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5 up is wild. Last one must be the fairway finder.

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On 4/3/2024 at 6:33 PM, TLUBulldogGolf said:

5 up is wild. Last one must be the fairway finder.

I swing 5 up. I am also 160ish ball speed so trying to get as much as I can...

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How do you get that far up? That is wild to me.. 

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4 hours ago, chinaski said:

I swing 5 up. I am also 160ish ball speed so trying to get as much as I can...

 

11 minutes ago, QuigleyDU said:

How do you get that far up? That is wild to me.. 

Is 5 up really that wild? I sometimes hit 6 or 7 up and have trouble not getting that high ha.

 

I feel like 5 up is optimal at those speeds no?

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16 minutes ago, TomBomb51 said:

 

Is 5 up really that wild? I sometimes hit 6 or 7 up and have trouble not getting that high ha.

 

I feel like 5 up is optimal at those speeds no?

I am just thinking about myself. I am 0-2 up.. I would love to be at 5.. I think the average on tour is actually negative. So 5 is pretty wild compared to the average. 

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38 minutes ago, QuigleyDU said:

How do you get that far up? That is wild to me.. 

I tee it up pretty high with 3-1/4" tees barley set in. That helps. 

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19 minutes ago, QuigleyDU said:

I am just thinking about myself. I am 0-2 up.. I would love to be at 5.. I think the average on tour is actually negative. So 5 is pretty wild compared to the average. 

I guess its a bit of you want what you dont have. I would love to be at ~2...

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5 up is pretty normal for me and yet still I'd like to be hitting the ball higher to optimize my numbers. 

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1 minute ago, Valtiel said:


AoA isn't/hasn't ever been directly connected to spin, it's a persistent myth based on bad cause/effect that was cleared up with the advent of modern launch monitors but still remains as one of those golf "-isms"

Without going too far into the weeds, the myth originated from the fact that most over the top slicers have a negative AoA with the driver and struggle with spin issues, but the AoA is a red herring. The actual cause of the spin variation is a combination of strike and dynamic loft. When you're over the top you're often steep and swinging outside in, and this requires some degree of an open clubface to manage the path and some sort of physical compensation to manage the AoA, often a combo of tilting and flipping. All of these tend to create high dynamic loft, basically turning your driver into a 5w, and thus spinning like one. You can still do this just as much with a very positive AoA as well, its just less common for different reasons. 

In the order posted these Trackman numbers suggest a stock fade, stock draw, and slightly lower potentially flighted "fairway finder" fade. All maintain a very tight face to path relationship and thus likely a tight control over dynamic loft, which means tight spin window. 

Very good explanation for this.  

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10 hours ago, TomBomb51 said:

I guess its a bit of you want what you dont have. I would love to be at ~2...

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On a trackman you would be around 3.5-4°.

As foresight reads the face and trackman reads the center of the head, there is roughly 2° difference in AOA of drivers, Foresight being more upward. 

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Good grief. That's just nuts. How do these people get this good?

 

I have a driver, a couple FWs, some irons, a couple wedges, and some golf balls and tees in my bag, but any resemblance other than that between their game and mine is pretty much non-existent.  They are just in a completely different universe. 

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I would love to play with Rory and be emasculated with my 270 carry, very fast and efficient for a smaller gent 

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Can someone clarify two things for me:

 

  • Is AoA how much "up" you're hitting on it? So the presented loft would be AoA + loft on the driver? 
  • Does TM read swing speed faster or slower than GC quad? 

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He still has one of the most positive AoA on tour.  Surprised to see that his swing path is closer to neutral nowadays than in the past where he used to be extremely in to out.  Or maybe he's been purposely trying to implement a more neutral path in order to lessen the chances of that big snap hook rearing it's ugly head that cost him tournaments in the past...........

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3 hours ago, chollier986 said:

I’m 5 up and would love to be 2

Isn’t this just a perfect representation of golf life.. we all want something else. Lol

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On 4/5/2024 at 8:30 AM, Pnwpingi210 said:

5 up hurts my back thinking about it

It hurts, lol.  Used to be +5 back in the day and the the amount of side bend it takes to achieve 5+ AoA is ridiculous.  2-3 AoA nowadays due to herniated discs and age and it's easier on the back plus contact is more consistent.   

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