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[quote name='9ccat9' timestamp='1329691269' post='4325627']
So just because he hits it longer it is better for him??
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WHAT?
Don't agree to make a commercial saying you're hitting (playing on tour) something better than R11 if you don't have the rocketBALLZ to keep playing the club.
Do you really not get that?

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[quote name='Skip1020' timestamp='1329691129' post='4325587']
So I'm watching this brutally boring final round of the Northern Trust Open and I just saw this commercial with Justin Rose, Dustin Johnson, and Justin Leonard for the R11S.
And Rose has the nerve to say right to my face that he's playing a driver more tunable than R11. Even the graphic says he's getting 23 more yards.

So I'm wondering, Justin, when did you start wearing that cheesy hat?
And are the police looking for the guy that stole your new driver?
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R11 with R11S graphiced shafted. haha, TM marketing is insane! They wont allow any shafts on the van without the new graphics. Doesnt matter who wants it or who makes it, it has to be TM graphics to be on the van.

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[quote name='Skip1020' timestamp='1329692150' post='4325769']
[quote name='9ccat9' timestamp='1329691269' post='4325627']
So just because he hits it longer it is better for him??
[/quote]

WHAT?
Don't agree to make a commercial saying you're hitting (playing on tour) something better than R11 if you don't have the rocketBALLZ to keep playing the club.
Do you really not get that?
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What??
He did not say it was in his bag he just said it was longer. No matter if it is Rose or DJ or anyone who cares?? They are playing all sorts of different stuff than most people can't get. So by your statement most if not all pros are full of it because they play different then retail....hmmmm

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No wonder K. Perry left TM, he didn't want to wear that stupid hat.

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I saw a few RBZ drivers out there at Riviera. Plenty of R11S but I thought I saw more of the Non-TM staffers with RBZ drivers and not R11S. I wonder if the TM guys are paid to stick with R11S or for guys like Camillo RBZ?

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i guess to each is own,, and i guess not everyone gets the same results with a particular club.. cuz i just got BOTH and r11S TP with the rip phenom tp, and an RBZ tour tp with the hd6. both are 9*. i wanted really bad to like the r11S, but after 2 days playing it at my country club, where i know where big drives land, i will say this,, on some drives with the r11s that i thought i pounded!!! they ended up where my r9 tp 3 wood lands!! WTF!!!! i thought the sound was horrible too!!,
i just put the RBZ tour tp in the bag and it is hands down longer that the r11s, about as far if not equal to or maybe a little longer than my SFTP 2.0 V2..
i am very disappointed with the r11s!! right now it is en route back to TM for the money back guarantee!! LOL
btw, i heard the RBZ tour tp is TM's lowest spinning driver to date!! i thought my SFTP 2.0 v2 was low spinning, i'd say the rbz tour tp is got to be similar. and the only reason my r11s was so short is because it's too spinny!!
i'm glad that some/most of you love your r11s,, but to me , it's a piece of crap, and i can't wait to get my money back..

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[quote name='Ti-Cip ' timestamp='1329805453' post='4339021']
i guess to each is own,, and i guess not everyone gets the same results with a particular club.. cuz i just got BOTH and r11S TP with the rip phenom tp, and an RBZ tour tp with the hd6. both are 9*. i wanted really bad to like the r11S, but after 2 days playing it at my country club, where i know where big drives land, i will say this,, on some drives with the r11s that i thought i pounded!!! they ended up where my r9 tp 3 wood lands!! WTF!!!! i thought the sound was horrible too!!,
i just put the RBZ tour tp in the bag and it is hands down longer that the r11s, about as far if not equal to or maybe a little longer than my SFTP 2.0 V2..
i am very disappointed with the r11s!! right now it is en route back to TM for the money back guarantee!! LOL
btw, i heard the RBZ tour tp is TM's lowest spinning driver to date!! i thought my SFTP 2.0 v2 was low spinning, i'd say the rbz tour tp is got to be similar. and the only reason my r11s was so short is because it's too spinny!!
i'm glad that some/most of you love your r11s,, but to me , it's a piece of crap, and i can't wait to get my money back..
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Well I have both currently and my results are somewhat different in early testing. I get more carry with the R11 S TP, I get more roll with the RBZ Tour. I have replaced the Project X shafts that they came with, with shafts that Fujikura sent me for them. I am still dialing in the R11 S. More to do in the upcoming days. Because of all the possible adjustments to the R11 S, it takes patience to find the maximum performance for control, loft, carry, roll etc. The reason the adjustabls get more tour play is that there is a great deal of time and experimentation that goes on including an almost infinite amount of weight changes. But I admit I have access to many more weight combo with weights ranging from 1g to 16g and almost everything in between. Last years R11 had 8g-toe, 4g-heel. They need to make more choices available than just a 10g and 1g that most of the clubs come with.
As of now I have a little better control with the RBZ. Regardless of where I choose to go in the end, there will likely be more R11 S drivers in play at all levels.
So to call a club a "piece of crap" says more about you than the club.

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that's exactly what i was saying.. to each is own.. it wasn't good for me at all!!! i do this the adjustments can be tweaked a little bit,, but just a little bit,, i do not need to adjust the club to the extremes!! because the extremes will also effect the ball flight from hook to slice!! i did adjust them a little and it really did not make much of a difference.. so really to me,, it was not good!! i am killing the rbz tour tp!!

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I'm between the i20 8.5° and the RBZ tour 9° I think for 2012...... I tried both while in Myrtle beach and I must say that I was very impressed with the RBZ tour. I really liked that it was tough to turn over (I had it set in the "LOW" position). I was hitting nearly perfect 5-10 yard fades with it. I usually play a draw.

the i20 was nice too.......DAMN, it is a tough call. Prbably gonna do a trackman fitting to sort this out.....

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