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5 hours ago, Mitchell said:

As a certified criminal justice professional since 1995, in addition to some experiences within my own family, very aware of the continual struggles and challenges, just wasn’t as succinct or eloquent in my phrasing as intended. Both your overall agreement and constructive correction in phrasing are appreciated. 

What you posted was very eloquent, and compassionate. 

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To young tragic for a young man with his whole life a head of him and a very good life.

 

When one of my daughters was having a difficult this psychiatrist put her on Xanax. We learned 

people had suicidal thoughts on it. He mother took her off them asap and disposed of the drugs.

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Truly sad for sure. I'm on a very weak mental state now as I watch my dad get worse every day from cancer. This just had me in tears when I heard. Especially the way it happened. The smallest things can be a trigger for people in a good place. 

 

My wife years ago before me " tried" to end it. She uses Tylenol PM. Did she really want to do it? No. It was a cry for help. She said she would occasionally talk about it. ( She was raising three kids on her own and was told by her ex. Ask for money and I'll kill you. She was struggling ). Anyway.

 

She went through therapy to learn why she felt that way and came out in a great place. She has told me this. If you ever have someone close to you that you know is struggling.  If they go Quiet be really worried and reach out.  People that really want to be done will not tell anyone. They go Quiet ... 

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2 hours ago, scores said:

To young tragic for a young man with his whole life a head of him and a very good life.

 

When one of my daughters was having a difficult this psychiatrist put her on Xanax. We learned 

people had suicidal thoughts on it. He mother took her off them asap and disposed of the drugs.


I’m just going around this thread doing my due diligence.. Believe me- friendly trolling and fun debate, sharing, buying and selling is my preferred shot shape on this forum. 

 

Take care of this, please. The last part of your post isn’t the answer, or end of it. Please seek professional understanding of your daughter’s difficulties, the doctors and therapists available, and medicines. Please. 

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So he took his own life. It was a quiet fear inside of me when the story first broke, but I so hoped it wasn't the case. His parents in particular must be devastated. 

 

What is sad? Many of us here have lost people to suicide. The stories are heartbreaking (I really feel for you @rangerover - I can't even imagine how someone emotionally digests something like that). You always ask yourself "why didn't I notice"? 

 

But everyone has ups and downs in life. It is very hard for an outsider to discern between someone just going through a hard time in life, and one that has reached that ultimate low point where it seems like death is better than trying to fight your inner demons. That is a pretty freaking dark place (in fact, I'm not sure there is any place darker than that) and often the signs - from outward appearance - are extremely difficult to perceive, 

 

I know several friends that did it. And a few more that almost did it - but came back from the great abyss and are alive and thriving. 

 

Seems right to do a PSA here. As everyone knows, 911 is how you call the police. (The first 911 call was made in 1968 - first time you didn't need look up and dial the entire phone number to call the police in an emergency. It was conceived by the National Academy of Sciences But it works due to significant technical cooperation between the telecoms and the police. Anyone, anywhere can call 911, and it will go to the local police - all of which happens behind the scenes.)

 

Mentioning this, because there are several numbers like that. Including the "Suicide and Crisis Lifeline". Anyone anywhere in the country can call (or text, or chat at) 988. And this isn't just for people with suicidal ideation ... anyone that has an odd feeling about friend can call, talk to someone that can help determine if the ideation is real, or a call for attention. 

 

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18 minutes ago, Ghost of Snead said:

 

This ... maybe Grayson was in such much pain that a phone call to one of his/any support group wouldn't have helped. Obviously, being around his friends, caddie & other folks on the PGAT didn't prevent what happened. None of us have walked a mile in Grayson's shoes and we will never know the history and actual circumstances. Sadly, on the call/video with Gary WIlliams in Jan '24, Grayson mentioned his parents would now never get that call that he had ended things.

 

 

 

Man. I missed that at the time.  Enormous red flag.  🚩 wow.  This hindsight business is double edged.  But I’m in agreement with you.  I’m not sure there’s a surefire fix even with the advantage of hindsight.  

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11 minutes ago, Ghost of Snead said:

 

A little more perspective from Gary - 

 

Just For Today (5clubsgolf.com)

So good.  Man.  So good.  Thank you for  that link.  

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When your identity is golf and you perform poorly or things don’t go your way you can quickly spiral. 
 

He was 5 over on his round when he walked off, and 3 of those were his last 3 holes. 
 

I’m quoting Grayson above btw. No matter how well someone thinks they are, how they’ve overcome their own demons and depression, a bad event can trigger a spiral and they’re back where they thought they wouldn’t be again and they can end it. 
 

Rest easy Grayson. 

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