf program is anything more than a leisurely vocation.

 

My boys have 2 friends playing at 2 of the big name IVYs and they can barely break par. But they are fine young men who are getting a great education.

 

Edited October 10 by Tugu

[allenartlab]

1 hour ago, Tugu said:

Lets keep this IVY golf talk in perspective, Harvard for instance is 51 strokes behind Cal at the Alister Mackenzie Invitational. They are in fact 12 strokes behind Cal's B team.

 

My point is they are great educational institutions. But lets not pretend that their golf program is anything more than a leisurely vocation.

 

My boys have 2 friends playing at 2 of the big name IVYs and they can barely break par. But they are fine young men who are getting a great education.

 

Problem is they don't always get such a strong recruiting class year over year. If Harvard or Princeton or whatever can keep getting such top recruits like they do for 2024, they are top 50 program.

[Tugu]

17 hours ago, allenartlab said:

Problem is they don't always get such a strong recruiting class year over year. If Harvard or Princeton or whatever can keep getting such top recruits like they do for 2024, they are top 50 program.

Few good players that aspire to play golf for a living have the time and the inclination to get 1500+ in their SAT. Not to mention waiting til near end of their junior year to confirm their future.

 

Lastly I know some rankings for 2024 recruits have been mentioned, but top 50 seems a stretch. Especially once the rigors of those schools academics and life without mom/dad taking care of everything hits them all at once.

[MahalNeneng]

2 hours ago, Tugu said:

Few good players that aspire to play golf for a living have the time and the inclination to get 1500+ in their SAT. Not to mention waiting til near end of their junior year to confirm their future.

 

Lastly I know some rankings for 2024 recruits have been mentioned, but top 50 seems a stretch. Especially once the rigors of those schools academics and life without mom/dad taking care of everything hits them all at once.

Yes we prioritized education (4.0 and 27 ACT as a Sophomore) might possible retake to get a 28/29 but most academic scholarships to Top 50 programs dont require such high test scores and the whole “time and inclination” to get a 1500 SAT or 33 ACT is a major factor. Besides most top junior golfers are thinking of playing professionally. “There are no Ivy League alumni on the PGA Tour, and just one, Jeehae Lee of Yale, on the LPGA Tour.” ( https://www.usga.org/articles/2011/09/golf-smarts-21474843263.html )

 

Would be great to see, but that time and dedication to higher learning is soooo demanding as is golf at a high level. Only sooo many waking hours in the day.

 

[golferdad8]

On 10/10/2023 at 10:33 AM, Tugu said:

Lets keep this IVY golf talk in perspective, Harvard for instance is 51 strokes behind Cal at the Alister Mackenzie Invitational. They are in fact 12 strokes behind Cal's B team.

 

My point is they are great educational institutions. But lets not pretend that their golf program is anything more than a leisurely vocation.

 

My boys have 2 friends playing at 2 of the big name IVYs and they can barely break par. But they are fine young men who are getting a great education.

 

Agree with you that Harvard didn't do great this week (tied with Santa Clara & UC Santa Barbara). Although educational priority is a factor, another reason is that many of the best golf recruits are already committed elsewhere by July (post Junior year when Ivies can do pre-reads). Also, most Ivies have 7-9 active golfers, but if they could recruit a team with 12-14+ like many top golf programs, they might have a shot at being a Top 50 program. 🙂 

[MahalNeneng]

7 minutes ago, golferdad8 said:

Agree with you that Harvard didn't do great this week (tied with Santa Clara & UC Santa Barbara). Although educational priority is a factor, another reason is that many of the best golf recruits are already committed elsewhere by July (post Junior year when Ivies can do pre-reads). Also, most Ivies have 7-9 active golfers, but if they could recruit a team with 12-14+ like many top golf programs, they might have a shot at being a Top 50 program. 🙂 

Most of the coaches we spoke with are looking to shed their “covid weight” and get back to 8-9

[allenartlab]

47 minutes ago, MahalNeneng said:

Most of the coaches we spoke with are looking to shed their “covid weight” and get back to 8-9

How does Cal manage to operate such a large team, 14 members!? Coach Chun must have done a superior job fundraising... 

[allenartlab]

8 hours ago, Tugu said:

Few good players that aspire to play golf for a living have the time and the inclination to get 1500+ in their SAT. Not to mention waiting til near end of their junior year to confirm their future.

 

Lastly I know some rankings for 2024 recruits have been mentioned, but top 50 seems a stretch. Especially once the rigors of those schools academics and life without mom/dad taking care of everything hits them all at once.

The bar is at 1450 (super score) which should be achievable with some reasonable effort