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31 minutes ago, Holy Moses said:

Heartbreaking. Depression can come and go, and even if you’ve felt like you have turned the corner it can sneak up on you again. I’ve experienced this in my own life. May he rest in peace. 

 

yes, for those that don't have much experience with it personally or in family, it seems (and seemed) so "out of nowhere."  but I read things like this and it helps me understand a little more.   I"m sure his loved ones and even his other golfers ask if there was something they could have done, if they had just texted him after the round or whatever but I suspect that's not fair to them or how it works.

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1 minute ago, BlackDiamondPar5 said:

Very sad for sure and haunting for his family, friends and those around him in his last days.  The guys he was grouped with on Thursday and Friday will be questioning themselves for a long time for missed hints of trouble and whether they could have helped.  I've known a few that have taken their lives and for the survivors there was rarely any hints nor nothing so radical as taking their life.  One person I know was talking to his buddy about their plans together in the coming days. His buddy took his life 2 days later.  He said you never would have seen a hint of trouble in that last conversation... none! 

 

So sad.

Sadly true. I literally had lunch with my mom on the day of her suicide. There were no obvious indications whatsoever.

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5 minutes ago, BlackDiamondPar5 said:

Very sad for sure and haunting for his family, friends and those around him in his last days.  The guys he was grouped with on Thursday and Friday will be questioning themselves for a long time for missed hints of trouble and whether they could have helped.  I've known a few that have taken their lives and for the survivors there was rarely any hints nor nothing so radical as taking their life.  One person I know was talking to his buddy about their plans together in the coming days. His buddy took his life 2 days later.  He said you never would have seen a hint of trouble in that last conversation... none! 

 

So sad.

 

I'm sure that's partly why Malnati was extra emotional.  Ofc, there is likely nothing he could have done but you still ask those sort of questions.  I did have a friend once that texted me about something and I was too "busy" to respond and he attempted suicide.  Thankfully, he was unsuccesful, especially given how trivial and temporary it was (a bad breakup) but I obviously felt horrible and was incredibly relieved.

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41 minutes ago, RoverTiger said:

Lost my mom to suicide back in 2000, so I know what it's like to pick up the pieces. May his family find all the strength they can in the coming days.

 

My in laws were involved in a murder suicide November 2022 .....THIS really hits home for my wife and I ....plus extended family.....😔

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3 minutes ago, chip75 said:

I think the issue is that addictions and mental health problems are not temporary, they're just managed.

 

But the rest of your comment is spot on.

As a certified criminal justice professional since 1995, in addition to some experiences within my own family, very aware of the continual struggles and challenges, just wasn’t as succinct or eloquent in my phrasing as intended. Both your overall agreement and constructive correction in phrasing are appreciated. 

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12 minutes ago, chigolfer1 said:

 

I"m sure his loved ones and even his other golfers ask if there was something they could have done, if they had just texted him after the round or whatever but I suspect that's not fair to them or how it works.


it’s a natural prt of the grieving cycle of many to ask ‘could/should I have done something more?’

 

While it is not helpful in this instance and at this point, it is not an altogether unhealthy thing to consider at somewhere down the road. Each of us IS our ‘brother’s keeper’ to some extent. Each has his/her own impact on others by maintaining relational connectedness with a small circle of people. We obviously can’t prevent every tragedy, but we can help offer friendship and options to those we know who are struggling. I have no idea what compelled Murray to take the path he did, nor whether or not there is anything that anyone could have done to change his course, but it is always good to ask ourselves proactively, “What can I do to help?”

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3 minutes ago, SwooshLT said:

 

My in laws were involved in a murder suicide November 2022 .....THIS really hits home for my wife and I ....plus extended family.....😔

Oh my God. I can't even imagine dealing with that added aspect. To say that I'm sorry seems horribly insufficient.

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I was worried this may have been the cause but didn't want to believe it. My heart aches for his parents and loved ones. Losing a close family member is hard, but I know from personal experience that when they take their own life it adds so many  more emotions to the loss. A lot of second guessing and blaming yourself, but many times there are no obvious signs or tells that would prompt you to take action. As @Need4spd pointed out - its probably best we all try to be kind, patient and understanding to everyone we cross paths with as we have no idea what they're going through and maybe just a smile and a hello is exactly what they needed at that exact moment. 

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Very impressed by the fight, the return including victory at Sony Open in Hawaii, and was looking forward to watching you battle and grind for years to come...

 

 Rest in Peace Grayson... 🕊️

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I feel I'm only obligated to say this because I've dealt with depression and anxiety before...it's NOT a disease! never let a doctor/psychologist tell you that it is!...it's a state of mind and a learned behavior that took a lot of time for you to become that way. our personality and outlook on life dictates how we CHOOSE to deal with these behaviors...if you have depression in your life you have to look outward at what is causing you to behave this way. there's no need to look inward as there is NOTHING wrong with you. everyday is a battle but the more days you get up and fight the easier the battle becomes...good luck to everyone and RIP Grayson. 

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So many tragic deaths every year from all over the world from suicide and addictions.   For some reason this one hit me hard. I didn't know him, didn't have a chance to watch him a whole lot, but I followed his story.  It was such a heart-warming moment after he won the Sony.  Last night I rewatched his interview he did after his win.  You could just tell how much pain he had been through by his tone and by the look he had.  He meant what he was saying so much.  Just painful. 

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