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[quote name='DoYouKnowTheMuffinMan' timestamp='1375241875' post='7573704']

I honestly think the biggest difference is not necessarily course management but COURSE STRATEGY. I know I stick to my strategy and think a shot ahead. My strategy is based on my common miss so if I do miss, i already know what im going to be faced with for the most part. In other words: play to your strengths.

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Thanks for this MuffinMan, solid insight.

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I don't understand this thread. Why wouldn't a scratch golfer have a better feel for all shots on how the ball is going to react? Its like if you compare an F1 driver to some kid that is learning to drive stick, who is gonna be able to react to driving conditions better? No surprise that the better golfer is more equipped for every circumstance.
[quote name='sleepy_augusto' timestamp='1375324824' post='7580488']
In an effort to keep this thread going, I'll ask a question: What do scratch players see as the difference between their game and low handicap players? There are hundreds of reasons possible and given, but really why can't others score?
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I think the typical difference you between a 0 and a 5 are the ability to score from unideal positions, as well as keeping big numbers away. scratches know when to punch out and not to take a crazy line on the punch, hit a wedge in and make bogey at worst. Also have a better feel for shots so if they have a 130 yard punch shot they can probably get it around the green or on and make par. Little stuff like that, which adds up to a few shots over the course of a round.

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Good players just play and don't over think....there is no proper way...they just don't melt down with endless bullxxxx like it's complicated...it's an easy game made difficult by GOLFWRXer's...

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I just remember reading something that the difference between a tour and scratch player is the tour player's ability from various locations a lot better than a scratch player.

A slightly funny store, one of my coaches was a former Ryder Cup player and his lessons are always about how to play this shot or the probability of that shot. He did tell me that if the ball is in a hole, chip very upright with the toe in the hole. It will come out nicely. Last week, I was working on my chipping with another coach, who is a scratch player. He mentioned that some people chip very upright. I showed him the toe in the hole shot and he was dead impressed.

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I have been around 5-7 for many, many years. Between 2009 and 2012 I played regularly in a group where most of the players were substantially better than me. The group included several current and former plus handicappers.

Those who broke par regularly had a combination of distance, precision and willpower that was good enough to make at least 3-4 birdies without aid from the golfing gods. That was about twice as many as I was good for. The ability to make birdies is to me the most significant difference between 5 and scratch.

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make a couple more birdies and the ability to keep a big score off the card and bounce back from it. ie. making a bogey then not making another bogey after that by sloppy play, but actually par or better.

I also think even 5 hcappers go at way more pins than they should. a lot I play with see the flag get the flag yardage and fire away. no thought to the dangers of missing and short siding etc or just hitting a 5 iron to the middle of the green and having a putt from 25 feet rather than trying to hit a 4 iron to that back left pin with a bunker next to it.

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[quote name='TigerStrong' timestamp='1375328001' post='7580848']
Good players just play and don't over think....there is no proper way...they just don't melt down with endless bullxxxx like it's complicated...it's an easy game made difficult by GOLFWRXer's...
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+1

Good golf is boring, fairways and greens and picking the "right" target at the right time, this comes with experience.
Good golf also has more to do with imagination, flair and feel rather than being technically perfect (unachievable).

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[size=4]Completely agree with "[color=#282828][background=rgb(247, 247, 247)]Good players just play and don't over think....there is no proper way". There is a difference between playing and practicing. I think we (I play to about an 11) can get caught in the training mode on the course instead of trusting. One shot at a time and not over thinking the scores have helped me a lot recently. [/background][/color][/size]

[size=4][color=#282828][background=rgb(247, 247, 247)]What I would like to know is about the short game. I am a fairly good putter, I don't three putt that often. I'm pretty good with chip shots just off the green. If the pin is within 20 yards, I'm pretty confident. My issue is the 75-100 yards and in shots. The 20-50 yard pitch shots are really tough for me. I'm not even sure where the normal shot stops and pitch shot starts, or even what a 'pitch shot' is for that matter (I've watched all of the normal techniques on youtube and have just been confused).[/background][/color][/size]

[color=#282828][background=rgb(247, 247, 247)]So in short, what do you do to get good at around the green shots? Is practice structured or more loose? I have access to a range, but I think non-deliberate practice is more harmful than good. [/background][/color][color=#282828][background=rgb(247, 247, 247)] [/background][/color][color=#282828][background=rgb(247, 247, 247)] [/background][/color]

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make a couple more birdies and the ability to keep a big score off the card and bounce back from it. ie. making a bogey then not making another bogey after that by sloppy play, but actually par or better.

I also think even 5 hcappers go at way more pins than they should. a lot I play with see the flag get the flag yardage and fire away. no thought to the dangers of missing and short siding etc or just hitting a 5 iron to the middle of the green and having a putt from 25 feet rather than trying to hit a 4 iron to that back left pin with a bunker next to it.
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Good points here. Just keep in mind, it only takes one birdie to erase a bogey, but it takes two to replace that double.

It's a duh comment, but I see so many people do just that and it can ruin a round pretty quick trying to get a double back in one swing.

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[size=4]Completely agree with "[color=#282828][background=rgb(247, 247, 247)]Good players just play and don't over think....there is no proper way". There is a difference between playing and practicing. I think we (I play to about an 11) can get caught in the training mode on the course instead of trusting. One shot at a time and not over thinking the scores have helped me a lot recently. [/background][/color][/size]

[size=4][color=#282828][background=rgb(247, 247, 247)]What I would like to know is about the short game. I am a fairly good putter, I don't three putt that often. I'm pretty good with chip shots just off the green. If the pin is within 20 yards, I'm pretty confident. My issue is the 75-100 yards and in shots. The 20-50 yard pitch shots are really tough for me. I'm not even sure where the normal shot stops and pitch shot starts, or even what a 'pitch shot' is for that matter (I've watched all of the normal techniques on youtube and have just been confused).[/background][/color][/size]

[color=#282828][background=rgb(247, 247, 247)]So in short, what do you do to get good at around the green shots? Is practice structured or more loose? I have access to a range, but I think non-deliberate practice is more harmful than good. [/background][/color][color=#282828][background=rgb(247, 247, 247)] [/background][/color][color=#282828][background=rgb(247, 247, 247)] [/background][/color]
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To get good at the 100 yard and in shots you should first try to master your yardages. Even put a label on your shafts that remind you how far each shot goes. Get a yardage for
1. full wedge
2. half choked wedge
3. full choked wedge
4. 3/4 wedge
5. 1/2 wedge
Once you have those yardages down precisely, you should be able to choose your shot easily and not second guess yourself. Again this is a confidence thing for most people. If you are certain you can make a 1/2 wedge shot go X amount of yards it doesnt seem so difficult anymore.

Then find a place where you can practice various yardages simultaneously. Hit 2 or 3 full wedge shots, then change your target and hit 2 or 3 half wedges, change your target and hit 2 or 3 choked down full wedges etc. Any more than 3 balls at the same target and you are likely to be dialing in on that swing... which you cant do in competition so it is not the best to hit a whole bucket of balls to 1 target.

For a 50 yard shot... take this advice from the master.. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZWPee66M1s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZWPee66M1s[/url]

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[quote name='sleepy_augusto' timestamp='1375324824' post='7580488']
In an effort to keep this thread going, I'll ask a question: What do scratch players see as the difference between their game and low handicap players? There are hundreds of reasons possible and given, but really why can't others score?
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I have often sat and pondered this question. Big BIG part of the equation is consistency. The other thing I see a lot is when higher single digit and up put the blinders on. Most of the 8 and up handicappers get a yardage to a flag and fire away almost like they got so caught up in the yardage that they are oblivious any other trouble they could get into. This comes back to my theory of thinking a shot ahead and playing to your strengths... Back right flag, 178 yards... they try to hit the ball 178 yards with disregard that if they hit it 180 on accident they are in the back bunker, in the back water, in the back rough leaving a tough shot to get up and down to save par. A scratch player will weigh in the trouble when picking their yardage. Sure the pin might be 178 yards but it might only be 155 to carry the front bunker... so you have a 23 yard safe zone. Split that in half and play that as your yardage. Play it at 165-170. The only time I dont try to play to the safe side of the hole is when i have a wedge in my hand or if i do it on accident. On top of that, a scratch normally has a fundamentally sound short game around the greens, which leads to more putts dropping because they are shorter. It really comes down to eliminating the blowup hole by utilizing the high percentage shot. But hey if your strength is hitting short side bunker shots/ flops to a downhill green, by all means go for the stick every chance you get

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[quote name='sleepy_augusto' timestamp='1375324824' post='7580488']
In an effort to keep this thread going, I'll ask a question: What do scratch players see as the difference between their game and low handicap players? There are hundreds of reasons possible and given, but really why can't others score?
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I have often sat and pondered this question. Big BIG part of the equation is consistency. The other thing I see a lot is when higher single digit and up put the blinders on. Most of the 8 and up handicappers get a yardage to a flag and fire away almost like they got so caught up in the yardage that they are oblivious any other trouble they could get into. This comes back to my theory of thinking a shot ahead and playing to your strengths... Back right flag, 178 yards... they try to hit the ball 178 yards with disregard that if they hit it 180 on accident they are in the back bunker, in the back water, in the back rough leaving a tough shot to get up and down to save par. A scratch player will weigh in the trouble when picking their yardage. Sure the pin might be 178 yards but it might only be 155 to carry the front bunker... so you have a 23 yard safe zone. Split that in half and play that as your yardage. Play it at 165-170. The only time I dont try to play to the safe side of the hole is when i have a wedge in my hand or if i do it on accident. On top of that, a scratch normally has a fundamentally sound short game around the greens, which leads to more putts dropping because they are shorter. It really comes down to eliminating the blowup hole by utilizing the high percentage shot. But hey if your strength is hitting short side bunker shots/ flops to a downhill green, by all means go for the stick every chance you get
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All good advice here. That is something that I notice when playing with my dad and my younger brother. Dad zaps the flag at 150 and tries to hit it 150. I've been talking through the shots with my younger brother and he's getting tons better at thinking about a shot an not just playing the yardage.

150 yards, little downhill/sidehill lie, pin back with hazard long, little left to right wind. That shot doesn't play 150 and you shouldn't probably consider hitting it over 140....

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This is reiterating what I was saying about the trap off hardpan.
[url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5J43wMQXZ4&list=PLAE1ABB9308A42944"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5J43wMQXZ4&list=PLAE1ABB9308A42944[/url]

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My observation and experience.

The better players get up and play the shot, take care of business and in the words of Nike they just do it. The reason for this is because they can.

Many good golfers just have a knack for sports, balance and general dexterity not every sport perhaps but a lot of them.

In growing up I never had a football lesson, cricket or rugby lesson, yet I represented my school and county in two of them. I have other good golf friends who are great surfers and others who do all the odd things really well like juggling or darts! All scratch and plus golfers playing around forty rounds a year (long winter lay-offs) several of these never visit the range, and I mean never.

I'm talking about scratch golfers who shoot from three under to four over on their home courses around 7,100, they are club champions and one has won four different course club championships, one of those is at his childhood course (he maintains a long distance membership) his last trip home coincided with the club championship and he shot 141 (-3) in wet and windy conditions to win by six, he hadn't played the course in three years and did this with borrowed clubs and a hard ball (first round) that he said was all he found in the borrowed bag!

I've met many a golfer who work at their games, get fitted, take lessons you know do all the right things and maybe gain or shot or two. That too can be very satisfying, but the difference from these guys (assuming that they're the 5-6 low handicap mentioned earlier in this thread) is very large from the guys I talked about in the previous paragraph, and usually the longer or more difficult the course or conditions the more obvious the gulf becomes.

If you can, you'll find a way, if you can't, you spend all your time looking for a way. There often is no way.

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Really good players are good from the time they first pick up the club--scratch usually within a few years. This is because their dominant arm is their lead arm or they are cross dominant. This allows them to easily control the forward arm so that it can define the arc or radius of the swing which is the most critical element of the the golf swing. If your dominant arm is the rearward arm is dominant it it will always be a struggle to play well and require a lot of practice and play.

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[quote name='DoYouKnowTheMuffinMan' timestamp='1375394074' post='7586256']
[quote name='sleepy_augusto' timestamp='1375324824' post='7580488']
In an effort to keep this thread going, I'll ask a question: What do scratch players see as the difference between their game and low handicap players? There are hundreds of reasons possible and given, but really why can't others score?
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I have often sat and pondered this question. Big BIG part of the equation is consistency. The other thing I see a lot is when higher single digit and up put the blinders on. Most of the 8 and up handicappers get a yardage to a flag and fire away almost like they got so caught up in the yardage that they are oblivious any other trouble they could get into. This comes back to my theory of thinking a shot ahead and playing to your strengths... Back right flag, 178 yards... they try to hit the ball 178 yards with disregard that if they hit it 180 on accident they are in the back bunker, in the back water, in the back rough leaving a tough shot to get up and down to save par. A scratch player will weigh in the trouble when picking their yardage. Sure the pin might be 178 yards but it might only be 155 to carry the front bunker... so you have a 23 yard safe zone. Split that in half and play that as your yardage. Play it at 165-170. The only time I dont try to play to the safe side of the hole is when i have a wedge in my hand or if i do it on accident. On top of that, a scratch normally has a fundamentally sound short game around the greens, which leads to more putts dropping because they are shorter. It really comes down to eliminating the blowup hole by utilizing the high percentage shot. But hey if your strength is hitting short side bunker shots/ flops to a downhill green, by all means go for the stick every chance you get
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May God always bless you for this golden info. I'm being serious. Everybody is either a swing guru or wants to see a swing guru. Lots of books about "fixing" your swing. But this stuff? This is what I would pay cash to read about.

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[quote name='DoYouKnowTheMuffinMan' timestamp='1375155636' post='7566216']

To me, those little wedge shots seem so simple. To him it was like I opened his mind to a whole new world of secrets. I felt like I had given him so much knowledge in so little teaching.

I know many WRXers won't ask but is there any shot you have trouble hitting that some better players can make easier for you? This experience with my dad has shed some light on a new world of thinking for me. Is is really that easy that just a simple "been there, tried that, that works, this doesn't" tip will help that much?
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The guy was just ready for the learning but had never remembered to revisit the problem and think it out, else he would have solved it long ago. It happens to a lot of people. You just happened to open a door he failed to unlock for himself.

We learn to swing but we build our own games by understanding our clubs, swing and personal limitations and what we can do with what we got. Some people get a solution and are content. Others will try to take that solution apart to it's working parts and learn to apply those parts to other problems which may sometimes seem unrelated but are actually closely related and from there move on to variations of the theme. It's what makes the game interesting. The people who become habituated to the game are those who enjoy creating their solutions to problems they encounter on the fairway and making it work.


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[quote name='dreich54311' timestamp='1375568225' post='7598740']
Really good players are good from the time they first pick up the club--scratch usually within a few years. This is because their dominant arm is their lead arm or they are cross dominant. This allows them to easily control the forward arm so that it can define the arc or radius of the swing which is the most critical element of the the golf swing. If your dominant arm is the rearward arm is dominant it it will always be a struggle to play well and require a lot of practice and play.
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ummmm.....I know quite a few that claim their dominant arm as their rear arm.....wasn't Ben hogan one of them with the whole 3 right hands bit?

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[quote name='dreich54311' timestamp='1375568225' post='7598740']
Really good players are good from the time they first pick up the club--scratch usually within a few years. This is because their dominant arm is their lead arm or they are cross dominant. This allows them to easily control the forward arm so that it can define the arc or radius of the swing which is the most critical element of the the golf swing. If your dominant arm is the rearward arm is dominant it it will always be a struggle to play well and require a lot of practice and play.
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ummmm.....I know quite a few that claim their dominant arm as their rear arm.....wasn't Ben hogan one of them with the whole 3 right hands bit?
[/quote] This poster repeatedly pursues this claim I see no merit in his claim or his previous empirical evidence.

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[quote name='dreich54311' timestamp='1375568225' post='7598740']
Really good players are good from the time they first pick up the club--scratch usually within a few years. This is because their dominant arm is their lead arm or they are cross dominant. This allows them to easily control the forward arm so that it can define the arc or radius of the swing which is the most critical element of the the golf swing. If your dominant arm is the rearward arm is dominant it it will always be a struggle to play well and require a lot of practice and play.
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ummmm.....I know quite a few that claim their dominant arm as their rear arm.....wasn't Ben hogan one of them with the whole 3 right hands bit?
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I'm 99% sure that hogan was left handed, like Garcia. It was just his feel for adding power at that point in his swing

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Here's a thought: I make 90 percent of my birdies on the same 7 holes on my home course. I average 4 per round. On all other holes, I tell myself that "par is a good score" sometimes on those holes I accidentally hit it close or chip in or make a 30-40 footer. But I'm not trying to!!! I can't tell you how many doubles i see when my buddies try to birdie the wrong holes. Guys on tour in the last 3 groups are good enough and playing well enough that week to try to birdie the "wrong " holes. An average 5 simply shouldn't. Learn that and you'll be a 1 or 2 in a month.

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Here's a thought: I make 90 percent of my birdies on the same 7 holes on my home course. I average 4 per round. On all other holes, I tell myself that "par is a good score" sometimes on those holes I accidentally hit it close or chip in or make a 30-40 footer. But I'm not trying to!!! I can't tell you how many doubles i see when my buddies try to birdie the wrong holes. Guys on tour in the last 3 groups are good enough and playing well enough that week to try to birdie the "wrong " holes. An average 5 simply shouldn't. Learn that and you'll be a 1 or 2 in a month.
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Of course the difficult part is to make the 4 birdies.

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[quote name='isaacbm' timestamp='1375757924' post='7613248']
Here's a thought: I make 90 percent of my birdies on the same 7 holes on my home course. I average 4 per round. On all other holes, I tell myself that "par is a good score" sometimes on those holes I accidentally hit it close or chip in or make a 30-40 footer. But I'm not trying to!!! I can't tell you how many doubles i see when my buddies try to birdie the wrong holes. Guys on tour in the last 3 groups are good enough and playing well enough that week to try to birdie the "wrong " holes. An average 5 simply shouldn't. Learn that and you'll be a 1 or 2 in a month.
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Of course the difficult part is to make the 4 birdies.
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It shouldn't be if your a low hcp heading towards scratch.
The above advice is gold. Another way I do things is divide my course into 6 's and try and play the first 6 in level, 2nd 6 in -2 and the final 6 in -2 as well. This is "my" base line for my course, don't get me wrong I don't shoot -4 every round but that's my aim.

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[quote name='Lefthook' timestamp='1375770538' post='7614134']
[quote name='isaacbm' timestamp='1375757924' post='7613248']
Here's a thought: I make 90 percent of my birdies on the same 7 holes on my home course. I average 4 per round. On all other holes, I tell myself that "par is a good score" sometimes on those holes I accidentally hit it close or chip in or make a 30-40 footer. But I'm not trying to!!! I can't tell you how many doubles i see when my buddies try to birdie the wrong holes. Guys on tour in the last 3 groups are good enough and playing well enough that week to try to birdie the "wrong " holes. An average 5 simply shouldn't. Learn that and you'll be a 1 or 2 in a month.
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Of course the difficult part is to make the 4 birdies.
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Yes that is true but getting to a plus handicap level means you have to make three or four birdies a round, especially at your home course. Getting from a 5 to a 2 on a course rated 74 means you need 2 or 3 birdies to go with your 5 or 6 bogies. Get rid of the doubles and you only have to par half of the holes. I don't know what your course is rated but 6 bogies is A LOT of forgiveness. Turn the 6 into 3 and suddenly you're a scratch.

The point is that you don't have to birdie every damn hole. Just focus on the easy ones. And then play safe on the rest. We're not talking about getting on tour here, just getting to a 0....

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      Piretti putters - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Ping putter - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Kevin Dougherty's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Bettinardi putter - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Cameron putter - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Erik Barnes testing an all-black Axis1 putter – 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Tony Finau's new driver shaft – 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Valspar Championship WITB Photos (Thanks to bvmagic)- Discussion & Links to Photos
      This weeks WITB Pics are from member bvmagic (Brian). Brian's first event for WRX was in 2008 at Bayhill while in college. Thanks so much bv.
       
      Please put your comments or question on this thread. Links to all the threads are below...
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Monday #1
      2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Monday #2
      2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Monday #3
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Matt (LFG) Every - WITB - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      Sahith Theegala - WITB - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Cameron putters (and new "LD" grip) - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      New Bettinardi MB & CB irons - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      Custom Bettinardi API putter cover - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      Custom Swag API covers - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      New Golf Pride Reverse Taper grips - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Cognizant Classic - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #1
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #2
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #3
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #4
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Brandt Snedeker - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Max Greyserman - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Eric Cole - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Carl Yuan - WITb - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Russell Henley - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Justin Sun - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Alex Noren - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Shane Lowry - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Taylor Montgomery - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Jake Knapp (KnappTime_ltd) - WITB - - 2024 Cognizant Classic
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Super Stoke Pistol Lock 1.0 & 2.0 grips - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      LA Golf new insert putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      New Garsen Quad Tour 15 grip - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      New Swag covers - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Jacob Bridgeman's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Bud Cauley's custom Cameron putters - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Ryo Hisatsune's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Chris Kirk - new black Callaway Apex CB irons and a few Odyssey putters - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Alejandro Tosti's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Genesis Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Monday #1
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Monday #2
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #1
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #2
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #3
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #4
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Rory McIlroy - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Sepp Straka - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Patrick Rodgers - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Brendon Todd - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Denny McCarthy - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Corey Conners - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Chase Johnson - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tommy Fleetwood - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Matt Fitzpatrick - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Si Woo Kim - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Viktor Hovland - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Wyndham Clark - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Cam Davis - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Nick Taylor - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Ben Baller WITB update (New putter, driver, hybrid and shafts) – 2024 Genesis Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Vortex Golf rangefinder - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      New Fujikura Ventus shaft - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods & TaylorMade "Sun Day Red" apparel launch event, product photos – 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods Sun Day Red golf shoes - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Aretera shafts - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      New Toulon putters - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods' new white "Sun Day Red" golf shoe prototypes – 2024 Genesis Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
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