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I currently have a Ping G400 LST 8.5  and a G400 9* Max. I love the forgiveness and accuracy of the Max but it just launches to high and spins to much, especially in any kind of wind. I like the trajectory and spin of the LST, but its just nowhere close in forgiveness as the Max. So im thinking that maybe the newer g430 10k will give me a perfect blend of the 2 heads.

 

So mainly looking for anyone that has hit both the g400 LST and the 430 10k and how they compared with launch and spin?

 

Easy choice would be to just go with the 430 LST, but im thinking I would prefer the 10k if its more forgiving.

Any help would be great.

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The 430 max will likely still give you similar high launch and spin.  Try the 430 LST--this LST version is surprisingly a lot more forgiving than previous LST versions.  I found the 430 max and 430 LST to be pretty close in forgiveness but the LST performed better: lower spin, slightly lower launch.  YMMV.

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A thread that seems addressed to me.

 

Own a G400LST 8.5 with Tour65R, fit by Ping.   Have had it for years, and nothing I tried has been able to best it.    At first glance based on my mid 90s swing speed I'm not who usually is fit into LST, but the numbers were best and the standard and max heads gave me too much spin.

 

Read good things about the 430LST.   For my sub 100 swing speed it's a much different animal.   Even in a 10.5 head I struggled to get it in the air as easily as the 400LST at 8.5.   

 

Enter the Max 10k with TourChrome 2.0.   For me it launches a little higher than the 400LST and spins a touch less.   The head is a little shallower and I struggled a bit till I found the right tee height but once I did it's a much straighter club with a very similar flight on the best shots.   Best shots were comparable to those of the 400LST, the 10k seems to reduce the really bad ones.

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5 minutes ago, Titleist_LFF said:

So going from both of the above comments, the g430 LST is significantly more forgiving than the g400 LST? 

 

I think it's more forgiving, but not significantly so.   And the 430LST has the moveable weight in the back if that's something useful for you.   I found the neutral position best for me.

 

Coming from a 400LST you may also find like I did that the head feels a little heavier.

 

If sound is important, the 430LST is by far the best to my ears, followed by 400LST, then max10k.

 

 

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I recently hit the G430 10k and the G430 LST. Honestly I’ve never been a big fan of how Ping drivers felt/sounded. I think both of these performed better for me than the G400 LST (albeit indoors on a LM). 
 

Dispersion between the 10K and LST were negligible and spin/launch numbers were better with the LST. 
 

Now I’ve just got to find a lefty G430 LST head 😂

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im currently gaming both the 430LST in 10.5* and the 430 10K in 9*.   I have a bunch of shafts ( TPT Nitro 15Hi / TPT Red 16Hi/17Lo/16Lo Tenssei Pro Orange 60 ) that im rotating to find the perfect fit.  The 430LST feels better and looks more balanced to the eye, launch is slightly lower and spin is lower.  However the 10K sounds louder and more hollow and spin is close to perfect, it doesnt balloon into the wind but carries well and rolls out decently.  It is quite long and I dont see any distance gains with the LST over the 10K.  But I do find that the 10K has a smaller miss especially when I am late to the ball. On a side note, ball speed is a tick higher with the LST because I seem to be 1-2 mph faster in swing speed with the smaller head.

* the TM mini burner is my third option and it is a monster, if the Q10 is even longer and just as straight as the mini, I might have to change out totally.

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I currently have a G430 10K. Came from a G430 LST. I can say I don’t see a ton of difference in launch height. I see a touch less length with the 10K.  But my dispersion is way better. You just don’t get near the gear effect with the 10K. I would say the difference between a 10K and a G400 LST would be pretty noticeable in dispersion unless u strike center of face a majority of the time. 

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Agreed, the lst you must put your best swing on it at all times.  Wasn’t worth the extra couple yards, switched to 10k and life has been good. 

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430 Max 10K for me was one of the higher launching drivers i've tested. If you want to get away from high launch , probably not the club. 

 

430 LST---yes. 

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10k 9 degree 0 flat working just fine. 

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1 hour ago, woods991 said:

Agreed, the lst you must put your best swing on it at all times.  Wasn’t worth the extra couple yards, switched to 10k and life has been good. 

 

My experience as well. The LST is terrific—more forgiving than it deserves to be as a low spin driver. But it can punish you with a less than stellar swing. The 10K has the forgiveness you expect from the Max, with the lowish spin qualities you expect from the LST, but more forgiving than the LST, and better dispersion than the Max. The real deal.

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Well said, my spin numbers have been great with 10k and the forgiveness with the 10k makes this driver unique. 

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I'd go with the 10k--it's a bit of a unicorn.  I played the G400 LST in 10 degree, big minus.  I now have the G430 Max 10k in 9 degree, playing at big minus.  The 10k is about the same launch and spin as the G400 LST, but longer due to higher ball speed and waaaaaay more forgiving (both directionally and in retaining ball speed on less than perfect hits).  Really couldn't recommend the 10k more...

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