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Trying to use a new profile and don't remember seeing many that fit this spec over the years so wanted to see if anyone could provide some help. 

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Krank Formula Fire LD 4 degree Paderson Kinetixx Velocity D30+

Cobra F9 tour 13.5 turned to 12.5 Aldila RIPX 85TX

3-P Ping i210 LA golf L-Series 6 Flex

50 Ping glide forged 4.0 Lagp L-Series 6 flex

56&60 Ping glide forged pro La golf L series 6 flex

PXG Battle Ready II Blackjack double bend

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26 minutes ago, Trippels said:

Ventus red or tr red

 

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Ive seen the EI curves on these from Russ Rydens site and they always looked like they curled up in stiffness towards the tip and were closer to a blue board.. do they actually feel tip soft?

Current Setup:

LH

Krank Formula Fire LD 4 degree Paderson Kinetixx Velocity D30+

Cobra F9 tour 13.5 turned to 12.5 Aldila RIPX 85TX

3-P Ping i210 LA golf L-Series 6 Flex

50 Ping glide forged 4.0 Lagp L-Series 6 flex

56&60 Ping glide forged pro La golf L series 6 flex

PXG Battle Ready II Blackjack double bend

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In addition to the above already mentioned, Kiyoshi Purple (https://obanshafts.com/woods/kiyoshi-purple/), UST LIN-Q M40X TSPX Red (https://ustmamiya.com/tspx/woods/lin-q-red/), and Tensei 1K Pro Red (https://mitsubishigolf.com/products/tensei-1k-pro-red).

Callaway Paradym 9 -- Accra TZFive 60

Callaway Paradym 15 & Paradym TD 18  -- Accra TZFive 70

Cobra King Tec 22 & 25 -- MMT 80

Ping i525 6-PW, UW -- Modus 120

Cleveland RTX 6 Zipcore 54 & 58 -- DG Spinner 

Bettinardi Hive Custom -- Stability Black

Callaway Chrome Soft X LS Triple Track Yellow; Lamkin Sonar Midsize + grips

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Diamana WB/GT, 1K Pro Blue/Red.

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Callaway AI Smoke Paradym 💎💎💎9* - Tour AD VF-7TX

TM Qi10 Tour 15* - Diamana GT 80TX

TM Tour Issue Rescue 11 TP Deep Face Proto 16* - Ventus Black HB 9TX

New Level NLU-01 21* - KBS Hybrid Proto 105X

New Level 623-M 5-PW - MMT 125TX

Miura Tour 54* HB - KBS 610 125 S+, New Level SPN forged M-grind 58* - KBS Tour 130X

Scotty Cameron Studio Select Newport 2

 

 

 

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A cheap option if you can find it is one of the older miyazaki kusala shafts. They labelled their shafts with 4 number codes indicating the stiffness in 4 different sections of the club. I always like the kusala black which were butt soft and stiff tipped but since you want the opposite of that, I think the kusala silver or white would work. These were stock shafts in the old cleveland drivers around 2011-2012 iirc. If you find one just ask the seller for the 4 number code on the shaft and then you'll know if its the right one for you (basically the first number would be the highest (stiff handle) and the last number would be low (soft tip)

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3 minutes ago, SwooshLT said:

Accra TZ6 

This is another one ive thought about but the EI curve makes it look like its more mid soft vs tip..

Current Setup:

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Krank Formula Fire LD 4 degree Paderson Kinetixx Velocity D30+

Cobra F9 tour 13.5 turned to 12.5 Aldila RIPX 85TX

3-P Ping i210 LA golf L-Series 6 Flex

50 Ping glide forged 4.0 Lagp L-Series 6 flex

56&60 Ping glide forged pro La golf L series 6 flex

PXG Battle Ready II Blackjack double bend

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45 minutes ago, Tbone107 said:

This is another one ive thought about but the EI curve makes it look like its more mid soft vs tip..

 

It's a strange bird ......Accra says tip ACTIVE...... but the torque is very tight ..... tz6 is mid high launch and very tight dispersion....if I was young , I'd keep it in my gamer but as for now, just tighter than I'd like .....love the launch profile 

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1 minute ago, TJ83 said:

Id say the diamana wb, I have 63tx. Nice and stable with a super tiny kick through impact. For me launches slightly lower than ventus black tr 6x and spins about the same. 

I have looked at that one.. Mitsubishi lists it as having a softer handle though, when I really am after something very butt stiff and really want something that launches mid-high as that would make me assume it had at least a softer tip. 

Current Setup:

LH

Krank Formula Fire LD 4 degree Paderson Kinetixx Velocity D30+

Cobra F9 tour 13.5 turned to 12.5 Aldila RIPX 85TX

3-P Ping i210 LA golf L-Series 6 Flex

50 Ping glide forged 4.0 Lagp L-Series 6 flex

56&60 Ping glide forged pro La golf L series 6 flex

PXG Battle Ready II Blackjack double bend

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1 minute ago, Tbone107 said:

I have looked at that one.. Mitsubishi lists it as having a softer handle though, when I really am after something very butt stiff and really want something that launches mid-high as that would make me assume it had at least a softer tip. 

Interesting. For me I don't notice the handle being that soft. The tip I definitely feel as softer compared to the ventus black tr I came from. I do have a very lazy transition though but my ss is 124-126 and sometimes 128. I'd imagine I'm still pulling on the handle later, and it doesn't feel very soft to me. But of course we all feel things differently. 

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7 minutes ago, TJ83 said:

Interesting. For me I don't notice the handle being that soft. The tip I definitely feel as softer compared to the ventus black tr I came from. I do have a very lazy transition though but my ss is 124-126 and sometimes 128. I'd imagine I'm still pulling on the handle later, and it doesn't feel very soft to me. But of course we all feel things differently. 

Ya obviously how these OEMS list them isn't always 100% accurate when compared to third party EI curve measurements but this is what they have it as..

 

 

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Current Setup:

LH

Krank Formula Fire LD 4 degree Paderson Kinetixx Velocity D30+

Cobra F9 tour 13.5 turned to 12.5 Aldila RIPX 85TX

3-P Ping i210 LA golf L-Series 6 Flex

50 Ping glide forged 4.0 Lagp L-Series 6 flex

56&60 Ping glide forged pro La golf L series 6 flex

PXG Battle Ready II Blackjack double bend

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1 hour ago, Tbone107 said:

I have looked at that one.. Mitsubishi lists it as having a softer handle though, when I really am after something very butt stiff and really want something that launches mid-high as that would make me assume it had at least a softer tip. 

I tested a 63/73TX and the handle isn't soft.  It's a true low/low shaft though.   

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TM Qi10 Tour 15* - Diamana GT 80TX

TM Tour Issue Rescue 11 TP Deep Face Proto 16* - Ventus Black HB 9TX

New Level NLU-01 21* - KBS Hybrid Proto 105X

New Level 623-M 5-PW - MMT 125TX

Miura Tour 54* HB - KBS 610 125 S+, New Level SPN forged M-grind 58* - KBS Tour 130X

Scotty Cameron Studio Select Newport 2

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, Tbone107 said:

I have looked at that one.. Mitsubishi lists it as having a softer handle though, when I really am after something very butt stiff and really want something that launches mid-high as that would make me assume it had at least a softer tip. 

The EI profiles of the Diamana WB varies between different flexes, the softer flexes have a bit softer handle (as is typical with whiteboard profiles) but the X and TX flexes have much stiffer handles and I could definitely feel that in the 73TX and 83TX which felt pretty heavy to swing which probably makes these shafts much more suited to high speed players who heavily load the shaft, both Champ and woodland have played this shaft in TX during recent months. I would say that the WB in the heavier stiffer flexes have the very stiff handle which you are seeking but not the soft tip.

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5 hours ago, ARSM1932 said:

The EI profiles of the Diamana WB varies between different flexes, the softer flexes have a bit softer handle (as is typical with whiteboard profiles) but the X and TX flexes have much stiffer handles and I could definitely feel that in the 73TX and 83TX which felt pretty heavy to swing which probably makes these shafts much more suited to high speed players who heavily load the shaft, both Champ and woodland have played this shaft in TX during recent months. I would say that the WB in the heavier stiffer flexes have the very stiff handle which you are seeking but not the soft tip.

Thanks, makes sense.. really want the softer tip with it, but I'll keep this one in  mind, it looks sweet lol

Current Setup:

LH

Krank Formula Fire LD 4 degree Paderson Kinetixx Velocity D30+

Cobra F9 tour 13.5 turned to 12.5 Aldila RIPX 85TX

3-P Ping i210 LA golf L-Series 6 Flex

50 Ping glide forged 4.0 Lagp L-Series 6 flex

56&60 Ping glide forged pro La golf L series 6 flex

PXG Battle Ready II Blackjack double bend

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Gotta second the Accra TZ6, very unique shaft that I think fits what you’re looking for. I’ve had incredible results in terms of dispersion. More reliable and consistent than any shaft i’ve tried, and i’ve tried a ton. Tip section is very active, but somehow also very stable and incredibly easy to square up at impact. It’s like you know exactly where the club head is throughout your swing. Getting the tip trimming right is important, incredible results in my driver with average tipping (i think 1/2”), but it initially wasn’t tipped enough for my 3wood and was too active

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G425 Max (14.5*) Ventus Blue 7X 42.25"

Apex UW (21*) Ventus Blue 7X 41"

Zx7 4-AW Nippon 120X

RTX-6 56*-60* Nippon 120X

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I have a Hzrdus RDX red 6.5 that i got in a PING 430 LST. I really like it and had a ton of success with it. I generally don't keep equipment that's not in the bag, but I kept this one for whenever the next PING LST head comes out. All the marketing for this shaft says it is meant for a more aggressive swinger but I think the public incorrectly perceives it as a high launching noodle. As a stock no-upcharge shaft from most OEM's I think it's a really under-rated driver shaft. 

Ai Smoke ♦️♦️♦️ 9* Ventus TR Blue 6x

BRNR Mini 13.5 Kaili White 60x

Apex UW 19* DI 8x

P DHY 22* Ct-aper lite 110
Ping Blueprint S 5-PW $-Taper 120

PING S159 50, 55, 60h 
Phantom X 7

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On 5/24/2024 at 4:46 PM, shokosugi said:

A cheap option if you can find it is one of the older miyazaki kusala shafts. They labelled their shafts with 4 number codes indicating the stiffness in 4 different sections of the club. I always like the kusala black which were butt soft and stiff tipped but since you want the opposite of that, I think the kusala silver or white would work. These were stock shafts in the old cleveland drivers around 2011-2012 iirc. If you find one just ask the seller for the 4 number code on the shaft and then you'll know if its the right one for you (basically the first number would be the highest (stiff handle) and the last number would be low (soft tip)

I believe the shafts from the old Cleveland driver were .350. Could be misremembering though...

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