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54 minutes ago, tw422 said:

Completely agree.  If you can't hit it straight you lose a ton of balls.

 

Yup. Fairly straightforward holes, but there is absolutely no room for error off the tee. With the stepped design, most holes have only a few yards of rough. Miss that and you're toast. Add in some wind and it's a heck of a test. 

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21 minutes ago, flushem said:

just bring extra balls.  then you should be at peace.

 

Lol. The course opened last Thursday. I fished 5 Pro V1s, and one TP5 out of the water today. Gotta love high-end courses. 

 

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42 minutes ago, Chanceman said:

I played a course in California, San Juan Oaks from memory, and my ball went into a ravine or gulch across the fairway where there was a Beware Rattlesnake sign. Undeterred i went looking for my ball - a hopeless but amazing sight awaited me, hundreds of brand new Pro VIs lying about waiting for me to collect them. I filled my boots and did not buy a new ball for a couple of years.

then come stack balls in Cali and travel to AZ. 

 

My club, Black Gold is like the one you mentioned above.  Lotta good quality stray balls but gotta look out for rattlers.  Sometimes you deposit more and other times you withdraw more.

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1 hour ago, Chanceman said:

I played a course in California, San Juan Oaks from memory, and my ball went into a ravine or gulch across the fairway where there was a Beware Rattlesnake sign. Undeterred i went looking for my ball - a hopeless but amazing sight awaited me, hundreds of brand new Pro VIs lying about waiting for me to collect them. I filled my boots and did not buy a new ball for a couple of years.

 

My record is 36 Pro V1s at La Cantera Resort (Palmer) in San Antonio. As part of the green fee they gave players a sleeve of PV1s. I was playing as a single behind five foursomes in an afternoon outing, and I was going nowhere. There were balls galore, but most of them were buried in the thorny scrub lining the course. My handy ball retriever allowed to snatch three dozen. Quite the haul. 

 

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GC of Estrella, Goodyear, AZ 

 

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11 hours ago, Golf10 said:

 

Argonne,

 

What did you think of Estrella?

 

It was my second time playing it. I thought it was decent, but there are a large number of meh holes. The 7th, 9th, 16th, 17th, and 18th are fun. A few too many homes on the course for my liking. It was flatter than I recall the first time. Overall it's a solid course, and if I lived closer I'd probably play it on a regular basis. However, I think there are better courses in the valley for similar greens fees, e.g. Verrado.

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Raven GC, Phoenix, AZ. 

 

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1 minute ago, CDM said:

 

What did you think of it?  I played it over the holidays.  

 

Excellent course. It doesn't feel like an Arizona course. More like Florida or the Carolinas. Generous fairways, and good use of bunkering. 

 

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On 2/25/2021 at 2:26 PM, Argonne69 said:

 

Excellent course. It doesn't feel like an Arizona course. More like Florida or the Carolinas. Generous fairways, and good use of bunkering. 

 

 

I played Ak Chin and Raven when I was there over the holidays.  Being from Colorado Raven seemed "normal" to some extent LOL. Ak Chin I think might be the best in the area....imho.  Honestly I should of played a desert course but It was location and timing plus not wanting the wife to be upset as I tossed it in the day we landed.  I would agree on your statement. I thought it was great too overall. 

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On 2/16/2021 at 1:03 PM, Argonne69 said:

Sterling Grove GC, Surprise, AZ. A Jack Nicklaus design that opened last Thursday. 

 

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Full photo set: Sterling Grove

 


 

I work there, it’s a great golf course.  I have been playing there since the Friday before Thanksgiving.  Now open to general public it’s taking a beating.  
 

 

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Starr Pass GC, Tucson, AZ. 

 

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Fairway? 

 

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Full photo set: Starr Pass

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