Copper putters

[tatumcat]

Why no use on tour?

With the sudden interest of copper putters,Byron,Nead ,ect,why dont they get any tour use?I've read posts about how soft they are and how much feel they have,and they are truely some outstanding examples available,any thoughts?

[PostandGhost]

Because no one is paying them to use copper.

[danattherock]

Only reason I can think of is ^^^^


After buying my Yamada 85029 (Musashi) in "burning copper", I am a fan.


Amazing feel. Like nothing I have used.


My older SC tei3's teryllium (copper) come close, but the Yamada is butter.




-Dan

[PostandGhost]

[quote name='danattherock' timestamp='1326561862' post='4083739']<br>Only reason I can think of is ^^^^<br><br><br>After buying my Yamada 85029 (Musashi) in "burning copper", I am a fan.<br><br><br>Amazing feel. Like nothing I have used. <br><br><br>My older SC tei3's teryllium (copper) come close, but the Yamada is butter. <br><br><br><br><br>-Dan<br>[/quote]<br><br>Dan-<br><br>I wish someone would pay us to play copper!<br><br>I bet that flat stick of yours is teets!

[GolfLinks86]

[quote name='From_Parts_Unknown' timestamp='1326560113' post='4083589']
Because no one is paying them to use copper.
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Very few players are playing a putter because they're getting paid to do so. Most players are on 10-12 club contracts, which allows them to pick a couple of clubs from different manufactures without violating their contract. Of all the clubs in the bag the putter is the one that players will be most selective about. Any major OEM can put a solid driver, fairway wood, iron, or wedge in their players hands. And if they can't ( Taylormade, early Nike) they have miura forge them a set with their own stampings. Just think of all the taylormade staffers playing camerons, or stricker playing an odyssey, z. johnson with a seemore. Players play putters because it's what works best for them. As for why they aren't using copper putters I'm not sure. It may be that they are actually too soft, you actually lose some feel when that happens. Thats why the Taylormade Nubbins putter didn't stick. Although if it ever catches on with a major OEM I wouldn't be surprised to see players giving them an extra look.

[danattherock]

 

I wish someone would pay us to play copper! I bet that flat stick of yours is teets!

 

 

 

 

It is my most valued putter. Exceptional.

 

 

 

 

 

[PreppySlapCut]

One of the big problems with copper is that it bends, so the specs constantly need to be checked/adjusted.

[danattherock]

The Yamada is a softer than normal carbon steel putter head that is copper plated.


Comes in 4 finishes, "burning copper" being the softest. But a carbon head.



-Dan

[Llortamaisey]

Tour pros don't get paid to play putters, wow. I could have sworn there was something called tee up money. I guess we were all wrong.

I could see how the specs adjustment could be a problem. It's probably hard to find a bending machine on tour week to week.

Dan, sick putter. I hope she's a gamer.

[danattherock]

Hell yes she is a gamer. So will the next Yamada I buy. Got some emails out now. Looks like 5 dealers in the US. All have about a one week order time. Not bad. Looking at getting the same putter in the flowneck version. Burning copper of course.

 

 

[ToysRUs]

+1 on the copper.
Every putter I try and use has some copper in it. Either all copper or a copper insert.
My current Odyssey has a copper insert Gene Nead did for me (again, thanks Gene)
I am talking with See More about a putter but will require a copper insert also.
I just think it has unmatched feel!

[Z-Man]

[quote name='GolfLinks86' timestamp='1326563449' post='4083863']
[quote name='From_Parts_Unknown' timestamp='1326560113' post='4083589']
Because no one is paying them to use copper.
[/quote]

Very few players are playing a putter because they're getting paid to do so. Most players are on 10-12 club contracts, which allows them to pick a couple of clubs from different manufactures without violating their contract. Of all the clubs in the bag the putter is the one that players will be most selective about. Any major OEM can put a solid driver, fairway wood, iron, or wedge in their players hands. And if they can't ( Taylormade, early Nike) they have miura forge them a set with their own stampings. Just think of all the taylormade staffers playing camerons, or stricker playing an odyssey, z. johnson with a seemore. Players play putters because it's what works best for them. As for why they aren't using copper putters I'm not sure. It may be that they are actually too soft, you actually lose some feel when that happens. Thats why the Taylormade Nubbins putter didn't stick. Although if it ever catches on with a major OEM I wouldn't be surprised to see players giving them an extra look.
[/quote]


Not sure where you came up with your facts.. This statement is so full of holes it just makes me laugh...

[Socrates]

Hell yes she is a gamer. So will the next Yamada I buy. Got some emails out now. Looks like 5 dealers in the US. All have about a one week order time. Not bad. Looking at getting the same putter in the flowneck version. Burning copper of course.

 

 

 

I thought you were spending your money on a TCM putting device?

[newportbeach]

Jason Gore bagged a Cameron BBC (all copper) for some time but it was so soft the specs would change when he leaned on it. So, he quit playing it. But he now has a copper head putter with a stainless neck to prevent the problem. Reliability is a problem with 100% copper.

[danattherock]

I thought you were spending your money on a TCM putting device?

 

 

 

Ha ha.. I got both. The Can't Miss training aid was half off with coupon code Peanut Gallery, so I was some how able to rationalize picking up a Yamada Emperor on Ebay. Had been watching it all week. 34.5" Nippon shaft, white iomic midsize, brand new putter with soft black finish, for $300? I couldn't say no. Comes out to about $150 off regular price if I had ordered one. $150 is exactly what The Can't Miss training aid cost with the 1/2 off coupon code. Hmm.... Kismet? Me thinks so.

 

 

The Can't Miss (gyroscope) looks like a killer device. Can't wait to try it out and see if it helps my putting stroke. Tons of videos on Youtube and of course at the website. Invented in Australia, made in England, the reviews online are stellar. But at $280, doubt they sell many. My order # was 547 and I suspect that is how many they have sold worldwide. But for $150, I was willing to give it a whirl. The logic is sound. Technology is there. Curious to find out.

 

 

http://www.thecantmiss.com/products/The-Can't-Miss.html

 

 

 

I got this...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-Dan

[Thrillhouse]

Its because they all wear those copper bracelets to ensure that their emissions of holistic energy are in balance and their chi is in check. If they used a copper putter with a copper bracelet that would be too much ionizing power and their chi and feng shui would get so far out of whack it would take months to get right again.

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[weaver93]

[quote name='newportbeach' timestamp='1326580009' post='4085047']
Jason Gore bagged a Cameron BBC (all copper) for some time but it was so soft the specs would change when he leaned on it. So, he quit playing it. But he now has a copper head putter with a stainless neck to prevent the problem. Reliability is a problem with 100% copper.
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That is a lot to ask of a steel neck! (Don't worry Jason, I am right there with you!)

I worried about the same thing along with the head getting beat up so I had two Machines with copper inserts made. Not as soft as the pure copper, but softer than carbon. The Machine inserts are pressed in so there is no elastomer. I would say in the stainless head they are just a touch softer than carbon, but very good feedback. I also have a Machine copper head with a Gore proof stainless flow neck!

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[danattherock]

That bottom putter is SWEET.


Makes me want to order one. I had looked into it a year or two ago, but the "regular" models were no longer being made. I wanted a one piece head.



-Dan

[RightHandRough]

I'm actually working with Chris from Machine on getting a copper putter built. After spoiling yourself with that feel its hard to go back. Picked up my dads old stainless and it felt like putting with a sledgehammer.

[spr298]

[quote name='Thrillhouse' timestamp='1326679621' post='4090807']
Its because they all wear those copper bracelets to ensure that their emissions of holistic energy are in balance and their chi is in check. If they used a copper putter with a copper bracelet that would be too much ionizing power and their chi and feng shui would get so far out of whack it would take months to get right again.

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That is funny.

[tatumcat]

Really hadnt thought about the softness in the neck area,that Yamada looks great,how soft does copper plated carbon feel?That Machine with the insert and the fluted neck also looks great.So many great looking putters,ive decided i'll never drive the ball farther so instead of buying drivers i'm going to work this year on the other end and try to improve my putting,besides putters are easier to personalize than drivers.So many great choices available.

[whatshannenin]

[quote name='Z-Man' timestamp='1326577338' post='4084851']
[quote name='GolfLinks86' timestamp='1326563449' post='4083863']
[quote name='From_Parts_Unknown' timestamp='1326560113' post='4083589']
Because no one is paying them to use copper.
[/quote]

Very few players are playing a putter because they're getting paid to do so. Most players are on 10-12 club contracts, which allows them to pick a couple of clubs from different manufactures without violating their contract. Of all the clubs in the bag the putter is the one that players will be most selective about. Any major OEM can put a solid driver, fairway wood, iron, or wedge in their players hands. And if they can't ( Taylormade, early Nike) they have miura forge them a set with their own stampings. Just think of all the taylormade staffers playing camerons, or stricker playing an odyssey, z. johnson with a seemore. Players play putters because it's what works best for them. As for why they aren't using copper putters I'm not sure. It may be that they are actually too soft, you actually lose some feel when that happens. Thats why the Taylormade Nubbins putter didn't stick. Although if it ever catches on with a major OEM I wouldn't be surprised to see players giving them an extra look.
[/quote]


Not sure where you came up with your facts.. This statement is so full of holes it just makes me laugh...
[/quote]


I laughed too. I'd be curious to where they based their knowledge too. "Mixed bag" deal is the new hit on the PGA Tour. A guy might have a 10-12 club deal here and a 1 or 2 club deal here, shoe ball, glove deal there......but I assure you there is A LOT of pay for play in the putter category. A certain company pays weekly premiums for Shoe, Ball, Glove, Putter...and even more for other clubs added. The players you mentioned might opt out of that "bonus" money, but it's there for the taking if they chose to use their main bag sponsor's putter.

[wolfpack]

[quote name='newportbeach' timestamp='1326580009' post='4085047']
Jason Gore bagged a Cameron BBC (all copper) for some time but it was so soft the specs would change when he leaned on it. So, he quit playing it. But he now has a copper head putter with a stainless neck to prevent the problem. Reliability is a problem with 100% copper.
[/quote]

I was gonna mention Gore's putter too.

[hebron1427]

[quote name='Z-Man' timestamp='1326577338' post='4084851']
[quote name='GolfLinks86' timestamp='1326563449' post='4083863']
[quote name='From_Parts_Unknown' timestamp='1326560113' post='4083589']
Because no one is paying them to use copper.
[/quote]

Very few players are playing a putter because they're getting paid to do so. Most players are on 10-12 club contracts, which allows them to pick a couple of clubs from different manufactures without violating their contract. Of all the clubs in the bag the putter is the one that players will be most selective about. Any major OEM can put a solid driver, fairway wood, iron, or wedge in their players hands. And if they can't ( Taylormade, early Nike) they have miura forge them a set with their own stampings. Just think of all the taylormade staffers playing camerons, or stricker playing an odyssey, z. johnson with a seemore. Players play putters because it's what works best for them. As for why they aren't using copper putters I'm not sure. It may be that they are actually too soft, you actually lose some feel when that happens. Thats why the Taylormade Nubbins putter didn't stick. Although if it ever catches on with a major OEM I wouldn't be surprised to see players giving them an extra look.
[/quote]


Not sure where you came up with your facts.. This statement is so full of holes it just makes me laugh...
[/quote]
+1

[choeppner]

That bottom putter is SWEET.

 

 

Makes me want to order one. I had looked into it a year or two ago, but the "regular" models were no longer being made. I wanted a one piece head.

 

 

 

-Dan

 

Dan,

 

Tried sending you a PM, but keep getting this:

 

 

The member danattherock cannot receive any new messages

 

Let me know if I can help.

 

Here are some other Billet Copper heads we have made :)

 

 

 

 

 

One of the reasons you don't see a on of Billet Copper Heads is that Billet Copper is one HEAVY material.

 

Thanks

 

-Chris

[Nandy14]

^ oooo lot of lefty heads

[danattherock]

Chris,

Will clean out the inbox. Thanks.


The copper Machine putters are impressive. Very impressive. Might be my next putter if I can afford it.



-Dan

[danattherock]

Just found something on Ebay I couldn't live without

 

 

Ping BeCu anser 2.

 

Anyone got any idea how old it is. Looks brand new. Will patina back, but the current condition shows the, well, condition.

 

I like what I see.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-Dan

[OOVII]

That bottom putter is SWEET.

 

 

Makes me want to order one. I had looked into it a year or two ago, but the "regular" models were no longer being made. I wanted a one piece head.

 

 

 

-Dan

 

Dan,

 

Tried sending you a PM, but keep getting this:

 

 

The member danattherock cannot receive any new messages

 

Let me know if I can help.

 

Here are some other Billet Copper heads we have made

 

 

 

 

 

One of the reasons you don't see a on of Billet Copper Heads is that Billet Copper is one HEAVY material.

 

Thanks

 

-Chris

I like that OOVII head. Machine also notched out the bottom to make it lighter. The head is still around 360g after all that. Copper feels great and patinas nice.