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I got a tip from Dean Reinmuth.


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Tell me what you think.
He was giving a clinic and I was lucky enough to be selected for a quick swing analysis.

Here's what he told me:

Solid setup, solid grip.

Good backswing, compact and no overswing.

Here's the problem...he says that I start my downswing with my lower body as I should but then it's like my hips stop turning about halfway down and then my upper body races through. He said this will cause me to fight an over the top move and cause misses to the left and right (I fight a hook) and said that I need to work on my hip turn through impact. He said my swing was like 20% lower body and 80% upper body and it should be the other way around.

This was his tip for me.

He told me to visualize a pencil sticking out of my belly button and when I get to the top of my backswing the pencil will be pointing somewhere behind the ball and my left arm will be comfortably at the top of my swing. Then on the downswing I need to make sure that my belly button (or pencil) out-races my left arm...that my left arm should never pass my belly button on the downswing. When I make my normal swing I see what he means...my belly button gets back to the starting position and stops there while my shoulders and arms continue through impact and around to my follow-through.

Tell me what you guys think...I haven't really had a chance to try it at the range but would enjoy reading everyone's thoughts on this tip.

Thanks.
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Hmm . . .

 

I understand what Reinmuth is saying, and it's an easy image to keep, but a difficult one to put into practice.

 

I struggled with this big time (when I hit a hook active arms are still the culprit). I'm a big feel player, and the biggest thing that helped me FEEL the sensation of leaving my arms behind while my hips and shoulders move the club is taking the club back to hip high and having someone hold the club while I turned my hips, torso, and shoulders through, and they release the club at hte last second. I also took a piece of resistance tubing and use that to tied off to a door knob to mimic this same feel at home.

 

I feel your pain man, but those two drills helped me a lot.

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He mentioned something like the tubing too....I think he said to imagine there was tubing connected to the butt of the club and my left hip and when I get to the top of my swing the tubing would be tight and then I would have to keep it tight throughout the swing. If my hands got too quick the tube would get slack and that would equal a hook. I think it was something like that but I was concentrating on picturing a pencil sticking out of my belly button at the time and didn't catch it all.

 

Thanks for the ideas for some drills.....I'm going to do some work at home tonight in front of the mirror and hopefully can work on it at the range tomorrow.

 

All this time that I've been playing and taking lessons and working hard I've never had anyone tell me that my hips weren't turning through correctly. It's kind of frustrating...especially since I've had about 10 lessons over the past year (with 3 different instructors). What a waste!

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All this time that I've been playing and taking lessons and working hard I've never had anyone tell me that my hips weren't turning through correctly. It's kind of frustrating...especially since I've had about 10 lessons over the past year (with 3 different instructors). What a waste!

 

There's the rub, I'm not sure, but from your previous posts, it sounds like you're getting pulled in about ten different directions advise wise.

 

Golf's a tough game, and a swing change is no fun, ask anyone who's been through one. I've been working seriously on the Hardy One plane approach since October of this year. At first my scores have went WAY up (I didn't break 100 the whole months of December and January), some days I looked like I hadn't ever touched a golf club in my life. I came a hair away from selling my golf clubs and switching instructors several times. However, bit by bit, i started figuring out what I should be feeling and the pieces started falling in place. I'm not there yet, but I go through some streaks where I feel like I can't miss with my irons and driver.

 

If you want to make a swing change, I think you need to stick with one instructor / system and understand that your scores may go up initially. That may mean taking a break from the money games and competition for a while. Like the saying goes, "too many cooks spoil the soup." Golf's a tough enough sport as is, no sense complicating things with too much info. :)

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I totally agree man...my problem is that I'm trying to find a GOOD instructor and so far I'm not having any luck.

 

First there was this guy that taught "toe up to toe up".....which I understand but he didn't even really look at my swing or take note of any of the good or bad things that I did in my swing. It was almost like he wasn't even really paying attention to me...like he was just reading steps out of a book or something. He would say good shot or good swing no matter how I hit the ball. So that was the first and last lesson I had with that guy.

 

Then there was the next guy who told me to keep my hips and shoulders level with the ground and keep my spine perpendicular to the ground...he didn't want any 'angles' in my setup or swing. He taught the swing in a barrel method and also had me swinging with a towel under both armpits. I tried that for a while but I just felt like I needed a little bit of spine angle...every good player has a little spine tilt at setup and I was having trouble getting the ball airborne his way. I did a few lessons with him...he was ok and I did learn a few things about my swing from him but I just didn't like his style.

 

The last guy I had lessons with came highly recommended and was very expensive. I bought a 5 lesson package with him and he basically told me everything opposite of what the other guy said. He put me on video and used a video of Stewart Applebee to show me where I needed to be. I'm not built like Stewart Applebee (far from it) but some of the stuff he was teaching had merritt. He helped me get my swing on plane going back but after 5 lessons I'm disappointed that he never mentioned my hip turn. Dean Reinmuth noticed it after watching me hit about 5 8 irons...then he showed it to me on video so I could actually see what I was doing wrong.

 

Too bad I can't afford to see him....$$$$

 

I've been trying to stick with my own swing and just work from there but I sure wish I could find a good instructor that I could stick with and see every couple of weeks. I wish Slicefixer made house calls :)

 

Thanks for the input and encouragement...and good luck with your own game.

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portz,

 

I've got a teaching aid I developed......easy to make.........3' or so length of surgical tubing......tie one end to the top of the grip.......tight.......then run the other end through the first belt loop left of your belt buckle......then through the next one.........tie it to the next.......you want to stretch it so that it's got slack at address, but, is pretty "taut" at the top of your backswing......and your backswing "armswing" should be VERY "synchronized" and "wide"........turn it back to the top.......then let the actions of the left side of your body work the butt of the club/and your arms down and left.......you WILL lose the "tension" about midway down in the downswing, but, just keep using your left side in the same manner well into the throughswing......

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Awesome idea...thanks Slicefixer. I'll take care of that today and can't wait to try it.

 

I'll give you some feedback after I give it a shot.

 

I'm excited....this is the first time in a long time that I'm SURE about fixing a swing flaw.

 

I'm the kind of guy that tends to over-do things that instructors tell me.....can you give me some indicators that I'm overdoing the hip turn? Can it be over-done?

 

For now....since I've been doing it the other way for so long....I'm just going to work on getting a FULL release of my hips. I guess I was only going halfway and stopping before but after doing some work in the mirror last night I can really feel the stretch in my hips. I can tell that it's a new feeling for me and those muscles so hopefully it doesn't take too long for it to feel more natural.

 

Thanks.

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