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I struggle with driver more than any other club and one thing I noticed is that my timing tends to be better with a softer handle.

 

And from what I understand ventus blue/ tr blue has a softer handle.

 

But I was curious to see what in the GD line would be comparable to those two?

 

UB? XC?

 

When I was back in high school I had that yellow Nike Sasquatch and it had the stock Diamana shaft in it and from what I understand Diamana shafts usually have a soft handle and I absolutely loved that setup. I was much harder now than back then so was curious for some feedback.

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Driver: Taylormade Qi10 LS - Ventus TR Blue 6x (44 3/4)

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Irons: Cobra Tour 4-PW LA Golf L Series 120x

Wedges: Cobra SB 50, 54, 58 LA Golf L Series Wedge flex

Putter: Odyssey Ai-One Jailbird Mini

 

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By the chart, XC is classified as soft. By my own personal feel and results, UB and TR Blue felt very similar. I think XC has a very distinct feel of its own that cannot be compared to Blue or TR Blue very easily.

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VF is the closest in terms of EI profile.  UB is pretty close as well but a little softer in the mid and handle.  UB would the closest in terms of launch/spin compared to the TR Blue, IMO. 

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18 minutes ago, phizzy30 said:

VF is the closest in terms of EI profile.  UB is pretty close as well but a little softer in the mid and handle.  UB would the closest in terms of launch/spin compared to the TR Blue, IMO. 

I kinda need the launch which could be a good thing.

 

I thought UB was also a mid spin shaft. Appears to be moreso low spin.

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Driver: Taylormade Qi10 LS - Ventus TR Blue 6x (44 3/4)

3 Wood: Taylormade M2 - Ventus TR Blue 7x

3 Utility: Srixon MKII - Graphite Design DI 95x

Irons: Cobra Tour 4-PW LA Golf L Series 120x

Wedges: Cobra SB 50, 54, 58 LA Golf L Series Wedge flex

Putter: Odyssey Ai-One Jailbird Mini

 

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Just now, The Ultimate Hack said:

I kinda need the launch which could be a good thing.

 

I thought UB was also a mid spin shaft. Appears to be moreso low spin.

I'd classify the UB as lower spinning. 

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4 minutes ago, phizzy30 said:

I'd classify the UB as lower spinning. 

Which GD would be comparable to just standard ventus blue?

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Driver: Taylormade Qi10 LS - Ventus TR Blue 6x (44 3/4)

3 Wood: Taylormade M2 - Ventus TR Blue 7x

3 Utility: Srixon MKII - Graphite Design DI 95x

Irons: Cobra Tour 4-PW LA Golf L Series 120x

Wedges: Cobra SB 50, 54, 58 LA Golf L Series Wedge flex

Putter: Odyssey Ai-One Jailbird Mini

 

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Just now, The Ultimate Hack said:

Which GD would be comparable to just standard ventus blue?

That's a tough one.  I'd say maybe the GP is in terms of launch/spin.  EI profile is similar but not exact.  GP has more feel though. 

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4 minutes ago, phizzy30 said:

That's a tough one.  I'd say maybe the GP is in terms of launch/spin.  EI profile is similar but not exact.  GP has more feel though. 

I played pretty much every GD shafts released up to UB. Have not had a chance to try the CQ and VF from my expereince ventus blue plays most similar to TP imo. XC was a unique feeling shaft that did not match my swing what so ever. UB feel a bit stiffer and lower launching than the TP.

 

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I played pretty much every GD shafts released up to UB. Have not had a chance to try the CQ and VF from my expereince ventus blue plays most similar to TP imo. XC was a unique feeling shaft that did not match my swing what so ever. UB feel a bit stiffer and lower launching than the TP.

 

TP launched higher, spin was similar had had more kick than the OG Blue for me and my cousin.  Not saying that the two shafts are completely different, but I feel as though the GP is closer overall to the OG Blue compared to the TP. 

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I tested AD-IZ and Ventus Blue head to head in a 3W fitting, I'd say to me they are 90% similar but the Ventus felt a little off to me at the finish. 

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What about the XC?

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Driver: Taylormade Qi10 LS - Ventus TR Blue 6x (44 3/4)

3 Wood: Taylormade M2 - Ventus TR Blue 7x

3 Utility: Srixon MKII - Graphite Design DI 95x

Irons: Cobra Tour 4-PW LA Golf L Series 120x

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Putter: Odyssey Ai-One Jailbird Mini

 

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1 hour ago, The Ultimate Hack said:

What about the XC?

XC has a really soft handle so it feels a little different compared to the TR Blue/OG Blue.  Much smoother and you feel unloading/slight bend right under the handle whereas you feel that more in the mid section with the OG/TR Blue.  Launch and spin were similar.  XC was more stable for me than either shaft.   

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3 hours ago, The Ultimate Hack said:

I struggle with driver more than any other club and one thing I noticed is that my timing tends to be better with a softer handle.

 

And from what I understand ventus blue/ tr blue has a softer handle.

 

But I was curious to see what in the GD line would be comparable to those two?

 

UB? XC?

 

When I was back in high school I had that yellow Nike Sasquatch and it had the stock Diamana shaft in it and from what I understand Diamana shafts usually have a soft handle and I absolutely loved that setup. I was much harder now than back then so was curious for some feedback.

I have original Ventus Blue, and TR Blue in my driver.  Their handles are not soft... especially TR Blue.  That's the reason I play TR Blue, its handle is stiff, mid is stiff and tip is ultra-stiff.  The closest GD has is the new Tour AD VF, Firm+, stiff and very stiff.  I think Tiger is using it at Hero.

 

 

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9 hours ago, phizzy30 said:

XC has a really soft handle so it feels a little different compared to the TR Blue/OG Blue.  Much smoother and you feel unloading/slight bend right under the handle whereas you feel that more in the mid section with the OG/TR Blue.  Launch and spin were similar.  XC was more stable for me than either shaft.   

Would the IZ be like the ventus red or tr red?

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Driver: Taylormade Qi10 LS - Ventus TR Blue 6x (44 3/4)

3 Wood: Taylormade M2 - Ventus TR Blue 7x

3 Utility: Srixon MKII - Graphite Design DI 95x

Irons: Cobra Tour 4-PW LA Golf L Series 120x

Wedges: Cobra SB 50, 54, 58 LA Golf L Series Wedge flex

Putter: Odyssey Ai-One Jailbird Mini

 

Balls: TP5X

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9 hours ago, The Ultimate Hack said:

Would the IZ be like the ventus red or tr red?

IZ is linear.  Neither the OG/TR Red are linear to me.  However, launch/spin wise, I would classify the IZ as more OG Red. 

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