22 degree hybrid vs. 4 iron

[Javitron]

what's the distance gap?

Will the distance gap between a 22 degree hybrid and a 4 iron be too close?

I'm looking to work on my long-game clubs and was thinking about going with a strong 3 wood, and 18 & 22 degree hybrids (and ditching the 3 iron). Does this make sense?

[jwolf778699]

Page 108 of Golf Digest this month answers your question using 23 hybrid. Hybrid 23 degree is about 10 yards longer. Ditch the 3 and 4 iron

[11coachnd]

I took out the 3 and 4 iron and added a 4 hybrid 22 degree, I have never looked back!!!

[rlynham]

[quote name='Javitron' date='21 January 2010 - 11:11 PM' timestamp='1264126277' post='2196167']
Will the distance gap between a 22 degree hybrid and a 4 iron be too close?

I'm looking to work on my long-game clubs and was thinking about going with a strong 3 wood, and 18 & 22 degree hybrids (and ditching the 3 iron). Does this make sense?


[/quote]

it obviously depends on the model but in general i would say a 22* hybrid will go as far as if not farther than a 3 iron. I have a 23* idea pro that goes as far as my 3 iron.

[BigLeftyinAZ]

I still use my 4 iron,but I do use 2 hybrids. A 22* 4 hybrid,but the playing length of a 3 hybrid then a 17* hybrid

[Javitron]

I have a bunch of hybrid heads and I'm trying to figure out which I should us and which I should sell.

I have Adams Peanut 1s in 16 and 22 (and thinking of buying a 20 degree... club ho). And I have an Adams Peanut 2 in an 18 degree. I would love to ditch the 3 iron and have a long hitting hybrid.

So it seems that i should go with the 18 and 22 degree set up or 16 and 20 degree set up.... or 18 and 20??? I don't want to ditch my 4 iron.

[Britboy]

I carry a 22 hybrid (as well as a 19) and a 4 iron.

I would say that in windless conditions off a fairway I can probably hit the hybrid a bit farther but I like having both for playing in the real world.

I think it's important to consider the course and conditions that you play on any given day. For example I would no more hit a full 22 hybrid into a 20mph wind than I would take my putter !! However for a poor lie in the rough the hybrid is awesome to gouge it out and get some distance.

So in try wrx tradition I would say get both and then take your pick

[billybaroo]

My 23* 4h is ~10-15 yards longer than my 24* 4i. The longer and lighter shaft of the hybrid is likely the biggest source of the additional distances. YMMV...

[rlynham]

[quote name='Javitron' date='22 January 2010 - 03:11 AM' timestamp='1264140671' post='2196485']
I have a bunch of hybrid heads and I'm trying to figure out which I should us and which I should sell.

I have Adams Peanut 1s in 16 and 22 (and thinking of buying a 20 degree... club ho). And I have an Adams Peanut 2 in an 18 degree. I would love to ditch the 3 iron and have a long hitting hybrid.

So it seems that i should go with the 18 and 22 degree set up or 16 and 20 degree set up.... or 18 and 20??? I don't want to ditch my 4 iron.
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I would say sell the 16 and keep the other 2. I have tried an Idea Pro 16. It goes very low and i didn't really gain much distance over my 19* hybrid.

I think it is a safe bet that the 22* hybrid will go at least a club farther than a 4 iron.

[bobcat]

I carry TM 19* and 22* Rescue-Mid TP hybrids and Mizuno MP-32 irons,(4-PW). The hybrids have Fujikura Vista Pro 90 graphite shafts, while the irons are PX-5.5 Flex. (I tipped the 22* hybrid 1/2" to bring the trajectory down a bit and also added shaft length. I play the 22* hybrid at 40.5" which is a full 2-inches longer than my 4-iron. (My 4-iron is 38.5" in length).

No conflicts as the hybrid goes much futher, 200-210 yards. I hit my 4-iron 185-190.

[Javitron]

so it sounds like an 18 & 22 degree hybrid set up will work.

Is an 18 & 20 degree set up worth it? Is there a big enough gap in distance between these two clubs???

[Sublime40]

I play KZG irons and U-Irons (Hybrids). The setup my builder put me in was: 22* hybrid, 26* hybrid and 5 iron bent to 28* to try to achieve 10 yard gaps. All are set in steel shafts and lengths are stepped up like a normal iron set. No graphite on the hybrids. You might check the loft on your 4 iron. The sets can vary 2 and 3 degrees depending on the builder. "Ours are the longest irons." Yeah, because your lofts are the strongest.

[EngGolf]

I've gone back and forth between 4 iron and 4 hybrid over the years. It used to be a tough call to commit to either one, but in recent years equipment companies have produced some awesome traditional 4 iron replacements. I currently use the Mizuno MP-H4 4 iron and love it to death! Honestly the 4 iron in the Ping i25 set is awesome too. Adams has some new "Driving hybrids" that look promising.

[dt2511]

Ive replaced my 3,4,5 with x2hot hybrids. The only one that I have any level of conflictedness about is the 5 - still a little back and forth on that one, but no doubt that replacing the 3i and 4i is a good call.

[LouLogsdon]

my 22 hybrid is about 10 yards longer than my 4 iron

[Pigems]

I'm having this same debate with myself right now also, I've replaced my 3 iron with a 19* Hybrid, now I'm thinking about replacing my 4 iron with the 22* Hybrid also. Both the hybrids are cut down to iron length with graphite shafts.

[sccardslax05]

Seem to be right there with a lot of other people posting, carrying a 19* and 22* hybrid along with a 4 iron. My gaps from 3 wood down to 4 iron seem to be a nice 15 yard gap between each club in the set of 4.

[Argonne69]

[quote name='Javitron' timestamp='1264192191' post='2197420']
so it sounds like an 18 & 22 degree hybrid set up will work.

Is an 18 & 20 degree set up worth it? Is there a big enough gap in distance between these two clubs???
[/quote]

For most players, I'd say the answer is "no". Choking down an inch on the 18 should give you similar distances. I'd use the extra slot for another wedge.

[azgreg]

If you leave the hybrids stock sure they go approx. 10 yards further than the corresponding iron. However, if you build it to the specs of the iron you would like it to replace (same shaft, length, and loft) they go approx. the same distance.

[staysober for golf]

Long iron game is dead, dhy and hybrids is the way to go and i even have a 5 wood for the really long course to mix in there between 2h and 3 wood.

[staysober for golf]

[quote name='EngGolf' timestamp='1402429079' post='9468375']I've gone back and forth between 4 iron and 4 hybrid over the years. It used to be a tough call to commit to either one, but in recent years equipment companies have produced some awesome traditional 4 iron replacements. I currently use the Mizuno MP-H4 4 iron and love it to death! Honestly the 4 iron in the Ping i25 set is awesome too. Adams has some new "Driving hybrids" that look promising.[/quote]

I love my 4 iron replacement, and the shaft is just butter.

Am not long but i get 200 yards from the fairway to green but i play it as a 190 yard club.

So when my gps states 193 to the back of the green i swing smooth and its usually there for a birdie putt.

[staysober for golf]

[quote name='Pigems' timestamp='1402433165' post='9468791']I'm having this same debate with myself right now also, I've replaced my 3 iron with a 19* Hybrid, now I'm thinking about replacing my 4 iron with the 22* Hybrid also. Both the hybrids are cut down to iron length with graphite shafts.[/quote]

I like 17/21 and no 4 iron. juice up the 5 loft wise or shaft length and its way better.

[staysober for golf]

[quote name='bobcat' timestamp='1264174573' post='2196841']I carry TM 19* and 22* Rescue-Mid TP hybrids and Mizuno MP-32 irons,(4-PW). The hybrids have Fujikura Vista Pro 90 graphite shafts, while the irons are PX-5.5 Flex. (I tipped the 22* hybrid 1/2" to bring the trajectory down a bit and also added shaft length. I play the 22* hybrid at 40.5" which is a full 2-inches longer than my 4-iron. (My 4-iron is 38.5" in length).

No conflicts as the hybrid goes much futher, 200-210 yards. I hit my 4-iron 185-190.

[/quote]

Yeah, 185 4i just like me but mine didn't fly high enough so i killed it.

Adams dhy is like cheating, my hips turn and fire by them self its cheating i tell you. Lol

[wiley1kinobe]

If you're dead set on keeping your 4 iron, just use an 18* fairway wood and your 4i. You can choke down on the wood for the in between distances and not putting a 20* allows you another wedge

[callawayjay]

[quote name='LouLogsdon' timestamp='1402431653' post='9468681']
my 22 hybrid is about 10 yards longer than my 4 iron
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Which is why my 4 iron distance hybrid is 24*

[Tiptx1122]

I going to try this as it makes good sense. Driver 10.5* strong 3 13* 5W 18* and 4 hybrid 22* gaps covered nicely. Lofts on my irons are strong so yeah, I have room for 1 more club which I don't feel that I really need.

[Forged4ever]

Hi J, I hope that all's well. Excuse me if I repeat anything already posted though I do not like to read others' thoughts and/or opinions prior to posting mine, lol. Another quirk of mine, lol

You might want to hit both a 22° and say, a 23-25° lofted hybrid to make sure that, regardless of the loft or club number on the sole, that the appropriate gap is being covered.

I've found that usually a, say 21-22° iron, is covered by a 24-25° hybrid, gap wise. Basically, it equates to a club's difference between the two, depending both on the style(say Players vs GI) and of course, how ya hit it.

The Best with your search!

Have a great season My Friend

Fairways & Greens,
Richard

[tradpl]

The difference between 4I and 22*H depends on several factors. The loft of 4I for a starter. The length of 22*H. And the swing speed - higher SS means more difference.

[superman912]

I carry a 4i at 24* and a 23* 913Hd. 4i is good for 215, and 23* hybrid is good for 230 on the dot. The hybrid will go higher with less spin...generally 10 yards more than the equivalent iron. Next club is 18.5* 5 wood.

[prestiege]

[quote name='superman912' timestamp='1402787704' post='9496719']
I carry a 4i at 24* and a 23* 913Hd. 4i is good for 215, and 23* hybrid is good for 230 on the dot. The hybrid will go higher with less spin...generally 10 yards more than the equivalent iron. Next club is 18.5* 5 wood.
[/quote]

same here, 19* 913h/kiyoshi purple(245-250), 23* original pro black pxi at 3 iron length(225-230), 24* 4i(215),

couple years ago, i had the 26* pro black that i used as 4I replacement and it was a perfect replacement distance wise