New PING S-series Iron / S55 / S-55(merged)

[goliath23]

I would like to see them go to a true blade. Or a progression set. Blade 7-pw and s56 type club for 3-6. If they made the topline identical (and slightly thinner than the current s56) and the offset progress very slightly as you go towards the lower lofted irons that would be amazing. Slightly less offset would be ok as well.

I hit the s56 the other day on the range outdoors against my 690 mb's and even with a lower flighted shaft (x100) , the s56 flew noticeably higher. They were longer than my 690's though even with the shaft being shorter as I play +0.5 in my irons.

[Rock Chalk Jayhawk]

[quote name='goliath23' timestamp='1372162529' post='7319454']
I would like to see them go to a true blade. Or a progression set. Blade 7-pw and s56 type club for 3-6. If they made the topline identical (and slightly thinner than the current s56) and the offset progress very slightly as you go towards the lower lofted irons that would be amazing. Slightly less offset would be ok as well.

I hit the s56 the other day on the range outdoors against my 690 mb's and even with a lower flighted shaft (x100) , the s56 flew noticeably higher. They were longer than my 690's though even with the shaft being shorter as I play +0.5 in my irons.
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The reason the s56 irons were longer is that the lofts are stronger. Loft effects distance more than shaft length in irons.

[Foreleft]

[quote name='bjive' timestamp='1372135193' post='7318680']
Too much offset for me in the Anser's. love the S series, looking forward seeing the s55's.

Worst case scenario, I go with s56's if the 55's don't do it for me.
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Only 3/100 difference on offset for 4 iron, 2/100 @ 6 iron and PW on Ansers has 1/100 offset less than 56's.

In practical terms, that is pretty close.

[Charliegolf]

[quote name='Rock Chalk Jayhawk' timestamp='1372163408' post='7319522']
[quote name='goliath23' timestamp='1372162529' post='7319454']
I would like to see them go to a true blade. Or a progression set. Blade 7-pw and s56 type club for 3-6. If they made the topline identical (and slightly thinner than the current s56) and the offset progress very slightly as you go towards the lower lofted irons that would be amazing. Slightly less offset would be ok as well.

I hit the s56 the other day on the range outdoors against my 690 mb's and even with a lower flighted shaft (x100) , the s56 flew noticeably higher. They were longer than my 690's though even with the shaft being shorter as I play +0.5 in my irons.
[/quote]

The reason the s56 irons were longer is that the lofts are stronger. Loft effects distance more than shaft length in irons.
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I think you will find the lofts are pretty similar actually... Ball speed is pretty good off the S56 irons!!

[bjive]

[quote name='Foreleft' timestamp='1372164030' post='7319586']
[quote name='bjive' timestamp='1372135193' post='7318680']
Too much offset for me in the Anser's. love the S series, looking forward seeing the s55's.

Worst case scenario, I go with s56's if the 55's don't do it for me.
[/quote]

Only 3/100 difference on offset for 4 iron, 2/100 @ 6 iron and PW on Ansers has 1/100 offset less than 56's.

In practical terms, that is pretty close.
[/quote]

Is that all?? They looked much more drastic than that to me... Interesting, how the eye perceives.

Maybe I am just convincing myself I don't want them...?

[Foreleft]

[quote name='bjive' timestamp='1372165000' post='7319660']
[quote name='Foreleft' timestamp='1372164030' post='7319586']
[quote name='bjive' timestamp='1372135193' post='7318680']
Too much offset for me in the Anser's. love the S series, looking forward seeing the s55's.

Worst case scenario, I go with s56's if the 55's don't do it for me.
[/quote]

Only 3/100 difference on offset for 4 iron, 2/100 @ 6 iron and PW on Ansers has 1/100 offset less than 56's.

In practical terms, that is pretty close.
[/quote]

Is that all?? They looked much more drastic than that to me... Interesting, how the eye perceives.

Maybe I am just convincing myself I don't want them...?
[/quote]

It may be how the hosel flows into he club head that you're not caring for?

[Rock Chalk Jayhawk]

[quote name='Charliegolf' timestamp='1372164049' post='7319588']
[quote name='Rock Chalk Jayhawk' timestamp='1372163408' post='7319522']
[quote name='goliath23' timestamp='1372162529' post='7319454']
I would like to see them go to a true blade. Or a progression set. Blade 7-pw and s56 type club for 3-6. If they made the topline identical (and slightly thinner than the current s56) and the offset progress very slightly as you go towards the lower lofted irons that would be amazing. Slightly less offset would be ok as well.

I hit the s56 the other day on the range outdoors against my 690 mb's and even with a lower flighted shaft (x100) , the s56 flew noticeably higher. They were longer than my 690's though even with the shaft being shorter as I play +0.5 in my irons.
[/quote]

The reason the s56 irons were longer is that the lofts are stronger. Loft effects distance more than shaft length in irons.
[/quote]

I think you will find the lofts are pretty similar actually... Ball speed is pretty good off the S56 irons!!
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32 deg for the 6 iron with the 690 MB. 30.5 deg for the s56

[tsecor]

[quote name='Charliegolf' timestamp='1372164049' post='7319588']
[quote name='Rock Chalk Jayhawk' timestamp='1372163408' post='7319522']
[quote name='goliath23' timestamp='1372162529' post='7319454']
I would like to see them go to a true blade. Or a progression set. Blade 7-pw and s56 type club for 3-6. If they made the topline identical (and slightly thinner than the current s56) and the offset progress very slightly as you go towards the lower lofted irons that would be amazing. Slightly less offset would be ok as well.

I hit the s56 the other day on the range outdoors against my 690 mb's and even with a lower flighted shaft (x100) , the s56 flew noticeably higher. They were longer than my 690's though even with the shaft being shorter as I play +0.5 in my irons.
[/quote]

The reason the s56 irons were longer is that the lofts are stronger. Loft effects distance more than shaft length in irons.
[/quote]

I think you will find the lofts are pretty similar actually... Ball speed is pretty good off the S56 irons!!
[/quote]
on mishits, the ball speed drops significantly (over 5 mph) while other clubs such as the ap1, ap2, mizzy jpx, the ball speed only drops by 3mph or so

[biglau]

[quote name='plus8' timestamp='1340536547' post='5157454']
Doesn't matter.... After 3 sets of Pings I jumped to Mizzies this year.... [size=2]will.....not.....buy....new....clubs......[/size]
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I'm considering doing the same, Ive been playing the s58s for some time now. Kind of anxious to see the s55s before I make a switch... it's just so weird to hit mizunos after playing ping for so long, just so much softer, kind of depends on the person's like/ dislikes.

[Charliegolf]

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[quote name='Charliegolf' timestamp='1372164049' post='7319588']
[quote name='Rock Chalk Jayhawk' timestamp='1372163408' post='7319522']
[quote name='goliath23' timestamp='1372162529' post='7319454']
I would like to see them go to a true blade. Or a progression set. Blade 7-pw and s56 type club for 3-6. If they made the topline identical (and slightly thinner than the current s56) and the offset progress very slightly as you go towards the lower lofted irons that would be amazing. Slightly less offset would be ok as well.

I hit the s56 the other day on the range outdoors against my 690 mb's and even with a lower flighted shaft (x100) , the s56 flew noticeably higher. They were longer than my 690's though even with the shaft being shorter as I play +0.5 in my irons.
[/quote]

The reason the s56 irons were longer is that the lofts are stronger. Loft effects distance more than shaft length in irons.
[/quote]

I think you will find the lofts are pretty similar actually... Ball speed is pretty good off the S56 irons!!
[/quote]
on mishits, the ball speed drops significantly (over 5 mph) while other clubs such as the ap1, ap2, mizzy jpx, the ball speed only drops by 3mph or so
[/quote]

If you are hitting AP2 or JPX you should be hitting i20 instead of S56 so of course they are not as forgiving on mishits... Gotta compare apples and apples!!

[Charliegolf]

[quote name='Rock Chalk Jayhawk' timestamp='1372165372' post='7319694']
[quote name='Charliegolf' timestamp='1372164049' post='7319588']
[quote name='Rock Chalk Jayhawk' timestamp='1372163408' post='7319522']
[quote name='goliath23' timestamp='1372162529' post='7319454']
I would like to see them go to a true blade. Or a progression set. Blade 7-pw and s56 type club for 3-6. If they made the topline identical (and slightly thinner than the current s56) and the offset progress very slightly as you go towards the lower lofted irons that would be amazing. Slightly less offset would be ok as well.

I hit the s56 the other day on the range outdoors against my 690 mb's and even with a lower flighted shaft (x100) , the s56 flew noticeably higher. They were longer than my 690's though even with the shaft being shorter as I play +0.5 in my irons.
[/quote]

The reason the s56 irons were longer is that the lofts are stronger. Loft effects distance more than shaft length in irons.
[/quote]

I think you will find the lofts are pretty similar actually... Ball speed is pretty good off the S56 irons!!
[/quote]

32 deg for the 6 iron with the 690 MB. 30.5 deg for the s56
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1 deg to 1.5 deg of loft is maybe 2 - 3 yards if you can even notice it so I think there may be something more to technology in the head...

[Rock Chalk Jayhawk]

[quote name='Charliegolf' timestamp='1372251551' post='7326760']
[quote name='Rock Chalk Jayhawk' timestamp='1372165372' post='7319694']
[quote name='Charliegolf' timestamp='1372164049' post='7319588']
[quote name='Rock Chalk Jayhawk' timestamp='1372163408' post='7319522']
[quote name='goliath23' timestamp='1372162529' post='7319454']
I would like to see them go to a true blade. Or a progression set. Blade 7-pw and s56 type club for 3-6. If they made the topline identical (and slightly thinner than the current s56) and the offset progress very slightly as you go towards the lower lofted irons that would be amazing. Slightly less offset would be ok as well.

I hit the s56 the other day on the range outdoors against my 690 mb's and even with a lower flighted shaft (x100) , the s56 flew noticeably higher. They were longer than my 690's though even with the shaft being shorter as I play +0.5 in my irons.
[/quote]

The reason the s56 irons were longer is that the lofts are stronger. Loft effects distance more than shaft length in irons.
[/quote]

I think you will find the lofts are pretty similar actually... Ball speed is pretty good off the S56 irons!!
[/quote]

32 deg for the 6 iron with the 690 MB. 30.5 deg for the s56
[/quote]

1 deg to 1.5 deg of loft is maybe 2 - 3 yards if you can even notice it so I think there may be something more to technology in the head...
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the s56 no doubt has lower CG, and is thus able to produce a higher flight with less loft. Plus, the perimeter tungsten weighting makes mishits on the toe more forgiving, leading to less distance loss on all shots missed toe-side of the sweet spot.

[tsecor]

[quote name='Charliegolf' timestamp='1372251424' post='7326740']
[quote name='tsecor' timestamp='1372207270' post='7324298']
[quote name='Charliegolf' timestamp='1372164049' post='7319588']
[quote name='Rock Chalk Jayhawk' timestamp='1372163408' post='7319522']
[quote name='goliath23' timestamp='1372162529' post='7319454']
I would like to see them go to a true blade. Or a progression set. Blade 7-pw and s56 type club for 3-6. If they made the topline identical (and slightly thinner than the current s56) and the offset progress very slightly as you go towards the lower lofted irons that would be amazing. Slightly less offset would be ok as well.

I hit the s56 the other day on the range outdoors against my 690 mb's and even with a lower flighted shaft (x100) , the s56 flew noticeably higher. They were longer than my 690's though even with the shaft being shorter as I play +0.5 in my irons.
[/quote]

The reason the s56 irons were longer is that the lofts are stronger. Loft effects distance more than shaft length in irons.
[/quote]

I think you will find the lofts are pretty similar actually... Ball speed is pretty good off the S56 irons!!
[/quote]
on mishits, the ball speed drops significantly (over 5 mph) while other clubs such as the ap1, ap2, mizzy jpx, the ball speed only drops by 3mph or so
[/quote]

If you are hitting AP2 or JPX you should be hitting i20 instead of S56 so of course they are not as forgiving on mishits... Gotta compare apples and apples!!
[/quote]
the comparison does not need to be apples to apples for this point. sorry

[DRRicks]

[quote name='Charliegolf' timestamp='1372251424' post='7326740']
[quote name='tsecor' timestamp='1372207270' post='7324298']
[quote name='Charliegolf' timestamp='1372164049' post='7319588']
[quote name='Rock Chalk Jayhawk' timestamp='1372163408' post='7319522']
[quote name='goliath23' timestamp='1372162529' post='7319454']
I would like to see them go to a true blade. Or a progression set. Blade 7-pw and s56 type club for 3-6. If they made the topline identical (and slightly thinner than the current s56) and the offset progress very slightly as you go towards the lower lofted irons that would be amazing. Slightly less offset would be ok as well.

I hit the s56 the other day on the range outdoors against my 690 mb's and even with a lower flighted shaft (x100) , the s56 flew noticeably higher. They were longer than my 690's though even with the shaft being shorter as I play +0.5 in my irons.
[/quote]

The reason the s56 irons were longer is that the lofts are stronger. Loft effects distance more than shaft length in irons.
[/quote]

I think you will find the lofts are pretty similar actually... Ball speed is pretty good off the S56 irons!!
[/quote]
on mishits, the ball speed drops significantly (over 5 mph) while other clubs such as the ap1, ap2, mizzy jpx, the ball speed only drops by 3mph or so
[/quote]

If you are hitting AP2 or JPX you should be hitting i20 instead of S56 so of course they are not as forgiving on mishits... Gotta compare apples and apples!!
[/quote]

Speaking of bad comparisons... AP2 and JPX????

[Charliegolf]

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[quote name='Charliegolf' timestamp='1372251424' post='7326740']
[quote name='tsecor' timestamp='1372207270' post='7324298']
[quote name='Charliegolf' timestamp='1372164049' post='7319588']
[quote name='Rock Chalk Jayhawk' timestamp='1372163408' post='7319522']
[quote name='goliath23' timestamp='1372162529' post='7319454']
I would like to see them go to a true blade. Or a progression set. Blade 7-pw and s56 type club for 3-6. If they made the topline identical (and slightly thinner than the current s56) and the offset progress very slightly as you go towards the lower lofted irons that would be amazing. Slightly less offset would be ok as well.

I hit the s56 the other day on the range outdoors against my 690 mb's and even with a lower flighted shaft (x100) , the s56 flew noticeably higher. They were longer than my 690's though even with the shaft being shorter as I play +0.5 in my irons.
[/quote]

The reason the s56 irons were longer is that the lofts are stronger. Loft effects distance more than shaft length in irons.
[/quote]


I think you will find the lofts are pretty similar actually... Ball speed is pretty good off the S56 irons!!
[/quote]
on mishits, the ball speed drops significantly (over 5 mph) while other clubs such as the ap1, ap2, mizzy jpx, the ball speed only drops by 3mph or so
[/quote]

If you are hitting AP2 or JPX you should be hitting i20 instead of S56 so of course they are not as forgiving on mishits... Gotta compare apples and apples!!
[/quote]
the comparison does not need to be apples to apples for this point. sorry
[/quote]
I think that's exactly the point. You might as well throw Rocketbladez and X Hot in there too then. Of course the mishits on those will have higher ball speeds because they are designed to be more forgiving. S56 is more like a Titleist CB in performance than AP2 or MB for that matter.

[tsecor]

gotcha.......my numbers of the s56 were super close to the ap2s.....thanks

[kobra520]

S59 with a lot less offset, or a s56 with more muscle especially in 6-w. Forging would be a lot more beneficial in the s line than in the anser line, and as a s56 and s59 user they would maybe perform better than a muscle back (forgiveness and trajectory control) and feel better and sound better. Maybe like a mizuno mp69 mp64 and mp59 on steroids. I would definitely pay $1200 for a set with normal dg's.

[bjive]

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[quote name='bjive' timestamp='1372165000' post='7319660']
[quote name='Foreleft' timestamp='1372164030' post='7319586']
[quote name='bjive' timestamp='1372135193' post='7318680']
Too much offset for me in the Anser's. love the S series, looking forward seeing the s55's.

Worst case scenario, I go with s56's if the 55's don't do it for me.
[/quote]

Only 3/100 difference on offset for 4 iron, 2/100 @ 6 iron and PW on Ansers has 1/100 offset less than 56's.

In practical terms, that is pretty close.
[/quote]

Is that all?? They looked much more drastic than that to me... Interesting, how the eye perceives.

Maybe I am just convincing myself I don't want them...?
[/quote]

It may be how the hosel flows into he club head that you're not caring for?
[/quote]

I think your right, it looks to me, that it is a little aggressive - the flow into the club head, which probably makes it look more offset.

[tsecor]

[quote name='kobra520' timestamp='1372302962' post='7332182']
S59 with a lot less offset, or a s56 with more muscle especially in 6-w. Forging would be a lot more beneficial in the s line than in the anser line, and as a s56 and s59 user they would maybe perform better than a muscle back (forgiveness and trajectory control) and feel better and sound better. Maybe like a mizuno mp69 mp64 and mp59 on steroids. I would definitely pay $1200 for a set with normal dg's.
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$999 forged S55's is the ticket......how many sets of forged Ansers have sold at $1499? cant be that many.....

[bjive]

I hope the S55's are not forged - all I want is an upgrade on the 56's, if not, I will just go to 56's.

[patrick421]

[quote name='tsecor' timestamp='1372335596' post='7333314']
[quote name='kobra520' timestamp='1372302962' post='7332182']
S59 with a lot less offset, or a s56 with more muscle especially in 6-w. Forging would be a lot more beneficial in the s line than in the anser line, and as a s56 and s59 user they would maybe perform better than a muscle back (forgiveness and trajectory control) and feel better and sound better. Maybe like a mizuno mp69 mp64 and mp59 on steroids. I would definitely pay $1200 for a set with normal dg's.
[/quote]

$999 forged S55's is the ticket......how many sets of forged Ansers have sold at $1499? cant be that many.....
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There can't be many at all. I've been looking for months for a used set on here or ebay and there have only been a couple that were way off on lie angle for me to purchase. I'd love to get a set, being a lefty I've never hit them since the stores around me don't carry them. I love my 56s but I'm wondering if a little extra forgiveness in the 4-5 irons may do me some good.

[bjive]

[quote name='patrick421' timestamp='1372376964' post='7338198']
[quote name='tsecor' timestamp='1372335596' post='7333314']
[quote name='kobra520' timestamp='1372302962' post='7332182']
S59 with a lot less offset, or a s56 with more muscle especially in 6-w. Forging would be a lot more beneficial in the s line than in the anser line, and as a s56 and s59 user they would maybe perform better than a muscle back (forgiveness and trajectory control) and feel better and sound better. Maybe like a mizuno mp69 mp64 and mp59 on steroids. I would definitely pay $1200 for a set with normal dg's.
[/quote]

$999 forged S55's is the ticket......how many sets of forged Ansers have sold at $1499? cant be that many.....
[/quote]



There can't be many at all. I've been looking for months for a used set on here or ebay and there have only been a couple that were way off on lie angle for me to purchase. I'd love to get a set, being a lefty I've never hit them since the stores around me don't carry them. I love my 56s but I'm wondering if a little extra forgiveness in the 4-5 irons may do me some good.
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Just replace your s56 4&5 irons with a couple of i15 or i20 4&5 irons.

[patrick421]

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[quote name='patrick421' timestamp='1372376964' post='7338198']
[quote name='tsecor' timestamp='1372335596' post='7333314']
[quote name='kobra520' timestamp='1372302962' post='7332182']
S59 with a lot less offset, or a s56 with more muscle especially in 6-w. Forging would be a lot more beneficial in the s line than in the anser line, and as a s56 and s59 user they would maybe perform better than a muscle back (forgiveness and trajectory control) and feel better and sound better. Maybe like a mizuno mp69 mp64 and mp59 on steroids. I would definitely pay $1200 for a set with normal dg's.
[/quote]

$999 forged S55's is the ticket......how many sets of forged Ansers have sold at $1499? cant be that many.....
[/quote]



There can't be many at all. I've been looking for months for a used set on here or ebay and there have only been a couple that were way off on lie angle for me to purchase. I'd love to get a set, being a lefty I've never hit them since the stores around me don't carry them. I love my 56s but I'm wondering if a little extra forgiveness in the 4-5 irons may do me some good.
[/quote]

Just replace your s56 4&5 irons with a couple of i15 or i20 4&5 irons.
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That's definitely an option I've thought about but the offset in the 4 and 5 irons looks weird to me in the i20s. I actually owned them for a while but eventually went back to the 56s. The anser 4 and 5 irons could have the same offset as the i20s for all I know I've never held a lefty model so I have no idea. I'm assuming someone can answer that for me. How do the ansers compare to the i20s as far as size and offset are concerned? Not to thread jack or stray from the s55 conversations or anything I'm just intrigued by the ansers.

[tsecor]

I just sold a set of ansers.....I loved em. Much better feel compared to the i20.....you can really feel the technology and soft feel of the forged pings....its a high quality club.....That's why I hope the s55's are forged. Ping has their own foundry and a s55 forged would be sick!!!......as long as they are not 1500 dollars

[BluePrints2]

I hope S55 will be a more blade version, so people like me who dont have the game for S55 irons will go to the S56.

[Dillinger]

I have been reading different threads about the S55 irons but can someone tell me is there any proof that there is a S55 iron? If so has anyone been told by a Ping rep when it will be released for sure? Or is all this speculation?

[Foreleft]

[quote name='Dillinger' timestamp='1372392117' post='7339594']
I have been reading different threads about the S55 irons but can someone tell me is there any proof that there is a S55 iron? If so has anyone been told by a Ping rep when it will be released for sure? Or is all this speculation?
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I have not heard of anyone that has any hard info. All just speculation at this point.

[BNich0622]

All speculation and rumors. But there is a Billy Horschel WITB video where he mentions s55 irons coming out in the summer if I remember correctly.

[Vindog]

[quote name='Dillinger' timestamp='1372392117' post='7339594']
I have been reading different threads about the S55 irons but can someone tell me is there any proof that there is a S55 iron? If so has anyone been told by a Ping rep when it will be released for sure? Or is all this speculation?
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It's been 3 years just about. Something's got to be coming. Most think some pics might be "leaked" around the Open Championship.

[tsecor]

I tweeted PING yesterday...they responded below

 

 

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   @PingTour when will we see the s55s?
   

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   PING GOLF ‏
   @ShamrocksGolf No updates on new product at the moment, but keep an eye on our website for future release dates. Thanks!