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Hey guys here are some comparison pictures between the R1 TD5 (shallow version) and the retail Black R1 head. These are shockingly different heads. To be honest I thought they were very similar however the TD5 is much more shallow(about .5".) It looks almost like the RBZ non tour head from last year. The TD5 is slightly higher launching and higher spinning than the V2 head. These are being used by several pros including Justin Rose and Luke Donald.

 

Earlier this year it was said by several people that these were being used over the v2 and these were just the retail head. Just to clarify to the best of my knowledge there is not a single R1 retail head on tour. There are several versions this year. Here is what I have seen

 

V1- retail head, not on tour

V2- TD1, TD2, TD3, 85% of the R1's in play are this model

V3- TD8, 400cc designed for sergio maybe 1 or 2 in play.

Shallow Head- TD5, 10-15% of the R1s are this model.

 

I have also seen a TD2 with one dot and another with two dot, from what I was told these are different CG.

 

 

 

 

 

 

TD5

 

 

Retail

 

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[quote name='willpeoples' timestamp='1372088669' post='7313152']
Hey guys here are some comparison pictures between the R1 TD5 (shallow version) and the retail Black R1 head. These are shockingly different heads. To be honest I thought they were very similar however the TD5 is much more shallow(about .5".) It looks almost like the RBZ non tour head from last year. The TD5 is slightly higher launching and higher spinning than the V2 head. These are being used by several pros including Justin Rose and Luke Donald.

Earlier this year it was said by several people that these were being used over the v2 and these were just the retail head. Just to clarify to the best of my knowledge there is not a single R1 retail head on tour. There are several versions this year. Here is what I have seen

V1- retail head, not on tour
V2- TD1, TD2, TD3, 85% of the R1's in play are this model
V3- TD8, 400cc designed for sergio maybe 1 or 2 in play.
Shallow Head- TD5, 10-15% of the R1s are this model.

I have also seen a TD2 with one dot and another with two dot, from what I was told these are different CG.

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Thanks for posting this info Will!

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[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1372089023' post='7313212']
[quote name='kekoa' timestamp='1372088932' post='7313200']
great info will. any comparo pics at adress?

man, with all those versions I'm thoroughly confused.
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Lol, me too. I'd like to own one of each though...
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Its always the same with TMAG isn't it? At the end of the season there will be 10 different versions and everyone is confused.

 


 

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[quote name='Golfingfanatic' timestamp='1372089297' post='7313244']
[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1372089023' post='7313212']
[quote name='kekoa' timestamp='1372088932' post='7313200']
great info will. any comparo pics at adress?

man, with all those versions I'm thoroughly confused.
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Lol, me too. I'd like to own one of each though...
[/quote]
Its always the same with TMAG isn't it? At the end of the season there will be 10 different versions and everyone is confused.
[/quote]

Not to mention the adjustability factor. I mean with 5 different versions of the R1 and upteen adjustability options...thoroughly mind boggling.

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Not surprised they went with a shallower face, especially since it seemed ALL the pro's seemed to got from RBZ Tour to Standard RBZ heads thru the year...I liked the RBZ Tour 9...but when I put my preferred shaft in a 9.5 RBZ Standard head...BOOM!! Just felt hotter, softer, explosive!

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Callaway 2019 Apex Pro DOT 4-PW Mits MMT 125 TX/ Vega Mizar Tour Oban CT 115 X
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great info will thanks! as you mentioned the TD5 head (and esp. the face) look very similar to last years non tour RBZ which I still have and love. I was planning to look for a V2 (TD2), but now I am really wishing I could get my hands on a TD5.. it could be the perfect R1 for me :)

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[quote name='willpeoples' timestamp='1372090359' post='7313374']
Might be, however the TD5 has been out all year, I never heard anything about the speed head until a few weeks ago. I do remember the RBZ non tour head had a higher ball speed than the regular tour RBZ.
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[quote name='willpeoples' timestamp='1372090359' post='7313374']
Might be, however the TD5 has been out all year, I never heard anything about the speed head until a few weeks ago. I do remember the RBZ non tour head had a higher ball speed than the regular tour RBZ.
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The Edwin Watts driver test really liked the glued RBZ ball speed wise..I know that has nothing to do with this Tour Head, but in a way it just might!

I like the look of this head!

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Thats a really good question. I thought I saw it on the USGA list the other day, maybe I was mistaken. Surely its conforming as Justin Rose just won with one, unless his win didnt count! :beruo:

http://www.golfwrx.com/97226/justin-rose-witb/

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Do they get all these versions by having bad quality control at the factory and then just test them all and give them new names
<SARCASM>
Good lord that's a lot of different versions of the same head

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[quote name='willpeoples' timestamp='1372203374' post='7323890']
Thats a really good question. I thought I saw it on the USGA list the other day, maybe I was mistaken. Surely its conforming as Justin Rose just won with one, unless his win didnt count! :beruo:

http://www.golfwrx.com/97226/justin-rose-witb/
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Wow. Wouldn't it be a shocker if JR won the US Open with a non conforming driver, and has his title stripped.

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[quote name='golfware' timestamp='1372221821' post='7325720']
Thx WILL!! Further reasons for my utter lack of desire these days for TM. If you're a Tour player, you'd love them. They'll do all sorts of protos for their Tour staff. For us "average Joe's", we get crap. Utter crap that not only professional, highly skilled player would play. Ugh.
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pretty much my sentiment, i'll stay with other companies because of this.........plus i don't have the ungodly amount of money to pony up for any of these.

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[quote name='Golfingfanatic' timestamp='1372089297' post='7313244']
[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1372089023' post='7313212']
[quote name='kekoa' timestamp='1372088932' post='7313200']
great info will. any comparo pics at adress?

man, with all those versions I'm thoroughly confused.
[/quote]

Lol, me too. I'd like to own one of each though...
[/quote]
Its always the same with TMAG isn't it? At the end of the season there will be 10 different versions and everyone is confused.
[/quote]Nice huh, kinda like a custom made suit, if you know what I mean.... Stay positive.

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Driver - Taylormade Sim Max 9* Tensei White 
Fairway Wood - Tour Edge EXS Pro 13.5* Tensei Blue 

Hybrid - Tour Edge EXS Pro 17* Tensei Blue

Irons - Titleist (2020) T100 w/ TT tour issued X100 120's 4-PW
Wedges - Titleist Vokey SM8, w/ TT tour issued X100 120's
Putter - Mizuno M-Craft 2 Black Series

Balls - Mostly Taylormade Lethal, or TP5, and sometimes Titleist AVS 

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[quote name='golfware' timestamp='1372221821' post='7325720']
Thx WILL!! Further reasons for my utter lack of desire these days for TM. If you're a Tour player, you'd love them. They'll do all sorts of protos for their Tour staff. For us "average Joe's", we get crap. Utter crap that not only professional, highly skilled player would play. Ugh.
[/quote]Spoken as if it's not the same for ALL other manufactures. The only difference is either they're not available to us average Joe's OR they don't offer anything different from retail to Tour (which of course is an example of why a Luke Donald, and many other players of other manufactures play a Taylormade driver) and is why they (manufacturer) are non-existant from week to week. For the most part of course.

My 2021 WTB:
Driver - Taylormade Sim Max 9* Tensei White 
Fairway Wood - Tour Edge EXS Pro 13.5* Tensei Blue 

Hybrid - Tour Edge EXS Pro 17* Tensei Blue

Irons - Titleist (2020) T100 w/ TT tour issued X100 120's 4-PW
Wedges - Titleist Vokey SM8, w/ TT tour issued X100 120's
Putter - Mizuno M-Craft 2 Black Series

Balls - Mostly Taylormade Lethal, or TP5, and sometimes Titleist AVS 

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i just had a range session using my buddy's V2 last night and loved it. a much better sound and feel, that for me produced consistent low bombs- moreso than my v1 which I already love. its a lot of coin for a V2 but I'll find the right time to acquire one soon :) I do wish I could try the TD5 for a range session also, as that shallow face (like the RBZ standard head) could fit my game really nicely also.

Will- I saw one you have on the bay.. so tempting. just wish I had less non-golf expenses at the moment!!

TaylorMade Stealth 10.5
Titleist 906F4
TaylorMade Stealth 3 Hybrid
Mizuno JPX850 Forged 4-PW
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Scotty Phantom X7
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[quote name='drifter12' timestamp='1372293246' post='7331056']
i just had a range session using my buddy's V2 last night and loved it. a much better sound and feel, that for me produced consistent low bombs- moreso than my v1 which I already love. its a lot of coin for a V2 but I'll find the right time to acquire one soon :) I do wish I could try the TD5 for a range session also, as that shallow face (like the RBZ standard head) could fit my game really nicely also.

Will- I saw one you have on the bay.. so tempting. just wish I had less non-golf expenses at the moment!!
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I finally had a good swing day this afternoon and I only missed 2 Fairways with my V2. The club FEELS amazing and has nice Ting when you nut one. I didn't think my R11s V2 could be debagged, I was wrong, the R1 V2 is SERIOUS..... :golfer:

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Taylormade Stealth 2+ 15 (@14.50) Fujikura Motore Speeder 8.1S Tipped .5"
Callaway Apex "21" 19/3H Aldila Rogue Black TS95 Tipped .5"
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Taylormade P750 7-PW P770 5i-6i DG AMT White S300
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How are these heads compared to the burner tp long hosel in terms of distance, forgiveness, and workability? On par or better with that plus adjustability= keeper!

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Will,
By my count there are 8 different versions of Taylormade's R1, the 1 driver that fits everyone.
Do you think we will see more versions coming later it the year?

I've seen a few folks talking about a V4, is that the same as the TD5? I thought the TD5 and the one people were calling the V5 were the same.

Thanks for always having the scoop sir, will be picking up some more gear from you soon :)

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