New PING S-series Iron / S55 / S-55(merged)

[Rock Chalk Jayhawk]

[quote name='tsecor' timestamp='1373383452' post='7416944']
isnt the gorge cavity already on the S56's?
[/quote]

You mean, isn't the s56 cavity already on the gorge wedges?

[Dill Pickleson]

Are we not expecting a new line for the Open Championship?

[Vindog]

[quote name='Naughty Mazz' timestamp='1373384059' post='7417012']
Are we not expecting a new line for the Open Championship?
[/quote]

I expect. . .something. "Leaked" photos, an official mention, a player or two testing, then full fledged buzz at the PGA Champ (long shot)

There's got to be something.
Or maybe not. lol

[backnine]

'Ah never had a thing for Ping
'Til I laid both eyes and my swing
On the ever so lovely S56
A lifetime of clubs from Mizuno to Wilson
Left me shocked and amazed these weren't a forgin'
Not likely soon i'll retire my S56's
But will wait with haste for Ping's next taste

[JaxBeachNole]

[quote name='Rock Chalk Jayhawk' timestamp='1373383693' post='7416976']
[quote name='tsecor' timestamp='1373383452' post='7416944']
isnt the gorge cavity already on the S56's?
[/quote]

You mean, isn't the s56 cavity already on the gorge wedges?
[/quote]

I don't really equate the s56 to the gorge wedge cavity wise. There is a relationship between the dual stabilizing bars of the s56, 2013 Ansers and i20 irons though. Tour S and Gorge both have that reversed diamond mass in the cavity area

[Rock Chalk Jayhawk]

[quote name='JaxBeachNole' timestamp='1373393960' post='7418330']
[quote name='Rock Chalk Jayhawk' timestamp='1373383693' post='7416976']
[quote name='tsecor' timestamp='1373383452' post='7416944']
isnt the gorge cavity already on the S56's?
[/quote]

You mean, isn't the s56 cavity already on the gorge wedges?
[/quote]

I don't really equate the s56 to the gorge wedge cavity wise. There is a relationship between the dual stabilizing bars of the s56, 2013 Ansers and i20 irons though. Tour S and Gorge both have that reversed diamond mass in the cavity area
[/quote]

Hmm.. I haven't really looked at the back of a gorge wedge closely, but assumed it was almost identical to the Tour-S. My Tour-S wedges look almost identical to the cavity on my s56 PW.

[tsecor]

I picture the S55 looking like the anser, but instead of the weight in the back, that is where the cavity would be and the stabilizer bars would be similar.....and they would be forged

[kronik]

isnt the gorge cavity already on the S56's?

 

You mean, isn't the s56 cavity already on the gorge wedges?

 

Not really, at all.

 

[Bob57]

[quote name='winfield' timestamp='1373380502' post='7416562']
[quote name='Bob57' timestamp='1373380162' post='7416518']
[quote name='Big Ben' timestamp='1373211953' post='7402866']
Gorge cavity with gorge finish is my guess, should be sharp. Toss in a nice radius grind to improve bounce and BAM you have a winner winner chicken dinner...BB
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Good point, It would certainly be a nice change to use the gorge finish as the satin chrome has been used for the last two cycles. It might help them sell a few more with a new finish. Introducing it now won't really impact their bottom line as this is their lowest volume club sales wise. Save the big stuff for next spring.

If TaylorMade is supposedly flooding the market with too much inventory, it begs the question why bring out a new driver. Probably more like the R1 and Stage 2 aren't selling, just like the Razr Fit Extreme wasn't selling so come with a new miracle club....


[/quote]

You seem to have the inside track. Are the S55 coming out in the fall or spring? I was going to consider them along with the new mizuno offering and the X forged.
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As I said several reps. I spoke to also told their big accounts they would be seeing the S55 for fall release at their July sales meeting. Everything else is being delayed until next spring. I'm not sure when the sales meetings are (they used to be at the end of July) so any actual data hasn't been forthcoming.. These were U.S. based reps.---I have no idea what reps. around the world are being told...Until they get back with pictures and wholesale prices it all remains speculation. If they aren't releasing the S55s this fall then there would be no reason for a summer sales meeting---as of 2 weeks ago they still were going, so we shall I guess.

[tsecor]

isnt the gorge cavity already on the S56's?

 

You mean, isn't the s56 cavity already on the gorge wedges?

 

Not really, at all.

 

awesome pics......they seem similar to me...maybe im looking at the wrong area, but they look like they could be part of the same set

 

The summer 2013 options have some cool additions to the custom lineups

[JaxBeachNole]

Summer 2013 PDF shows pretty much the same stuff with the addition of Super Strokes.

[kronik]

[quote name='tsecor' timestamp='1373408333' post='7420126']
awesome pics......they seem similar to me...maybe im looking at the wrong area, but they look like they could be part of the same set

The summer 2013 options have some cool additions to the custom lineups
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The similarities start and end with the insert which has gone back to all black instead of silver. The cavities are completely different; no notched stabalizing bars, the gorge has one big "muscle" beveled up from the tuning port that runs all the way to the perimeter edge, the upper "muscle" is also completely inverted in shape to the S56 stabalizing bars. There's a lot more, but you can't really compare other things like the bigger lower muscle size and smaller cavity proportions from wedge to iron.

[theothertomjones]

[quote name='Bob57' timestamp='1373406612' post='7419964']
[quote name='winfield' timestamp='1373380502' post='7416562']
[quote name='Bob57' timestamp='1373380162' post='7416518']
[quote name='Big Ben' timestamp='1373211953' post='7402866']
Gorge cavity with gorge finish is my guess, should be sharp. Toss in a nice radius grind to improve bounce and BAM you have a winner winner chicken dinner...BB
[/quote]

Good point, It would certainly be a nice change to use the gorge finish as the satin chrome has been used for the last two cycles. It might help them sell a few more with a new finish. Introducing it now won't really impact their bottom line as this is their lowest volume club sales wise. Save the big stuff for next spring.

If TaylorMade is supposedly flooding the market with too much inventory, it begs the question why bring out a new driver. Probably more like the R1 and Stage 2 aren't selling, just like the Razr Fit Extreme wasn't selling so come with a new miracle club....


[/quote]

You seem to have the inside track. Are the S55 coming out in the fall or spring? I was going to consider them along with the new mizuno offering and the X forged.
[/quote]

As I said several reps. I spoke to also told their big accounts they would be seeing the S55 for fall release at their July sales meeting. Everything else is being delayed until next spring. I'm not sure when the sales meetings are (they used to be at the end of July) so any actual data hasn't been forthcoming.. These were U.S. based reps.---I have no idea what reps. around the world are being told...Until they get back with pictures and wholesale prices it all remains speculation. If they aren't releasing the S55s this fall then there would be no reason for a summer sales meeting---as of 2 weeks ago they still were going, so we shall I guess.
[/quote]


I have heard similar.

There wasnt enough technology difference between what they projected for the i25 this year and the current i20. They will release the i25 next year.

I would expect S55's this year.

[tsecor]

maybe if we all chant loud enough......"S55....S55.....S55".........

[tsecor]

[quote name='theothertomjones' timestamp='1373412604' post='7420534']
[quote name='Bob57' timestamp='1373406612' post='7419964']
[quote name='winfield' timestamp='1373380502' post='7416562']
[quote name='Bob57' timestamp='1373380162' post='7416518']
[quote name='Big Ben' timestamp='1373211953' post='7402866']
Gorge cavity with gorge finish is my guess, should be sharp. Toss in a nice radius grind to improve bounce and BAM you have a winner winner chicken dinner...BB
[/quote]

Good point, It would certainly be a nice change to use the gorge finish as the satin chrome has been used for the last two cycles. It might help them sell a few more with a new finish. Introducing it now won't really impact their bottom line as this is their lowest volume club sales wise. Save the big stuff for next spring.

If TaylorMade is supposedly flooding the market with too much inventory, it begs the question why bring out a new driver. Probably more like the R1 and Stage 2 aren't selling, just like the Razr Fit Extreme wasn't selling so come with a new miracle club....


[/quote]

You seem to have the inside track. Are the S55 coming out in the fall or spring? I was going to consider them along with the new mizuno offering and the X forged.
[/quote]

As I said several reps. I spoke to also told their big accounts they would be seeing the S55 for fall release at their July sales meeting. Everything else is being delayed until next spring. I'm not sure when the sales meetings are (they used to be at the end of July) so any actual data hasn't been forthcoming.. These were U.S. based reps.---I have no idea what reps. around the world are being told...Until they get back with pictures and wholesale prices it all remains speculation. If they aren't releasing the S55s this fall then there would be no reason for a summer sales meeting---as of 2 weeks ago they still were going, so we shall I guess.
[/quote]


I have heard similar.

There wasnt enough technology difference between what they projected for the i25 this year and the current i20. They will release the i25 next year.

I would expect S55's this year.
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where are you guys "hearing" this stuff?

Ping isnt giving out any info.....just curious if this is real or not.....

[tsecor]

[quote name='JaxBeachNole' timestamp='1373409493' post='7420234']
Summer 2013 PDF shows pretty much the same stuff with the addition of Super Strokes.
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couple new shafts to I believe

[JaxBeachNole]

[quote name='tsecor' timestamp='1373467585' post='7424146']
[quote name='JaxBeachNole' timestamp='1373409493' post='7420234']
Summer 2013 PDF shows pretty much the same stuff with the addition of Super Strokes.
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couple new shafts to I believe
[/quote]

I must have missed them

[Dizz]

[quote name='tsecor' timestamp='1373456350' post='7423158']
[quote name='theothertomjones' timestamp='1373412604' post='7420534']
[quote name='Bob57' timestamp='1373406612' post='7419964']
[quote name='winfield' timestamp='1373380502' post='7416562']
[quote name='Bob57' timestamp='1373380162' post='7416518']
[quote name='Big Ben' timestamp='1373211953' post='7402866']
Gorge cavity with gorge finish is my guess, should be sharp. Toss in a nice radius grind to improve bounce and BAM you have a winner winner chicken dinner...BB
[/quote]

Good point, It would certainly be a nice change to use the gorge finish as the satin chrome has been used for the last two cycles. It might help them sell a few more with a new finish. Introducing it now won't really impact their bottom line as this is their lowest volume club sales wise. Save the big stuff for next spring.

If TaylorMade is supposedly flooding the market with too much inventory, it begs the question why bring out a new driver. Probably more like the R1 and Stage 2 aren't selling, just like the Razr Fit Extreme wasn't selling so come with a new miracle club....


[/quote]

You seem to have the inside track. Are the S55 coming out in the fall or spring? I was going to consider them along with the new mizuno offering and the X forged.
[/quote]

As I said several reps. I spoke to also told their big accounts they would be seeing the S55 for fall release at their July sales meeting. Everything else is being delayed until next spring. I'm not sure when the sales meetings are (they used to be at the end of July) so any actual data hasn't been forthcoming.. These were U.S. based reps.---I have no idea what reps. around the world are being told...Until they get back with pictures and wholesale prices it all remains speculation. If they aren't releasing the S55s this fall then there would be no reason for a summer sales meeting---as of 2 weeks ago they still were going, so we shall I guess.
[/quote]


I have heard similar.

There wasnt enough technology difference between what they projected for the i25 this year and the current i20. They will release the i25 next year.

I would expect S55's this year.
[/quote]

where are you guys "hearing" this stuff?

Ping isnt giving out any info.....just curious if this is real or not.....
[/quote]

The people that do know wouldn't say anything in a public forum.

[2putttom]

Secrecy is a good sells gimmick.

[tsecor]

Im just trying to see if I should wait for the s55's or pull the trigger on some mizunos. I wonder if Ping will open up the sales meeting to the public again

......this place has turned me into a club ho

[Dizz]

I can tell you they will not be forged so if you want forged and PING I would say enjoy your Anser irons... I know I am. PING (unlike a lot of OEM's) doesn't release a product until they can improve the current design... S56 is extremely hard to beat as far as performance and retaining a blade-like quality. There is only so much you can do moving CG, increasing forgiveness, etc without losing some of the characteristics that make them their blade style iron.

[duffer888]

I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority here, but I'd love the s55 to be closer to the s58 but with new grooves. And I'm hoping so as the picture seem to indicate this to me.

[3_Jack_Par]

[quote name='duffer888' timestamp='1373479257' post='7425680']
I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority here, but I'd love the s55 to be closer to the s58 but with new grooves. And I'm hoping so as the picture seem to indicate this to me.
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I'd be on board with that. I wouldn't be changing irons after this year if it wasn't for the groove rule change. Love my s58s, and I'd be glad if they were basically the same thing, though it kind of sucks to have to spend $1k+ for basically the same thing as what I already have. Thanks, USGA.

[tsecor]

the last 4 offerings from the s line all look somewhat similar.....how much different can we expect? I think someone stated that maybe the s55's will resemble the tour wedge gorge look.....I tend to agree

[Geaux Gators]

I still think my ansers feel awesome.

[herbygolf21]

[quote name='Ugo DeRosa' timestamp='1336534534' post='4877298']
The S55's are being released this fall- 100%, absolutely, positively. Sorry OP- Your source was not being truthful. Not trying to debate. If you don't believe it, no worries. The engineer you played with was simply being coy and playing the party line, hey, keep buying the S56's, we don't know when the S55's are coming out. Nothing wrong with that. All companies do it to avoid tanking sales on existing models.
[/quote]

HA HA HA! 100% absolutely positively fail!

[tsecor]

[quote name='Ping Gator' timestamp='1373546773' post='7430850']
I still think my ansers feel awesome.
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I just sold a set of Ansers and I agree, the feel of these were really nice.

[JGL]

my nome in the high alps says the sales meeting is still on in july

[Golf_LU]

[quote name='herbygolf21' timestamp='1373547882' post='7430918']
[quote name='Ugo DeRosa' timestamp='1336534534' post='4877298']
The S55's are being released this fall- 100%, absolutely, positively. Sorry OP- Your source was not being truthful. Not trying to debate. If you don't believe it, no worries. The engineer you played with was simply being coy and playing the party line, hey, keep buying the S56's, we don't know when the S55's are coming out. Nothing wrong with that. All companies do it to avoid tanking sales on existing models.
[/quote]

HA HA HA! 100% absolutely positively fail!
[/quote]

The funny thing was..I looked at this and thought the same exact thing.

[tsecor]

I just received a tweet from GOLF.com and there is no sign or tallk of any new ping clubs at the tournament this week....bummer