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Hey Golfers, 

 

 

For some reason I tend to hit more greens from fairway bunkers than I do from the darn fairway. 
 

from 100 to 150 yards (with no crazy lip to get over) I tend to hit the green with better shots than I do from the fairway as a percentage. 
 

Now I don’t have the actual data but it’s become evident over the last month or so. If I’m in a bunker with no funkiness going on I have a better chance of GIR than if I was in the fairway. 
 

Today, in a state qualifier, i was 2/2 from 100 to 150 GIRS from Bunkers 

 

i was 3/6 from 100 to 150 from the fairway. 
 

I have alot of rounds with higher GIR % from bunker than fairway. 
 

my theories are: 

 

concentrating more on good contact and less on swing technique. 
 

the loose footing makes me balance better or something. 
 

im crazy and it’s all in my head. 
 


 

 

 

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Educated guess; most people sequence poorly because in the backswing they shift too much/too long/too late into their trail side, and bunkers with their potentially unstable footing and demand for ball first contact will make some people intuitively shift *less* and stay more centered, which for the over/improper shifter accidentally moves you towards a "better" sequence, or at least one that has fewer of the bad elements. Folks that never properly get into their front side from the fairway can suddenly be much better at it with these limitations. 

A moment from one of the instruction YouTube channels stuck with me that was shared a while back in where one of these "over shifters" so to speak was made to feel like he was keeping *much* more weight loaded forward in his backswing simply to sequence "neutrally". Bunkers kinda force that on you a bit. 

Incidentally I think this is why people that self instruct end up improving when they claim to move to a "Stack and Tilt" approach. They balance one extreme with another and end up closer to the middle, and therefore more "neutral" and thus better then before. 

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6 hours ago, Valtiel said:

Educated guess; most people sequence poorly because in the backswing they shift too much/too long/too late into their trail side, and bunkers with their potentially unstable footing and demand for ball first contact will make some people intuitively shift *less* and stay more centered, which for the over/improper shifter accidentally moves you towards a "better" sequence, or at least one that has fewer of the bad elements. Folks that never properly get into their front side from the fairway can suddenly be much better at it with these limitations. 

A moment from one of the instruction YouTube channels stuck with me that was shared a while back in where one of these "over shifters" so to speak was made to feel like he was keeping *much* more weight loaded forward in his backswing simply to sequence "neutrally". Bunkers kinda force that on you a bit. 

Incidentally I think this is why people that self instruct end up improving when they claim to move to a "Stack and Tilt" approach. They balance one extreme with another and up closer to the middle, and therefore more "neutral" and thus better then before. 


This all makes sense. 
 

OP, when you approach from the fairway do you normally choose your club based on your max distance with that stick? If your PW is a 130 club and the shot is 132 pin, do you smash the PW or smooth a 9i? 
 

Most of us would be more accurate on approach if we took the longer club and made a very controlled swing. I think most players default to the opposite approach. We think “this is a perfect PW” without stopping to consider what “perfect” actually means. 

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2 minutes ago, me05501 said:

OP, when you approach from the fairway do you normally choose your club based on your max distance with that stick? If your PW is a 130 club and the shot is 132 pin, do you smash the PW or smooth a 9i? 

This is a good point. I base it off of where the pin is located in relation to the green ( front, back middle) and choose the club based on that. In your example If the Pin was in the back Id hit PW and it was in the front Id prolly do a small 9. So if I'm short with the PW I'm on the green and if I'm long with the 9 I'm on the green.  I have a huge fear of being long as long seems to be death at most places. 

 

Out of the bunker I always club up. Good point

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6 hours ago, Valtiel said:

Educated guess; most people sequence poorly because in the backswing they shift too much/too long/too late into their trail side, and bunkers with their potentially unstable footing and demand for ball first contact will make some people intuitively shift *less* and stay more centered, which for the over/improper shifter accidentally moves you towards a "better" sequence, or at least one that has fewer of the bad elements. Folks that never properly get into their front side from the fairway can suddenly be much better at it with these limitations. 

 

I know I have poor sequencing. So this could be the nail on the head. Good points. 

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1 minute ago, skim4 said:

I know I have poor sequencing. So this could be the nail on the head. Good points. 


Possibly! And @me05501 made a great point as well that touches on similar things. When you club up and swing easier you'll also tend to do what I said as well; less "bad" if sequencing and shifting are your problems. Double that up in a bunker for the reasons I mentioned above and the effect is even greater.

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I do this as recent as last year. Take more club and judge the shot and seems to work out much better. Alot of factors drop shot distance... perfect strike, wind, how the ball is sitting, above level pin or below. One factor does not effect all this... sand. Just kidding of course lol a flat sand lie in some powdery or compact but not super wet sand is usually pretty easy to advance the ball out of no matter the distance to hole. 

I think knowing you can fully blast a fairway bunker shot without having to worry or think you might blade one over the green is also a factor. 

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