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Aim very slightly to the right.

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Gee, we're on page 2 of this thread and nobody has suggested checking the grip of the putter! We all tend to aim visually but our hands know square in relationship to the putter grip as applied to the putter. I would suggest that perhaps your grip is off square.

Now if the grip is square... you have to be super critical when looking at the flat of the grip face vs. the supposed 90 degree face angle of the head of the putter.... then we have to look at the opinion expressed by Irish.... you may be over compensating for mis-aiming the putter.

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[quote name='PuttingDoctor' timestamp='1369964202' post='7139782']
Gee, we're on page 2 of this thread and nobody has suggested checking the grip of the putter! We all tend to aim visually but our hands know square in relationship to the putter grip as applied to the putter. I would suggest that perhaps your grip is off square.

Now if the grip is square... you have to be super critical when looking at the flat of the grip face vs. the supposed 90 degree face angle of the head of the putter.... then we have to look at the opinion expressed by Irish.... you may be over compensating for mis-aiming the putter.
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Touche Doc!

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Simple36 was correct - you want a putter with more "toe hang". Our research shows that the placement of the shaft axis well inside the CG of the putter allows the putter to open more on the backswing which helps the left miss. Most people will close the putter at approx the same amount regardless of the amount of "toe hang".

Adding lead tape will not change your Anser style. I would try something heel-shafted and see what happens.

There are other variables which could cause a left miss but start there.

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[quote name='mws92' timestamp='1370156531' post='7152884']
Simple36 was correct - you want a putter with more "toe hang". Our research shows that the placement of the shaft axis well inside the CG of the putter allows the putter to open more on the backswing which helps the left miss. Most people will close the putter at approx the same amount regardless of the amount of "toe hang".

Adding lead tape will not change your Anser style. I would try something heel-shafted and see what happens.

There are other variables which could cause a left miss but start there.
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[quote name='mws92' timestamp='1370156531' post='7152884']
Simple36 was correct - you want a putter with more "toe hang". Our research shows that the placement of the shaft axis well inside the CG of the putter allows the putter to open more on the backswing which helps the left miss. Most people will close the putter at approx the same amount regardless of the amount of "toe hang".

Adding lead tape will not change your Anser style. I would try something heel-shafted and see what happens.

There are other variables which could cause a left miss but start there.
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Yes sir !

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This is going to sound silly but have you tried moving it farther back in your stance? You're probably closing the face on it so if you move in farther back (before the face gets shut) you might start hitting it online

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[quote name='That Bob Guy' timestamp='1370169033' post='7153082']
[quote name='mws92' timestamp='1370156531' post='7152884']
Simple36 was correct - you want a putter with more "toe hang". Our research shows that the placement of the shaft axis well inside the CG of the putter allows the putter to open more on the backswing which helps the left miss. Most people will close the putter at approx the same amount regardless of the amount of "toe hang".

Adding lead tape will not change your Anser style. I would try something heel-shafted and see what happens.

There are other variables which could cause a left miss but start there.
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Like the Shea H I just added to my collection? Thanks for the imput!
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That putter flat out makes putts! My dad made 4 in a row at the store yesterday and 8/10 from 15 feet. Looks like he knows what he is getting for Father's Day! Also it's nice to see someone with the same opinion as me. It seems to me like a face balanced would cause him to miss even more left! I went from and odyssey #1 where was,issuing everything to the right to a face balanced and I am not missing a lot less to the right if at all. I think it really depends on your stroke also with what type of putter you want. Are you SBST, slight arc or strong arc?

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[quote name='simple36' timestamp='1370179189' post='7153438']
[quote name='That Bob Guy' timestamp='1370169033' post='7153082']
[quote name='mws92' timestamp='1370156531' post='7152884']
Simple36 was correct - you want a putter with more "toe hang". Our research shows that the placement of the shaft axis well inside the CG of the putter allows the putter to open more on the backswing which helps the left miss. Most people will close the putter at approx the same amount regardless of the amount of "toe hang".

Adding lead tape will not change your Anser style. I would try something heel-shafted and see what happens.

There are other variables which could cause a left miss but start there.
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Like the Shea H I just added to my collection? Thanks for the imput!
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That putter flat out makes putts! My dad made 4 in a row at the store yesterday and 8/10 from 15 feet. Looks like he knows what he is getting for Father's Day! Also it's nice to see someone with the same opinion as me. It seems to me like a face balanced would cause him to miss even more left! I went from and odyssey #1 where was,issuing everything to the right to a face balanced and I am not missing a lot less to the right if at all. I think it really depends on your stroke also with what type of putter you want. Are you SBST, slight arc or strong arc?
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I'd say slight arc.

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Long time ago a rep showed me a little drill, draw or string a straight line on the intended path you want to putt. Make the stroke and see if you are crossing the line right away or if you track straight down the line. I was pulling across the line horribly and once I stopped that everything was good.

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Before you jump it might be important to know where you're starting from. If you are overcompensating for a right aim tendency then a toe hang putter may help you to rotate more.

iPing does not quantify stroke shape, only rotation. If you start 3* open and then square at impact you'll find a reading of 3* closed. Fan the club face on a SBST stroke and it will tell you strong arc.

Find a SAM PuttLab for the results of stroke analysis.

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[quote name='PuttingDoctor' timestamp='1370260899' post='7158692']
Before you jump it might be important to know where you're starting from. If you are overcompensating for a right aim tendency then a toe hang putter may help you to rotate more.

iPing does not quantify stroke shape, only rotation. If you start 3* open and then square at impact you'll find a reading of 3* closed. Fan the club face on a SBST stroke and it will tell you strong arc.

Find a SAM PuttLab for the results of stroke analysis.
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Is there one in Vegas?

Thanks Doc!

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I've read too that more toe hang encourages the face to turn over more in the down stroke, but my experience is the complete opposite. A face balanced putter for me misses left. The feeling is that the head doesn't open up enough on the back stroke, so I when I go to hit the ball on the down stroke the head feels too square to the path, and then I turn it over so slightly in the down stroke and miss it left. Could be a tempo issue perhaps. I can imagine that if you were to wait for the head to reach the top of the back stroke like a true pendulum, then toe hang would turn the face over in the down stroke. But if you rush the start of the down stroke before the head has had a chance to arrive at the top of the back swing and cleared all its momentum from the back stroke, then that could lead to the head "lagging" behind and opening up in the transition with more toe hang. I probably rush the down stroke a little.

That's my theory anyway, and would explain how people can have different experiences with toe hang and misses.

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