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On average they're around 21 degrees mate (give or take a degree either side)
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Thats what I thought. I have this fairway wood that is 25 degrees, what is it a 9 wood? It actually hits farther than my other 7 wood which is 21 degrees.

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[quote name='villa' timestamp='1311387858' post='3415864']
On average they're around 21 degrees mate (give or take a degree either side)
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Thats what I thought. I have this fairway wood that is 25 degrees, what is it a 9 wood? It actually hits farther than my other 7 wood which is 21 degrees.
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Yes mate. 23-25 degrees is typically a 9 wood.

Without knowing the models/specs of your 7 & 9 woods, it's difficult to know why you hit the 9 further. It could be a variety of things.

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[quote name='Chaz370z' timestamp='1311388126' post='3415875']
[quote name='villa' timestamp='1311387858' post='3415864']
On average they're around 21 degrees mate (give or take a degree either side)
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Thats what I thought. I have this fairway wood that is 25 degrees, what is it a 9 wood? It actually hits farther than my other 7 wood which is 21 degrees.
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Yes mate. 23-25 degrees is typically a 9 wood.

Without knowing the models/specs of your 7 & 9 woods, it's difficult to know why you hit the 9 further. It could be a variety of things.
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Thanks. I always thought it was a 7 wood and was wondering why it got so high. Oh and my fault it doesn't go farther than my 7 wood got it confused.

If any of you care to know what it is, its a Top flight 325

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Do you guys think the old 7 woods are now considered 9 woods? Im asking because my dad has an old set of wilson staff firestick fairway woods. The one with the whale driver and his 7 wood says 25 degrees. He also has an older Macgregor 7 wood that says 25 degrees as well.

Look what i found

http://www.cureaslice.com/golf_club_loft_angles.htm

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Nothing is standard in golf. What one company claims is a 'x' iron may have nothing at all in common with another companies 'x' iron.

 

Buy 100 shafts, check every one with every tool made and you'll get 50 at least different readings. Nothing is standard.

Same for woods. it's a mixed bag of nuts with as many as 6 degrees overall separating different mfg.

 

What matters is not what it says it is, a 7 or a 9 or whatever. What matters is can you hit it consistently and can you hit it a consistent distance.

If you can pick up a 9 iron and hit it like others hit their 7, who cares. Use it for the distance you can hit it straight. Nothing else matters.

 

That is why I am a non-believer of having a full set of clubs in a bag. Bring only the clubs you can hit straight and do so with the knowledge of the distances you can hit each club (short-average-long) and use this info (hopefully written down and laminated) on the course. You'll play better.

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Do you guys think the old 7 woods are now considered 9 woods? Im asking because my dad has an old set of wilson staff firestick fairway woods. The one with the whale driver and his 7 wood says 25 degrees. He also has an older Macgregor 7 wood that says 25 degrees as well.

 

Look what i found

 

http://www.cureaslice.com/golf_club_loft_angles.htm

 

Do you guys think the old 7 woods are now considered 9 woods? Im asking because my dad has an old set of wilson staff firestick fairway woods. The one with the whale driver and his 7 wood says 25 degrees. He also has an older Macgregor 7 wood that says 25 degrees as well.

 

Look what i found

 

http://www.cureaslice.com/golf_club_loft_angles.htm

 

When clubs were actually made from wood the lofts were generally as such.

Driver-11

2 wood-13

3 wood-16

4 wood-19

5 wood- 22

6 wood -25

7 wood -28

 

With modern clubs they started reducing loft in order to sell distance. The Callaway Heavenwood hit the market in the 1990's and it had 20 degrees loft with a longer 4 wood shaft. People loved it but it was really more of a 4 wood.

 

Companies then moved to stronger lofted "woods" with the metal clubs and the lofts kept getting stronger over the years a d the graphite shafts longer.

 

Now the general standard is

2 wood -mini driver

3 wood 13-15

4 wood-HL 3 wood 16-17

5 wood -18 to 19

6 wood-N/A

7 wood -20-22

9 wood-23-25

I pick 14 of the following:
Ping G400
Ping G410 3, 5 and 7 wood
Ping G 400 4 hybrid
Ping G 4-U
Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 54, 58 SS
Grips NDMC +4
Odyssey Pro #1 black
Hoofer
ProV1x-mostly
ECCO Biom Hybrid 3

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Do you guys think the old 7 woods are now considered 9 woods? Im asking because my dad has an old set of wilson staff firestick fairway woods. The one with the whale driver and his 7 wood says 25 degrees. He also has an older Macgregor 7 wood that says 25 degrees as well.

 

Look what i found

 

http://www.cureaslic...loft_angles.htm

 

Do you guys think the old 7 woods are now considered 9 woods? Im asking because my dad has an old set of wilson staff firestick fairway woods. The one with the whale driver and his 7 wood says 25 degrees. He also has an older Macgregor 7 wood that says 25 degrees as well.

 

Look what i found

 

http://www.cureaslic...loft_angles.htm

 

When clubs were actually made from wood the lofts were generally as such.

Driver-11

2 wood-13

3 wood-16

4 wood-19

5 wood- 22

6 wood -25

7 wood -28

 

With modern clubs they started reducing loft in order to sell distance. The Callaway Heavenwood hit the market in the 1990's and it had 20 degrees loft with a longer 4 wood shaft. People loved it but it was really more of a 4 wood.

 

Companies then moved to stronger lofted "woods" with the metal clubs and the lofts kept getting stronger over the years a d the graphite shafts longer.

 

Now the general standard is

2 wood -mini driver

3 wood 13-15

4 wood-HL 3 wood 16-17

5 wood -18 to 19

6 wood-N/A

7 wood -20-22

9 wood-23-25

 

Very good and rather complete answer. Thank you.

 

 

 

Shambles

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The mix of ball speeds/launch angles and spin rates of the 9 wood, can mean that the 9 wood numbers are optimal(nice high launch angle, with moderate spin), whereas the 7 wood launch conditions are probably not optimal (possibly too low launch angle for your ball speed), hence the reason the 9 wood is going further. It's often why many golfers experience gap squeezing with their longer irons, whereby they hit their 3,4, and 5 irons all within 10 yards of each other.

 

A perfect example of why what numbers it says on the bottom of clubs are totally irrelevant, and only gapping matters.

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The mix of ball speeds/launch angles and spin rates of the 9 wood, can mean that the 9 wood numbers are optimal(nice high launch angle, with moderate spin), whereas the 7 wood launch conditions are probably not optimal (possibly too low launch angle for your ball speed), hence the reason the 9 wood is going further. It's often why many golfers experience gap squeezing with their longer irons, whereby they hit their 3,4, and 5 irons all within 10 yards of each other.

 

A perfect example of why what numbers it says on the bottom of clubs are totally irrelevant, and only gapping matters.

 

 

great explanation , thanks !

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The mix of ball speeds/launch angles and spin rates of the 9 wood, can mean that the 9 wood numbers are optimal(nice high launch angle, with moderate spin), whereas the 7 wood launch conditions are probably not optimal (possibly too low launch angle for your ball speed), hence the reason the 9 wood is going further. It's often why many golfers experience gap squeezing with their longer irons, whereby they hit their 3,4, and 5 irons all within 10 yards of each other.

 

A perfect example of why what numbers it says on the bottom of clubs are totally irrelevant, and only gapping matters.

 

 

So I play the callaway V Series 3 (15.5)wood and Heavenwood.(20.5)I also picked up the 9 wood (25 degrees). All the same shaft.

 

The 3 wood is a solid performer and plays more like most 4 woods. The HW is unbelievable for me. It launches high and carries almost as far as the 3 wood but on a higher trajectory. The 9 wood ballooned like crazy and I couldn't hit it anywhere. It was going maybe 6 iron distance for me and was impossible to hit into the wind and impossible to knock down. I ended up trading it back in as I bought it used.

 

Never had them on Trackman but I suspect the spin numbers were crazy with the 9 wood but optimal with the HW for me.

 

So yes sometimes numbers don't mean a thing, you have to test the equipment and use what's best for you.

 

And as always your mileage may vary from mine.

I pick 14 of the following:
Ping G400
Ping G410 3, 5 and 7 wood
Ping G 400 4 hybrid
Ping G 4-U
Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 54, 58 SS
Grips NDMC +4
Odyssey Pro #1 black
Hoofer
ProV1x-mostly
ECCO Biom Hybrid 3

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The mix of ball speeds/launch angles and spin rates of the 9 wood, can mean that the 9 wood numbers are optimal(nice high launch angle, with moderate spin), whereas the 7 wood launch conditions are probably not optimal (possibly too low launch angle for your ball speed), hence the reason the 9 wood is going further. It's often why many golfers experience gap squeezing with their longer irons, whereby they hit their 3,4, and 5 irons all within 10 yards of each other.

 

A perfect example of why what numbers it says on the bottom of clubs are totally irrelevant, and only gapping matters.

 

 

So I play the callaway V Series 3 (15.5)wood and Heavenwood.(20.5)I also picked up the 9 wood (25 degrees). All the same shaft.

 

The 3 wood is a solid performer and plays more like most 4 woods. The HW is unbelievable for me. It launches high and carries almost as far as the 3 wood but on a higher trajectory. The 9 wood ballooned like crazy and I couldn't hit it anywhere. It was going maybe 6 iron distance for me and was impossible to hit into the wind and impossible to knock down. I ended up trading it back in as I bought it used.

 

Never had them on Trackman but I suspect the spin numbers were crazy with the 9 wood but optimal with the HW for me.

 

So yes sometimes numbers don't mean a thing, you have to test the equipment and use what's best for you.

 

And as always your mileage may vary from mine.

 

Quite right. As you say, the 9 wood could be spinning like crazy, hence the distance loss. And as you say, testing is the key. It's quite common for me to have had a #3 Titleist T-MB which is 20*, and a 21* hybrid in the same bag, purely because the Hybrid gives me the gaps over the T-MB I need.

 

As I said, numbers on the bottom of clubs are irrelevant. I hear so many people bemoaning the fact of stronger lofts nowadays hitting the ball too far and creating too much gaps at the wedge end of their bags. Simple solution, instead of buying 4-PW, go buy 5-GW instead.......the distances will be the same as a traditional 4-PW set, and gaps will be consistent.

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The mix of ball speeds/launch angles and spin rates of the 9 wood, can mean that the 9 wood numbers are optimal(nice high launch angle, with moderate spin), whereas the 7 wood launch conditions are probably not optimal (possibly too low launch angle for your ball speed), hence the reason the 9 wood is going further. It's often why many golfers experience gap squeezing with their longer irons, whereby they hit their 3,4, and 5 irons all within 10 yards of each other.

 

A perfect example of why what numbers it says on the bottom of clubs are totally irrelevant, and only gapping matters.

 

 

So I play the callaway V Series 3 (15.5)wood and Heavenwood.(20.5)I also picked up the 9 wood (25 degrees). All the same shaft.

 

The 3 wood is a solid performer and plays more like most 4 woods. The HW is unbelievable for me. It launches high and carries almost as far as the 3 wood but on a higher trajectory. The 9 wood ballooned like crazy and I couldn't hit it anywhere. It was going maybe 6 iron distance for me and was impossible to hit into the wind and impossible to knock down. I ended up trading it back in as I bought it used.

 

Never had them on Trackman but I suspect the spin numbers were crazy with the 9 wood but optimal with the HW for me.

 

So yes sometimes numbers don't mean a thing, you have to test the equipment and use what's best for you.

 

And as always your mileage may vary from mine.

 

Is your heavenwood stock? Because the stock V series heavenwood had some interesting specs and was less of a 7wood than many realized. Iirc it was more of a 5w loft but longer and lighter to play more like a stronger fairway wood. I reshafted mine to standard 7w length and while it's a bit lighter it's far more controllable for me.

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The mix of ball speeds/launch angles and spin rates of the 9 wood, can mean that the 9 wood numbers are optimal(nice high launch angle, with moderate spin), whereas the 7 wood launch conditions are probably not optimal (possibly too low launch angle for your ball speed), hence the reason the 9 wood is going further. It's often why many golfers experience gap squeezing with their longer irons, whereby they hit their 3,4, and 5 irons all within 10 yards of each other.

 

A perfect example of why what numbers it says on the bottom of clubs are totally irrelevant, and only gapping matters.

 

 

So I play the callaway V Series 3 (15.5)wood and Heavenwood.(20.5)I also picked up the 9 wood (25 degrees). All the same shaft.

 

The 3 wood is a solid performer and plays more like most 4 woods. The HW is unbelievable for me. It launches high and carries almost as far as the 3 wood but on a higher trajectory. The 9 wood ballooned like crazy and I couldn't hit it anywhere. It was going maybe 6 iron distance for me and was impossible to hit into the wind and impossible to knock down. I ended up trading it back in as I bought it used.

 

Never had them on Trackman but I suspect the spin numbers were crazy with the 9 wood but optimal with the HW for me.

 

So yes sometimes numbers don't mean a thing, you have to test the equipment and use what's best for you.

 

And as always your mileage may vary from mine.

 

Is your heavenwood stock? Because the stock V series heavenwood had some interesting specs and was less of a 7wood than many realized. Iirc it was more of a 5w loft but longer and lighter to play more like a stronger fairway wood. I reshafted mine to standard 7w length and while it's a bit lighter it's far more controllable for me.

 

4 wood length with 20.5 loft. Carries like a 5 wood with 7 wood trajectory. For me it's a great club.

I pick 14 of the following:
Ping G400
Ping G410 3, 5 and 7 wood
Ping G 400 4 hybrid
Ping G 4-U
Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 54, 58 SS
Grips NDMC +4
Odyssey Pro #1 black
Hoofer
ProV1x-mostly
ECCO Biom Hybrid 3

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