Hogan's supination

[eightiron]

This is a comedy surely, If Hogan rolled his left forearm and didn't "cup" his left wrist / combined with pitch elbow plus the weaker left hand ... where would he have ended up ? I'm thinking flat as heck with a bowed left wrist in transition and hitting smother hooks as a general shot pattern

Glove??

[dap]

[quote name='eightiron' date='01 May 2010 - 03:49 PM' timestamp='1272692955' post='2411469']
This is a comedy surely, If Hogan rolled his left forearm and didn't "cup" his left wrist / combined with pitch elbow plus the weaker left hand ... where would he have ended up ? I'm thinking flat as heck with a bowed left wrist in transition and hitting smother hooks as a general shot pattern

Glove??
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I don't think many people would argue that he did have a slight cup and I think Dariusz J hit the nail on the head.That slight cup is not a deliberate cupping of the left wrist but the result of forearm clockwise pronation.The opposite would be counter clockwise pronation of the left forearm which naturally flattens/bow the left wrist.

[Dariusz J.]

Again...from the "Life Magazine" article:

"When the secret is applied the left wrist bends [b]backward and inward[/b] forming a slight V".

Such a phenomenon can happen only during pronation of the forearm - BTW, the word Hogan used multiple times in the article. It seems quite obvious that pronation is the culprit and not the viceversa.

Cheers

[Dariusz J.]

[quote name='dap' date='01 May 2010 - 09:55 AM' timestamp='1272700537' post='2411537']I don't think many people would argue that he did have a slight cup and I think Dariusz J hit the nail on the head.That slight cup is not a deliberate cupping of the left wrist but the result of forearm clockwise pronation.The opposite would be counter clockwise pronation of the left forearm which naturally flattens/bow the left wrist.
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Isn't it as clear as crystal, Dap ?

Cheers

[eightiron]

[quote name='Dariusz J.' date='01 May 2010 - 03:01 AM' timestamp='1272700911' post='2411542']
[quote name='dap' date='01 May 2010 - 09:55 AM' timestamp='1272700537' post='2411537']I don't think many people would argue that he did have a slight cup and I think Dariusz J hit the nail on the head.That slight cup is not a deliberate cupping of the left wrist but the result of forearm clockwise pronation.The opposite would be counter clockwise pronation of the left forearm which naturally flattens/bow the left wrist.
[/quote]

Isn't it as clear as crystal, Dap ?

Cheers
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Only to comedians in punch elbow

[Dariusz J.]

[quote name='eightiron' date='01 May 2010 - 10:36 AM' timestamp='1272702980' post='2411550']
Only to comedians in punch elbow
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Obviously, not to comedians with a pitch elbow obsession...LOL.

Cheers

[hoganfan924]

[quote name='eightiron' date='01 May 2010 - 01:49 AM' timestamp='1272692955' post='2411469']
This is a comedy surely, If Hogan rolled his left forearm and didn't "cup" his left wrist / combined with pitch elbow plus the weaker left hand ... where would he have ended up ? I'm thinking flat as heck with a bowed left wrist in transition and hitting smother hooks as a general shot pattern

Glove??
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[quote name='AlexCzervic' date='01 May 2010 - 02:45 AM' timestamp='1272696313' post='2411504']
[quote name='eightiron' date='01 May 2010 - 01:49 AM' timestamp='1272692955' post='2411469']

Glove??
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Copy full image to desktop. View with whatever and zoom in, it is definitely a glove. The excess material near the heal pad is visible. Either that or it is another friggn secret.

AC
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Upon further review, sure looks like it could just be a watch.

[dap]

Was it fashionable to wear a watch below the wrist joint in the 50's?

[eightiron]

[quote name='Dariusz J.' date='01 May 2010 - 02:59 AM' timestamp='1272700773' post='2411540']
Again...from the "Life Magazine" article:

"When the secret is applied the left wrist bends [b]backward and inward[/b] forming a slight V".

Such a phenomenon can happen only during pronation of the forearm - BTW, the word Hogan used multiple times in the article. It seems quite obvious that pronation is the culprit and not the viceversa.

Cheers
[/quote]

This a simply not true. Hogan said that he deliberately and actually was his only swing thought to cupped/bent his left wrist at the top of his swing ... its in the article , and further stated he moved his left hand to a weaker position at set up.
Weaker left hand grip + pronation and pitch elbow does not give a bent/ cupped left wrist... he clearly explained that the pronation would do to the hands and where they would face at the top and it would be a hookers heaven and his 2 adjustments changed the whole deal
I just read it again to make sure of Hogan's words

[dap]

I suspect the gloved "Hogan" was John Gustin.He was a good friend of Hogan and frequently dressed like him.The not so tucked in right elbow and left shoulder under his nose are good indications.

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[ej002]

Gustin's swing looks a lot like a Slicefixer swing, down the to reverse K set up. Interesting that Hogan taught him and that is what he swing looks like.