TOUR PICS/ Hi-Bore/DL III shafts

[triputt]

1. What happened to the tour player bag pics?

 

2. Whats the status of tour usage w/ the hibore? i got one and its going to take some shaft tinkering for sure. feels solid but my 10.5 goes higher than my comp 10.5 w/ the same shaft. that goes against everything cleveland has been saying. if vijay is the only player using it, i'm afraid the hype is centered around 1 player who is payed extremely well for using that club. I thought after seeing him tee it off the deck in hawaii that there was actually something new and innovative. However, I don't see a dramatic change in tee height. I cant tee it much lower than i do w/ the comp.

 

3. Finally, davis probably switched to dyn gld at the masters to get more height on the ball. i would think project x would be a bad shaft choice where such a premium is placed on hitting high, soft landing iron shots. any thoughts?

[six00imola]

all the new drivers are just hype. buy what works.

 

davis love probably switch because dg is a much better shaft than project x which is also a benefactor of hype.

[Battenator12345]

I think jerry kelly plays the high bore cuz i saw him on TGC

[BridgestoneKevin]

How does a high ball flight go against what they said? It is suppose to be a high launch with low spin. It should go higher, but roll a lot more then a bal of that height.

[TuffKukae]

1. What happened to the tour player bag pics?

 

2. Whats the status of tour usage w/ the hibore? i got one and its going to take some shaft tinkering for sure. feels solid but my 10.5 goes higher than my comp 10.5 w/ the same shaft. that goes against everything cleveland has been saying. if vijay is the only player using it, i'm afraid the hype is centered around 1 player who is payed extremely well for using that club. I thought after seeing him tee it off the deck in hawaii that there was actually something new and innovative. However, I don't see a dramatic change in tee height. I cant tee it much lower than i do w/ the comp.

 

3. Finally, davis probably switched to dyn gld at the masters to get more height on the ball. i would think project x would be a bad shaft choice where such a premium is placed on hitting high, soft landing iron shots. any thoughts?

 

 

1. I guess no member went to the event to take pictures for us... Buy me a ticket and pay my hotel bills and I would be more then happy to cover next week. :)

 

2. Yes Vijay is the main man for the hi-bore, but he's a driver ho....so I'm not sure if that is good or bad. The one thing I can say in the physics behind the hi-bore make sense and possibly the only innovative thing out in drivers right now. I never liked TM's MWT technology.

 

3. He's been switching alot lately, he searching for consistency so why not try what he probabaly played most of his golfinfgcareer with.

[italianstallion]

The hi bore does launch high, I ended up hitting the 8.5 too high for my likings. It's a solid feeling driver, for sure, but unless you give me something lower than 8.5, I'm not going to buy it. Try out a lower loft, I've never hit a driver as high as I hit the hi bore.

[BarryMCokiner]

Triputt- Please don't take this the wrong way, but perhaps it is the way I am reading what it is you typed. Do you want a lower flying driver? The key thing with the HI-Bore is the HIGH launch, low spin. This driver is the only one out of the 50+ drivers I hit that I actually got fit for using the launch monitor. The #s I got were 14º-15º and 2450/2550 and that was in a net. Out on the course it really shines. Part of the "fitting" was which ball would also provide me the numbers which were optimum for me and my game.

 

Here in Flori-Duh we don't get much roll, if any but this driver provides the straightest and furthest carry of all the drivers I have hit/owned/swapped for/gave away/threw in the lake... If given the chance I'd suggest trying it out along with a launch monitor and somebody reading it that knows what they are doing. Everything being the same I wish you the best of luck in finding a driver that best fits YOUR game. Good Luck.

[markheardjr]

Maybe Davis is using the new Project X High Launch that is for sale in your golfsmith catalogs. Never even heard about em till they were in the catalog!

[dab36]

Ditto. Hit my friends Hi Bore; Jeez..........with the stock fuji stiff and 9.5 loft, Hit it to the moon. Didn't like it at all. Way higher traj then my Cleve 400 9.5 degree.

[plus1]

I am a high ball hitter & when I tried a 10.5 HiBore (the only one the shop had) I have never seen a higher ballflight off a driver. It took off like a harrier jet, it hovered straight up & then launched high. I had to loose 35 yards with the baloonig. IMO it's a Pile O' poo.

 

 

you need to check the loft on that 10.5! also if your a high hitter why evern contemplate the hi-bore? its like my granny hitting a xxx tipped 2 inches lol! This is a great driver that has surprizingly good feel. yes imo it launches high, even with the 8.5 loft, but i found that the spin rate stayed low = high bmbs that ran!

[zzmkdw]

As stated above...no one was at the tournament, so no pic's.

 

If you want your hi-bore to launch lower, try a shaft with a stiffer tip. I have always liked the fuji vista tour. It's only around a hundred bucks and keeps the ball down. Grab one quick, I think they have been discontinued.

 

Phil uses project x, so I think your third statement doesn't make a lot of sense.

[markheardjr]

If you want a low launching shaft I have just the thing. Anuntipped Harrison 1.4 Low Launch Pro Boron. Extra Hig Kick, 1.4° of torque, 294cpm's untipped, around 70 grams. I haven't even used it, I'm afraid of killing too many worms with their necks in the way!!! It takes away 40-60% of your backspin rpm's, you wanna talk about low spin!!! I have the 2.5 to match, but haven't tried it either.

 

kinda like the one on top of this page, but a tour only pro boron model that is gray and blue.

 

http://www.harrison.com/trajectory.htm

[pingshack22]

If you go to the Cleveland Golf website it tells what all their staff player's use. There are a number of guys using the Hi-Bore.

[Johnny]

If you want a low launching shaft I have just the thing. Anuntipped Harrison 1.4 Low Launch Pro Boron. Extra Hig Kick, 1.4° of torque, 294cpm's untipped, around 70 grams. I haven't even used it, I'm afraid of killing too many worms with their necks in the way!!! It takes away 40-60% of your backspin rpm's, you wanna talk about low spin!!! I have the 2.5 to match, but haven't tried it either.

 

kinda like the one on top of this page, but a tour only pro boron model that is gray and blue.

 

http://www.harrison.com/trajectory.htm

 

 

fujikura BW95....

[sandy]

all the new drivers are just hype. buy what works.

 

davis love probably switch because dg is a much better shaft than project x which is also a benefactor of hype.

 

Looks like that project X hype factor was in effect for Phil again. Maybe Davis should have stayed with them and benefited from the hype like phil did.

[themouth1]

Looks like that project X hype factor was in effect for Phil again. Maybe Davis should have stayed with them and benefited from the hype like phil did.

 

:golfer: (cool) :D

 

There are some other great players using them as well. At the moment I can only think of Appleby, Els and Toms...PGA tour players don't buy into hype (at least the successful ones), they play what works.

[Moodicious]

If the Hi-Bore is only like 350cc's, then why doesn't Cleveland make it massive. I thought the original intent of the Hi-Bore was so the club head could be bigger.

[tarik]

I'm pretty sure that the Hibore is a 460cc. I beleive they started with something around a 500cc head and it was "scooped" out to 460.

[matt411]

Hibore is between 340 and 350 cc's.

[PARIO]

doesnt tim clark use project x as well?

[dannypharvey]

if you look at hi-bore at address then you will see why the cc has to be low. the thing is massive! it is noticably bigger than Cleveland's other 460cc drivers. if they made it 460cc with the 'scooped' shape then it would be unplayable, it would be like swinging a beach ball on a broom stick!!

[sandy]

Hi Bore is 380 cc. Put it in a ml beaker and the water level raises by 375-380 ml. They started with a 520 cc "chassis" and scooped it out. If you were to fill the top in it would measure 460. I did this with plastic with just a small amount of "bulge". Looks a little odd though filled in.