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If there's not much grass around the ball, usually about an 8-iron for an uphill chip or one that needs to run a long way. Pitching wedge if it's downhill or not so far to run out.

If there's any grass at all around the ball (other than short fringe or fairway cut) I go to the gap degree wedge. If there's a lot of grass around the ball, sand wedge.

Playing on Bermuda grass, we quickly learn that if there's any grass between clubface and back of the ball then clubhead speed is our friend. A surprisingly minor amount of sticky Bermuda will make the gentle "bump" with a straight-faced club into a crapshoot. Better to have a lofted club and get some velocity behind it, even if it means flying the ball well onto the green rather than rolling it.

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[quote name='Hit em good' timestamp='1353384984' post='5956891']
I'm talking about chip shots within 5 yards of the green, where you are expecting some run out.

I've used the 47* pw for a few months, with some success. On a level green, it's about a 1:2 carry to roll ratio.

What club do you use for this shot?
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Give a hybrid a shot :)

If I'm within 2-3 yards of the green I use my hybrid a lot. Give's just enough launch to get it bouncing or hopping over the rough but then its like putting.

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[quote name='Fourmyle of Ceres' timestamp='1353424650' post='5957971']
If there's not much grass around the ball, usually about an 8-iron for an uphill chip or one that needs to run a long way. Pitching wedge if it's downhill or not so far to run out.

If there's any grass at all around the ball (other than short fringe or fairway cut) I go to the gap degree wedge. If there's a lot of grass around the ball, sand wedge.

Playing on Bermuda grass, we quickly learn that if there's any grass between clubface and back of the ball then clubhead speed is our friend. A surprisingly minor amount of sticky Bermuda will make the gentle "bump" with a straight-faced club into a crapshoot. Better to have a lofted club and get some velocity behind it, even if it means flying the ball well onto the green rather than rolling it.
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Great advice.

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For a normal lie chip and run shot, I use one of my Cleveland Niblicks...Could be either my 37* or my 42* Niblick depending on green speed, how much spin I want, and how much rollout I feel I need for the shot.

I have a high degree of confidence on these shots becuase I usually manage to get the ball up and down. Fanastic short game clubs those Niblicks!

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I usually use a sandwedge (56) but this thread has got me thinking a little bit by using the other sticks in my bag. Great topic OP!

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I asked my teaching-pro buddy at a lesson years ago what I should do for my chipping when the ball had a lot of grass around it. He was the one who gave me the answer "clubhead speed is your friend".

I also attended a short-game clinic of his one time where the instruction and drills were all about learning to visualize the trajectory that each club creates on shots of various lengths around the green. Can't recall all the drills we used but the central idea was to visualize the ball landing on a certain spot then rolling out a certain distance. Then imagine the trajectory that matches up to that landing spot and rollout. Then choose something between 7-iron and lob wedge that will create the right trajectory.

The problem with this approach is it totally varies with distance. So you from 20 yards a 9-iron might create a certain trajectory but from 25 yards because you're swinging a bit harder it might take a 7-iron to get the same height. So you need to spend a good bit of time around the practice green hitting various distances with various clubs to get those trajectories lodged in your memory.

If you can't put in the practice time, probably best to stick to just a couple of different clubs and learn their trajectories from different distances.

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I don't limit myself to one of two clubs. It depends where my ball is located and the proximity to the hole. If I am 5-7 yards off the green and the flag is in the middle and slopes downhill I will use a 56 degree to control the runout. If it is in the back of the green and all uphill I will use a 7 iron because I want it to run. If I am up against the fringe and rough I use a hybrid as a putter. I love going to the practice green and experimenting with different lies and club selection.

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Depends on a few things, but the 50* gets a work out around the greens for me.

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[quote name='Gaijin_Golfer' timestamp='1353398444' post='5957313']
My chipper. [b]It makes chipping so easy that it almost feels like cheating[/b].
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I use a "belly" chipper. I hope they don't ban it, too. :stop:

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I think any club up to a 5iron. Makes chip n runs so much easier when you know far each club will carry and release. You can put the same stroke on all of them and not rely on feel as much!
If it's not a favourable lie, I won't go higher than an 8 iron, a slower swing can get caught in the **** and the ball could do anything.

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Hard to say. Assuming relatively normal conditions, lie, level green, excetera, could be 7i to P wedge.

Depends on how much to carry the fringe and how much roll I need to get to the pin.

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I usually use a 48 degree pitching wedge. I tried using multiple clubs in the past because I read in one of Tom Watson's books that he suggested that. I really struggled with my touch using this method. This year I tried it again using the runyan technique and the rule of 12. It's seems to be a pretty promising way to chip with multiple clubs. However I'm not totally comfortable with it and in a pressure situation I would go with the wedge. Next year I am going to put some more time into using the rule of 12.

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Wish I would have read this last Friday. I used my 53 SW in a 4 round event and it was a disaster off the tight, muddy areas around the greens here.

I'm usually pretty good with just a SW around the greens but it sounds like some short game practice with different clubs is in order.

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Depends. I usually reach for a 7 iron, but it just depends on how much green I have to work with. If I want it to run less, I play less club.

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A very good tip I got from our Pro was that if you are looking to run a ball up a step in the green you must have it on the ground and rolling a few yards short of the step to get it to run out. If its in the air or bouncing when it gets to the step it will die. Seemed very obvious when he said it, and I couldn't for the life of me work out why it had taken me 30 years of golf to realise it.

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