Ping Iron Problems

[cgroot1410]

I have had my I5 irons for about a year and a half now and I am getting ball marks on the toe side of center, which I would consider a slight mishit, but all my clubs are the same way, which means that's where I constantly and consistantly hit my irons. I'm a decent player with a 2.2 handicap. My shot type is a slight draw. When I purchased these clubs, they put my in a maroon fitting, 1/2" over standard - I'm 6'1". My question is, if I would send these back to ping, would they correct the clubs for me to make sure I am flushing every shot instead of slightly toeing it, I'm assuming a little less upright? And if so, what type of cost am I look at.

[taylormadefan]

Anything is possible but from what I understand heel / toe strikes are length of club issues. Left / right misses are typically lie angle issues.

 

Of course the best way to check this is with a dynamic fitting. Grip the club so it's a little longer and see if that corrects it with some impact tape on the face. If not get to a Ping retailer and try out their fitting cart until you get things centered up.

 

I belive it's only $35 for the set to send it back to Ping, get the lies bent, and they'll re-work your irons so they're good as new.

[cgroot1410]

Thanks for the info taylormadefan, anyone else??

[weten2]

I would highly recommend going to the Ping website and see if the Ping Tour demo van will be in your area and show this to them. There you can hit the clubs in front of them.

Maroon I beleive is the most upright lie they have. I'm not the low handicap you are however I was hitting on the toe often and a good fitter wanted me in a longer more upright club. My pro who worked at the same place said I was coming over the top and we should not mask the problem.

[mcputter]

I would agree that toe/heel hits would tend to be either a swing issue or length issue unless the lie angle is way off. If anything making the club flatter would encourage more of a toe hit.

[cgroot1410]

Any ping reps out there that have some info for me??

[frozen_rope]

go to www.pinggolf.com and use their iron webfit.

Wear street shoes when you do the height and wrist to floor measurement.

The web fit will give you the correct fit specs for your iron set.

 

I have had my I5 irons for about a year and a half now and I am getting ball marks on the toe side of center, which I would consider a slight mishit, but all my clubs are the same way, which means that's where I constantly and consistantly hit my irons. I'm a decent player with a 2.2 handicap. My shot type is a slight draw. When I purchased these clubs, they put my in a maroon fitting, 1/2" over standard - I'm 6'1". My question is, if I would send these back to ping, would they correct the clubs for me to make sure I am flushing every shot instead of slightly toeing it, I'm assuming a little less upright? And if so, what type of cost am I look at.

[wildwilly911]

go to www.pinggolf.com and use their iron webfit.

Wear street shoes when you do the height and wrist to floor measurement.

The web fit will give you the correct fit specs for your iron set.

 

thats a big misconception. i laugh when people say they were fit like that. so if im 6'2'' you can tell me what size cloths i nead to where, not a chance. the same goes for golf clubs.

 

 

 

as to your toe hits it sounds more like a swing plane issue. if all clubs are the same toe hits move a bit closer or have some one check your swing some thing is a bit off

[frozen_rope]

Actually, the OP was already fit wrong by a dynamic fitter. If he goes to another one he'll get a different set of specs, but still the wrong fit.

The common sense way to get fit is using static fitting. Karsten Solheim's set of static criteria has a scientific base and is tried and true.

 

thats a big misconception. i laugh when people say they were fit like that. so if im 6'2'' you can tell me what size cloths i nead to where, not a chance. the same goes for golf clubs.

 

 

 

as to your toe hits it sounds more like a swing plane issue. if all clubs are the same toe hits move a bit closer or have some one check your swing some thing is a bit off

[JCAG]

Do not get confused as many do.

 

Ball marks on the FACE indicate a LENGTH issue, not a lie issue.

Face hits toward the toe indicate to long a club and the golfer is reaching.

Face hits toward the heel indicate to short a club and the golfer is crowding the ball.

 

Marks on the SOLE, not the face, indicate LIE issues.

Marks on the sole toward the toe, the club is to flat and the toe must be raised as in making club more upright. Say 60* to 62*.

Marks on the sole toward the heel, the club is to upright and the toe must be lowered as in making the club flatter. Say 60* to 58*.

 

These answers are clubmaking answers, not swing change answers.

[schlebrock]

Do not get confused as many do.

 

Ball marks on the FACE indicate a LENGTH issue, not a lie issue.

Face hits toward the toe indicate to long a club and the golfer is reaching.

Face hits toward the heel indicate to short a club and the golfer is crowding the ball.

 

Marks on the SOLE, not the face, indicate LIE issues.

Marks on the sole toward the toe, the club is to flat and the toe must be raised as in making club more upright. Say 60* to 62*.

Marks on the sole toward the heel, the club is to upright and the toe must be lowered as in making the club flatter. Say 60* to 58*.

 

These answers are clubmaking answers, not swing change answers.

I'm really confused. ;)

 

Not saying that you're wrong but that's opposite of everything that I've ever heard from fitters, club pros, etc.

 

Can any other clubfitters chime in and confirm or deny these statements?

[JCAG]

MIT, SCH and ALL

 

I should have more coffee in the morning and/or less booze at night before I post..........LOL

 

LENGTH

 

If the golfer has a club that is to long and assumes their normal stance, yes they will hit the ball on the heel end of the face.

 

If the golfer has a club that is to short and assumes their normal stance, yes they will hit the ball on the toe end of the face.

 

Note the operative statement of "assumes their normal stance". If they do not assume their normal/comfortable stance and try to "adjust" to the club length (which my experience shows most will), then my original length statements stand.

 

That aside, this is why dynamic fitting is important. The correct length of a club is determined by the golfer being at their normal/comfortable stance (be it proper or not) and the ball hits being in the center of the club face. This is why I consider static (body measurement fitting) better then nothing but not as valid as dynamic (as in swing) fitting.

 

I thought I was doing a good job of keeping the 60* to 58 * of lie and the 60* to 62* of lie straight in my original post....LOL

 

I apologize to those that I may have "confused".

[cgroot1410]

So what I get from all these posts, the answer to my original question is that I need to get my sticks lengthened slightly. But I could be "confused" as well.

[hardyc]

sir, you can be hitting the ball on the toe and it can be a lie angle issue. THe steeper your swing angle is the more upright your clubs need to be. Some people with a very steep swing angle will hit every shot on the toe. The more upright you bend a club, the more left you will hit the ball also. SO if you play a slight draw, going more upright may cause you to hit a bigger draw. You need to go hit on a lie board with your clubs and see how you are contacting it. That should tell the tell. GL