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What shaft is close to a PING ZZ-65 Stiff Shaft?


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I am currently playing PING ISI Nickel irons with PING stiff ZZ65 shafts. I really like these shafts. I am going to buy another set of irons ("cause I really need an extra set!) probably Mizuno MP-60. My question is, what shaft is the same or as close to the stiff ZZ-65?

 

Here is some more info on me:

 

Smooth tempo, more of a swinger, not a HITTER.

Handicap 14-15, no time to practice

Fairly consistent 70% or so.

Usually have a natural normal to slightly high ball flight, which I LIKE.

No launch monitor time, I can hit my 7 iron from 150 to 165 depending upon the conditons etc...

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I found this browsing online one day, I figured it'd come in handy some day:

CS-LITE (Regular & Stiff): Weight: 93.9 ®, 107.3 (S) Torque: 1.8 ®, 1.7 (S) Description: Lightweight steel shaft that has a mid flex point and a mid to soft tip section. A very common shaft found in the G2 and G5 series. Ball Flight: This shaft is designed to hit the ball the highest of all of the shafts offered at this flex.

 

Z-Z65 (Stiff): Weight: 108.8g Torque: 1.6 Description: An updated version of the ZZ-Lite. Lightweight steel shaft that has a high flex point and stiff tip section. This shaft is only offered in stiff. The Z-Z65 is similar in flex to a Dynamic Gold S300, but is much lighter in weight. A very common shaft in ISI irons through current iron offerings. Ball Flight: This shaft is designed for a mid-ball flight due to the weight. It should fly lower then the CS-Lite and higher then the DGS and DGX.

 

ZZ-LITE (Stiff): Weight: 115.0g Torque: 1.9 Description: Very similar to the Z-Z65 but heavier in weight. The ZZ-Lite has a high flex point and stiff tip section. A very common shaft in Eye 2 irons. Ball Flight: Same as the Z-Z65. (NOT available for new orders)

 

JZ (Regular & Stiff): Weight: 109.8g ®, 115.1g (S) Torque: 1.9 ® 1.7 (S) Description: A mid weight steel shaft that plays a little softer than the Z-Z65 and ZZ-Lite. A very common shaft in Zing, Zing 2, and ISI irons. Ball Flight: Due to the mid flex point of this shaft it is designed to hit the ball between the CS-Lite and the Z-Z65. (NOT available for new orders)

 

DGS (Stiff): Weight: 124.5g Torque: 1.5 Description: Dynamic Gold S-400. A heavy shaft with a high flex point and a stiff tip section. Ball Flight: Weight of this shaft should hit the ball lower then all of the shafts except the DGX.

 

DGX (X-Stiff): Weight: 122.8g Torque: 1.4 Description: Dynamic Gold X-100. A heavy shaft with a high flex point and a very stiff tip section. Ball Flight: This shaft is heavy and aimed at players with a high swing speed or quick tempo. The shaft should produce the lowest ball flight of all shafts listed.

 

KT & KT-M (Stiff): Weight: 106g Torque: 1.9 Description: A mid weight shaft with a high flex point and stiff tip section. These shafts are most commonly found in Eye2, and Zing irons. Ball Flight: Mid, similar to ZZ-Lite (NOT available for new orders)

 

Microtaper (Stiff): Weight: 115g Torque: 1.9 Description: A mid-weight shaft with a high flex point and stiff tip section. This shaft is very similar to the KT Shaft. Most commonly found in the K series, Eye, and Eye 2 irons. Ball Flight: Mid, similar to ZZ-Lite (NOT available for new orders)

 

 

DGSL 300 sounds like it'd be right up your alley if you like the feel, weight, and ballflight of the ZZ-65

 

 

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Every club I have ever hit with the TT DG 300 shift shaft I have HATED. I think this shaft is too stiff for me, and my ball flight is much lower. Would the DG L 300 perform better than the regular DG 300 stiff shaft?

Titleist TSi2 10* Driver Tensei Blue 55S
TM Sim2 Max 16.5* 3 wood Tensei Blue 60S

TM SIM2 Titanium 5 Wood Tensei Blue 65S

TM SIM2 MAx 4 Hybrid Ventus Stiff shaft
Ping G410 5-UW Alta Graphite Shafts
Vokey SM8 56* sand wedge, Vokey SM9 60* lob wedge
Black Lab Oil Can 350g custom grind by "Geo" putter

C&L 350 Milled Oil Can Putter (3 of them!)
 

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Every club I have ever hit with the TT DG 300 shift shaft I have HATED. I think this shaft is too stiff for me, and my ball flight is much lower. Would the DG L 300 perform better than the regular DG 300 stiff shaft?

 

Go to a Mizuno fitter when you buy, they should have a ton of shafts for you to try.

 

The DGSL's will be a lot lighter than the standard DG's. The ball flight however, will be very similar, perhaps a touch higher since you can swing faster, but it's still a high kick low ball flight shaft.

 

Another possibility to try is dynalite gold, it's a lighter shaft with a lower kick point than DG and may suit you better.

 

Also, give rifles a shot if you haven't already, they hit the ball higher than DG and have a much different feel some people prefer.

 

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I have played the zz-65 in i3, i3+ and s59s. started playing macgregor m675 blades with TT s300 shafts in them and have had titleist 690.cb with s300 shafts. I think the feel, flight and weight is just about exact.

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I don't know. I currently have Ping i5's with ZZ-65's soft-stepped and they seem stiffer to me. Also my tour wedges don't seem to have the feel that my backup 54 ping tour with DG S300 has.

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