Tour Action 588 wedges

[Jseale]

I currently play some Nike wedges and am reasonably happy with them but would like to change it up. I love the look of oil can or rusty wedges. I've been looking on eBay and seems like I can pick up a couple of rusty TA 588's for well under $100. I take pretty significant divots with my current wedges 52/10 and 60/6 and get

a good amount of spin when I play with a tour ball (typically play Bridgestone e6).

My questions are:

Are the TA 588's still a viable option?

How can I tell if a wedge still has life left in it?

I like to hit my wedges on the range and

typically practice not less than 2 times per week often times 4 range sessions in 1 week.

Will forged wedges wear out too quickly for me?

 

Thanks in advance for your responses.

I'm new to the world of buying used clubs, but am incredibly happy with the forged black Adams idea pro golds I bought used off of here so it will be tough for me to buy anything new again.

[llamont]

The old TA 588 wedges are great clubs. The only issue concerns the usga's 2010 conforming grooves rule. The grooves do not conform (which is only an issue if you play Omg tournaments where the conditions of competition are in play).

[Jseale]

Thanks for the heads up.
I am somewhere between a 6 and an 8 so a long way from playing competitively. I have no concerns about the new wedge rules. If I didn't think that it would make me look like a total dork, I would probably buy one of those old school infomercial wedges that will spin your ball back 50 feet.

[stikman33]

I traded a friend for a TA 588 60* wedge a little while ago. I am very happy with it! It knocked my Adams Tom Watson 2010 60* out of the bag.

[Jseale]

Anyone else out there still using the old school Cleveland wedges?

[Arafel]

[quote name='Jseale' timestamp='1343364461' post='5362566']
I currently play some Nike wedges and am reasonably happy with them but would like to change it up. I love the look of oil can or rusty wedges. I've been looking on eBay and seems like I can pick up a couple of rusty TA 588's for well under $100. I take pretty significant divots with my current wedges 52/10 and 60/6 and get
a good amount of spin when I play with a tour ball (typically play Bridgestone e6).
My questions are:
Are the TA 588's still a viable option? [b][color=#ff0000]Yes very much so.[/color][/b]
How can I tell if a wedge still has life left in it? [color=#ff0000][b]Does it still have grooves left.[/b][/color]
I like to hit my wedges on the range and
typically practice not less than 2 times per week often times 4 range sessions in 1 week.
Will forged wedges wear out too quickly for me? [color=#ff0000][b]These wedges are not forged. Along with the Voleys people are shocked to learn this.[/b][/color]

Thanks in advance for your responses.
I'm new to the world of buying used clubs, but am incredibly happy with the forged black Adams idea pro golds I bought used off of here so it will be tough for me to buy anything new again.
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I've been using a raw RC grind (Roger Cleveland) 588 for a couple of years now and I love it. I will probably be playing it until the grooves are gone.

[wolfpack]

I have a 588 RTG wedge that i really like. If your handy, just buy a good groove tool and pick up a couple beat up/rusty 588's and re-groove them. Mine turned out great, lots of bite.

[Br1an02;]

I still play a Gunmetal 588 51*

[SurfinTurf]

[quote name='Jseale' timestamp='1343402932' post='5364410']
Anyone else out there still using the old school Cleveland wedges?
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Does this answer your question?

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I like the 485s, 588s and 691s. Gotta be RTGs though.

[ayotte2]

I've got a couple old BeCu 588 wedges. A 56 and a 60. DG regular shafts. I think they are cool to look at and play but they're in such good shape, I don't want to use them regularly.

[TheDailyDuffer]

Wedges are really the clubs that you should replace most. Personally i wouldn't feel confident grabbing an old wore down wedge that could date back to the 80s. All that being said the 588s are fantastic wedges and its always possible that you can find a couple that sat in some dudes closet and are in great shape.

Yes forge wedges are softer and a little more prone to wear down, and abuse.

You can pick up a couple of floor sample 2012 588s on ebay right now for 79 shipped so i cant really come up with a reason why you would want a wedge that can be older then rickie fowler.

[Arafel]

[quote name='Bottlenosedolphin' timestamp='1343423061' post='5366386']
Wedges are really the clubs that you should replace most. Personally i wouldn't feel confident grabbing an old wore down wedge that could date back to the 80s. All that being said the 588s are fantastic wedges and its always possible that you can find a couple that sat in some dudes closet and are in great shape.

Yes forge wedges are softer and a little more prone to wear down, and abuse.

You can pick up a couple of floor sample 2012 588s on ebay right now for 79 shipped so i cant really come up with a reason why you would want a wedge that can be older then rickie fowler.
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What could the age of a wedge possibly have to do with performance?

[PutterHo]

I love the 588's so much I picked up some tour 588's with conforming grooves. I am so mad I missed out on a couple that were on the BST in gunmetal last night. They're so hard to find these days. I consider the 588's the most traditional wedge there is and in the same boat as the Ping Anser or a Ping Hoofer. Instant Classics.

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[eH2Oman]

I've played 588 wedges pretty much since they came out in 1988. Love the shape, feel and versatility. Currently have a 56 degree gunmetal that still looks and plays great after ~4 yrs of use. My all time favorite is the 588 RTG, best feel/spin and looks cool when rusty.

[Jseale]

Sounds like the consensus is that you can't go wrong with the 588's. I'll try and pick up a decent cheap set if the RTG's.

Thanks for all the replies.

[TheDailyDuffer]

[quote name='sustain' timestamp='1343426888' post='5366610']
[quote name='Bottlenosedolphin' timestamp='1343423061' post='5366386']
Wedges are really the clubs that you should replace most. Personally i wouldn't feel confident grabbing an old wore down wedge that could date back to the 80s. All that being said the 588s are fantastic wedges and its always possible that you can find a couple that sat in some dudes closet and are in great shape.

Yes forge wedges are softer and a little more prone to wear down, and abuse.

You can pick up a couple of floor sample 2012 588s on ebay right now for 79 shipped so i cant really come up with a reason why you would want a wedge that can be older then rickie fowler.
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What could the age of a wedge possibly have to do with performance?
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maybe i was unclear if its from the 80s-early 90s chances are they are real wore down

[dominic713]

I still use them. I have a 53*, 56*, and 60* that I will use for the rest of my golfing days (maybe). The only wedges that came close to replacing them were some zodia wedges I had a few years ago.

[Jseale]

So how do you tell how much life a wedge has left? Is it all about the depth of the grooves? Kind of like car tires?

[pmcuk]

http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/392064-renovating-old-and-rusty-wedges-back-to-life/page__hl__%20regroove%20%20wedge

Great thread by Howard Jones about renovating old wedges. It's not just the grooves, it's the whole face that goes smooth. I've been using some Neilsen CT1607 diamond needle files, 150 grit, to file down the face - diagonally as explained. Works a charm. I'm no longer afraid of old wedges!

Andy

[swbyps]

[quote name='Br1an02;' timestamp='1343412393' post='5365436']
I still play a Gunmetal 588 51*
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I have the 51* 56* and 60* but I recently swapped out the 51* for one of the new 588 in 50*.

[KaBoom21]

> @Jseale said:

> Anyone else out there still using the old school Cleveland wedges?

 

Yes.

[easylittle5wood]

Here you go: https://www.yourtourcollection.com/collections/cg-wedges

[tannyhoban]

Still put a TA 588 60 in the bag from time to time. Fresh grooves are overrated.

[dmeeksDC]

> @tannyhoban said:

> Still put a TA 588 60 in the bag from time to time. Fresh grooves are overrated.

 

Agree with this. The grooves on cast wedges — which the vast majority of wedges are — don’t wear down that fast. I have a Cally Mack Daddy 2 tour grind that stops great and I have practiced with it quite a bit.

 

 

[rufus mangler]

A good way to tell if a 588 is used up is the word "Cleveland" on the sole. If it's blurred, it's probably toast.

[wdaig1]

Which current wedge offering has the most similar full sole/low bounce combination of the 588 out now? I have been trying to come up with a wedge that simulates 588 for years with the legal grooves.

[dbleag]

I always keep an old Cleveland 588 Tour Action 56* wedge around for bunker practice.

 

I was friends with Errie Ball, who passed at age 103, but he could play wonderful bunker shots with an old Cleveland TA 56*. His wedge had worn down grooves, but he could spin the ball out of the bunker with no problem.

 

Fun to watch.

[wely324]

I have a 56 and 60 degree 588 TA in my bag, didn't realize the grooves don't conform to the rules now. I could have sworn I also had a 52 and 64 degree but I can't seem to find them anywhere. Awesome wedges tho, and I love them out of bunkers.

[Bogeygolf2]

anyone have that thread on renewing old wedges handy? link broken