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Diamana Stinger. Back for 2009!!


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Look at this beauty.
Stumbled across this on Tour Spec today. Not that is ever gonna see my bag, but boy is it pretty to look at.

$800!!!!

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Diamana has release an all new full boron prototype Stinger for Summer 2009. This new shaft features a profile and specs just like the new Diamana Kai'li with the difference being the material. Boron is a premium lightweight fiber that is 5 times as strong as steel. It is often used in parts of shaft manufacturing due to its high modulus characteristics to increase strength of a shaft and overall stability.

This new Diamana Full Boron Prototype will be all boron creating a shaft that compared to the typical graphite shaft, has thinner walls for feel but is considerably stronger equaling no energy loss and very very tight dispersion. This new prototype shaft will load and unload without twisting creating very low spin and very accurate drives thanks to its ability to quickly return to its original shape.

While it is still being referred to as "Prototype", the word "STINGER" is engraved on the shaft. This shaft is a beauty, with a jet black gloss like finish it looks like it is all business.

Each prototype shaft will be individually numbered and will be available in 60 Stiff (273cpm), 70 Stiff (278 cpm) and 70 X-Stiff (288 cpm) (raw cpm numbers) and torque numbers of 3.4 2.8 and 2.8* respectively with a mid-high kick for a lower trajectory. Tourspecgolf will have a limited number of these prototypes in stock in early August.

The legendary Tour Stinger is reborn!
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Has anybody hit this shaft?

Im thinking of giving one a go... Not sure if the CPM is accurate at 273 for S-Flex.

How does it perform??

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Is that serious, 278 CPM for stiff and 288 for X on the 70 gram version??? OUCH.

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It has to be a Prototype for the new Whiteboard. Well, what is to replace the Whiteboard if that's possible. I wouldn't mind one of these in a matte black finish & at a reasonable $300 price point.<br><br>
As far as the $800 price tag, I blame Matrix for making everyone think a shaft can be worth $1000.....

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[quote name='IM_ALL_IN' date='11 January 2010 - 11:16 AM' timestamp='1263172594' post='2173552']
Sweet looking but I'll never own one b/c

[quote name='willpeoples' date='10 January 2010 - 07:41 PM' timestamp='1263170502' post='2173480']
[size="4"][b]800 is insane![/b][/size]
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$800 is crazy... I have found a pullout for a sensible price

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[quote name='djhgolf' date='11 January 2010 - 05:58 PM' timestamp='1263207509' post='2174260']
[quote name='IM_ALL_IN' date='11 January 2010 - 11:16 AM' timestamp='1263172594' post='2173552']
Sweet looking but I'll never own one b/c

[quote name='willpeoples' date='10 January 2010 - 07:41 PM' timestamp='1263170502' post='2173480']
[size="4"][b]800 is insane![/b][/size]
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$800 is crazy... I have found a pullout for a sensible price
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How much did you pay for the pullout?

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To the best of my knowledge, this is not a replacement for the whiteboard like the kaili and or aili (however it's spelled). This shaft is expensive do to the use of boron. Apperently this stuff is pretty expensive. Oddly enough, I was able to hit one of these in a 5wood, and all I can say is STIFF. Great shaft if you can find a pull or pony up the money for a new one.

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I guess its 800 dollars because its all Boron and probably 50 or even 80t material. You will never ever find a shaft made of 80t material for less than 500 dollars. So, forget about buying something like this for 300 dollars, it will not happen. That will be a watered down model made of maybe 30t.

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Apparently Boron is 6 times more expensive than teh highest quality Carbon Fiber, and the prohibitive cost of Boron is the only reason its not more widely used. It has superior properties compared to Carbon Fibre in every way, strength, weight etc. But it is difficult and time consuming to make..
So if this shaft is 100 percent Boron, than 800 is actaully pretty cheap. Can it really be pure Boron? And not some sort of mix/hybrid material?

Boron was banned in F1 because only the biggest teams could afford to use it, so the use of Boron would give those teams an unfair advantage..So Graphite is the material of choice in F1 cars and cars in general, but only because its cheaper and in F1s case foridden.

Boron is extensively used in advanced military bombers and fighter jets.

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The last two posts talk up boron pretty good...the only thing missing are the actual touring professionals playing it. It might be a great material for other endeavors, but its worth has not been proven in golf.

Surely price is no matter for the top players. If it's so good, why isn't it being played? I don't think I've ever seen this stinger model in play, please correct me if I'm wrong.

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[quote name='IM_ALL_IN' timestamp='1280828056' post='2614921']
The last two posts talk up boron pretty good...the only thing missing are the actual touring professionals playing it. It might be a great material for other endeavors, but its worth has not been proven in golf.

Surely price is no matter for the top players. If it's so good, why isn't it being played? I don't think I've ever seen this stinger model in play, please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Boron has been used in shafts for a long time, Honma and the most expensive OZIKS come to mind, but never full boron. It has not been widely availble because of the difficulty of getting the material and the demands it puts on the people working with it, the cost and the different construction technique needed. This shaft claims to be pure boron, which is kinda sensational. It is already legendary though, Maybe this is the start of the "boron era".
Some say the amount of Boron availble in the market is not enough for mass producing golf shafts, and that the price would shoot up even more in the medium term if that were to happen, I dont know about that though.

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[quote name='IM_ALL_IN' timestamp='1280855483' post='2615584']
Sensational and legendary? Where are you coming up with this stuff? Nobody is playing boron shafts!!
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I meant that the Stinger shaft is legendary..Has a cult following etc etc. And why are you so upset an rude? Idiot, read this, its straight from the Matrix website you imbecile

Each OZIK TP-7 is made with Interply Hybrid Technology. Each piece is made from high modulus carbon graphite base. [b]This base is then wrapped with two full-length layers of 118-thread count Russian Boron[/b] at competing angles for impact stability. These metallic layers are covered by one layer of ballistic, photo-sensitive Japanese Zylon for enhanced feel and tensile strength. Each piece is then finished with GMAT, a unique new graphite from the United Kingdom, which serves as a “casing” for consistency and durability. Each of these OZIK shafts is built in the United States using a 12-step, 6-day, 9-person process that insures unmatched symmetry. For 2007, OZIK TP-7 shafts transition away from their initial “soft feel” finish to a high polish navy blue.

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[quote name='ChristianLA' timestamp='1280855750' post='2615596']
I meant that the Stinger shaft is legendary..Has a cult following etc etc. And why are you so upset an rude? Idiot, read this, its straight from the Matrix website you imbecile

Each OZIK TP-7 is made with Interply Hybrid Technology. Each piece is made from high modulus carbon graphite base. [b]This base is then wrapped with two full-length layers of 118-thread count Russian Boron[/b] at competing angles for impact stability. These metallic layers are covered by one layer of ballistic, photo-sensitive Japanese Zylon for enhanced feel and tensile strength. Each piece is then finished with GMAT, a unique new graphite from the United Kingdom, which serves as a "casing" for consistency and durability. Each of these OZIK shafts is built in the United States using a 12-step, 6-day, 9-person process that insures unmatched symmetry. For 2007, OZIK TP-7 shafts transition away from their initial "soft feel" finish to a high polish navy blue.
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Cult following?? Who is playing the shaft for the 1000th time!?!?! Who?

I don't care what matrix posts on their website. Their stuff is over hyped and waaaaay overpriced.

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[quote name='ChristianLA' timestamp='1280855750' post='2615596']
I meant that the Stinger shaft is legendary..Has a cult following etc etc. [b]And why are you so upset an rude? Idiot, read this, its straight from the Matrix website you imbecile[/b]
[/quote]

Contradict yourself much?

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[quote name='IM_ALL_IN' timestamp='1280855787' post='2615597']
BTW, this thread is a year old in case you didn't notice. Boron has been around for quite a while in the golf world too. Harrison had a shaft back in the day with a boron tip.
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So now you agree that boron has a use in shafts after all? Time to make up your mind maybe? So, the most expensive Ozik shaft uses boron as a critical part in its construction, so boron MIGHT be useful in shaft making. See the shaft above, see Honma, see OZIK TP. The OZIK has been widely used on tour by the way

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[quote name='Puppetmaster' timestamp='1280855996' post='2615603']
[quote name='ChristianLA' timestamp='1280855750' post='2615596']
I meant that the Stinger shaft is legendary..Has a cult following etc etc. [b]And why are you so upset an rude? Idiot, read this, its straight from the Matrix website you imbecile[/b]
[/quote]

Contradict yourself much?
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LOL, I know right. This guy is a clown.

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[quote name='ChristianLA' timestamp='1280856090' post='2615608']
[quote name='IM_ALL_IN' timestamp='1280855787' post='2615597']
BTW, this thread is a year old in case you didn't notice. Boron has been around for quite a while in the golf world too. Harrison had a shaft back in the day with a boron tip.
[/quote]

So now you agree that boron has a use in shafts after all? Time to make up your mind maybe? So, the most expensive Ozik shaft uses boron as a critical part in its construction, so boron MIGHT be useful in shaft making. See the shaft above, see Honma, see OZIK TP. The OZIK has been widely used on tour by the way
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No, where did I agree with that?

All I'm asking you to do is provide a few names of people playing boron shafts and you can't do it. Anthony Kim had one in the bag and then dumped it for a UST Mamaya Proforce AXIVCore Tour Greenwhich doesn't have any boron in it.

You're new here, so don't make yourself looked any dumber until you can come back with some names. I want to know who the "cult members" playing this "legendary" shaft are.

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