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I have literally been working so hard to making my swing look like ser
and it's finally paying off...! Everything, and I mean everything, revolves around more upper body movement and passive arms.

I literally spent two hours ingraining the sergio garcia takeaway and halfway back point - and striking balls from this point. I haven't yet worked on wrist **** because I didn't want to focus on hands - and that was my problem before - too much hands. I tended to wrist **** or become active with my hands too too early on my back swing, which created so many darn problems.

Finally, progress is being made. I'm seriously excited.

Seriously. Passive arms. All upper body. Solid legs. That is my key.
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I'm glad that you're excited about your swing changes and hope they work for you. However, like everyone else I do hope that you go out and get a lesson from a pro.

 

I was guilty of making the same "mistake" of copying my swing to a pro female player :crazy: that I will not mention ;) and was adding a few other others' in there as well. :yahoo: I saw a swing coach and they corrected that quick, fast and in a hurry. Now my swing is uniquely mine and working just fine. (I wasn't trying to rhyme, guys, it just came out that way. :vava: :) )

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your body type is yours, your swing is your, with that being said there are few things that I take from yhe pros swings when I am teaching but I still must build the students swing to fit him and not someone else. having a trained eye look at your golf swing and give you feedback that you can'yu feel or see is the best for you at this time to make sure you are not training your self bad habits.

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I understand and thanks for commenting, but here's the deal.

 

My reference to looking like sergio on his swing has merit. As I mentioned in my initial post, I am (right now) only trying to work on the takeaway. More body, less arms. I had a tendency to separate arms from body on my takeaway. When you watch Sergio's swing, it looks like it's all arms and little body, but it's not. Watching another's swing and analyzing it is different from asking them what their feeling is when they're working on a particular swing thought.

 

Secondly, I do work on a bit of a "held wrist **** angle" on the down swing, but it's minimal for now because I wanted to only focus on the takeaway, more body, less arms motion.

 

Third, I am of similar build to Sergio - height weight and body shape. I'm not 6'4" 250, nor am I 5'7" 200.

 

4th, I do use a camera. My routine is that I work on a drill, watch it on film to make sure my swing thought matches what I see on video, and then I do this routine again. There's also a windowed wall behind every range stall and it acts like a mirror. Helps immensely.

 

5th, I swim. Swimming as a sport is a far more difficult sport technique wise than golf. If you don't believe me, try become a graceful, efficient swimmer with speed and good technique. It's difficult. Plus, you fatigue alot quicker. Golf is nothing compared to swimming.

 

I am a technique and rhythm freak. I try to work on technique and rhythm in every sport. I don't believe in the "do what works for you". If everyone had done that, they wouldn't be maximizing their standards or their skill level.

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Watching the guys at the Memorial (can't wait) each year, I am awestruck by how compact their swings are. Very simple, very clean. That is the sort of thing I try to adopt from their "model swings". Focusing on maintaining axis of rotation is good (mentioned above). Adopting a similar pre-swing routine is good.

 

It is, however, a bit risky to take an individual swing that is obviously a bit eccentric or unique (like Garcia's lag, or Furyk's loop, or Hogan's weak grip) and try to emulate it. It's not going to work for everyone. That's not to say it can't be done, or that it shouldn't be done... but everyone seems to agree that it is a highly challenging proposition with reduced likelihood of reward.

 

Good luck with it. Let us know how it turns out.

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In response to the thread title 'do you spend hours on the range ingraining a swing thought', there is no definitive answer. Having done a good amount of teaching however there is one rule I work by that is absolutely true. If a player doesn't 'get' a change within 3 swings using the prescribed swing thought/move, no amount of ball beating will achieve the desired result. It's black and white, they get it or they don't, if they don't you find a move they can implement. In my experience 20 minutes practicing what is instantly achievable is far more beneficial than 4 hours slogging your guts out to 'ingrain' something your brain/body don't want you to do!!

 

So, yes you can spend hours repeating something you are capable of. Best of luck to anyone who spends hours searching for what feel/looks right!

 

Another point

 

"5th, I swim. Swimming as a sport is a far more difficult sport technique wise than golf. If you don't believe me, try become a graceful, efficient swimmer with speed and good technique. It's difficult. Plus, you fatigue alot quicker. Golf is nothing compared to swimming."

 

Wow, that is a bold statement!

 

As a Professional golfer whose partner is a nationally accredited swimming coach I have to disagree on this point.

 

Swimming is not an easy sport to excel at undoubtedly, but once you develop good range of motion, learn about aerodynamics and basic stroke technique in addition to gaining a good 'feel' for the water the harder you train the more you get out. Achieving speed is then a case of better stroke efficiency i.e more distance travelled per stroke cycle and stroke rate.

 

This in comparison to hitting a ball with an implement travelling at speeds in excess of 100mph at a target over 200 yards away with a clubface rotating from 90 degrees open to the target line to square to 90 degrees closed to the same line knowing that every degree you are out at impact equates to 5-10 yards off target...... and that's just one approach shot...

 

Yes swimming is physically harder, being a cardiovascular pastime of course it is. But technically more difficult? No.

 

And now I aplogise having got that out of my system. Sorry to go on!

 

p.s regarding a good coach - some are unfortunately just too lazy to treat every lesson as a new one, as a result attempting to apply the same thoughts to every pupil. All good coaches have a method based on fundamental principles, some just can't be bothered to look for the most important fault/characteristic in an individual.

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