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I bet Tiger already plays the equipment that gives him the very best shot at winning. He's not bagging blades because it makes his Witb on wrx looks cool.

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Jumping on the bandwagon here to say if Tiger Woods used only iron, he'd probably win more. It seems like when he is in "course management" mode and hitting 2-3 irons off the tee, he's playing very well.

His iron play is out of this world.

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[quote name='TWshoot67' timestamp='1378088212' post='7783865']
No It's the putter. His driver had always been the way it is,,,, sometimes its on and sometimes it's off. Tiger hit 16/18 green in round 2 and missed like 2 fairways. He didn't make a putt he had 29 putts. When Tiger was dominating he made every putt he looked at or so it appeared that way. He would have been right in the mix again this week if the putter worked in round 2. His irons are the least of his problems.
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The balky driver puts way more stress on his putter because he's hitting longer clubs in.

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[quote name='dan360' timestamp='1378114802' post='7784825']
Jumping on the bandwagon here to say if Tiger Woods used only iron, he'd probably win more. It seems like when he is in "course management" mode and hitting 2-3 irons off the tee, he's playing very well.

His iron play is out of this world.
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The problem is, at one point he could win on any course hitting 3 wood or less. Today, others match his length and he is putting himself in a hole on many courses.

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I saw one of Tiger's mid irons in person right before he got in cheating trouble. What I saw was a wear spot that was higher than the pic posted above. It was surprisig actually because I expected it to look like that 8i pic above. It was just as centered and tight, but without a doubt a little higher on the face.

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Here's a picture of tiger woods' 8 iron..... make your own decision about his iron play

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thats the pic I was thinking of!

Weird pic. Looks like a bit low on the face, no?

 

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Here's a picture of tiger woods' 8 iron..... make your own decision about his iron play

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thats the pic I was thinking of!

Weird pic. Looks like a bit low on the face, no?

 

It looks like a GI 8-iron as it is pretty big, in fact it is huge. My 8-iron does not look that big. I am sure most players on the PGA have the mark in the same spot.

 

Tiger just cannot stay with the young guys anymore. They are too good. Right now Tiger is 15 shots behind the leader. Jack would never be there. Tiger needs to go back to Butch but even that cannot turn back the years.

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Here's a picture of tiger woods' 8 iron..... make your own decision about his iron play

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thats the pic I was thinking of!

Weird pic. Looks like a bit low on the face, no?

 

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Well if your hitting down on it...could it get much higher on the face and still be able to control it?

 

Remember this set was used in the "Tiger Slam" year so pretty much his best golf. Maybe he hits to high on the face now? :)

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Here's a picture of tiger woods' 8 iron..... make your own decision about his iron play

Item_6890_3.jpg

thats the pic I was thinking of!

Weird pic. Looks like a bit low on the face, no?

 

Tiger just cannot stay with the young guys anymore. They are too good. Right now Tiger is 15 shots behind the leader. Jack would never be there. Tiger needs to go back to Butch but even that cannot turn back the years.

 

That's kinda my point with this thread, the rest of golf has gotten rocketballzier-ier and have just barely caught up to Tiger who is still gaming his old school blades. So what I'm getting at here is say Tiger threw some RocketBlades (or Nikes equivalent of course)in the bag, would it put him back out front now that he would be playing the same new technology as the "Young Guys"?

 

Golf gear has evolved soo much since Tiger was winning it all, most other golfers have moved on to the newer gear witch is getting better every year(or so we're told to believe) and Tiger still playing tiny hard to hit blades. maybe if he used GI irons and didn'-t have to focus quite so hard on his irons he could focus more on his Driver. Plus with his stellar ball striking, the added forgiveness could get him in closer, softer to every pin he fires at, helping him have to putt less. Just my two cents, not that it means much :)

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I think it'd be fun to watch Tiger try and play clubs with about 1/4-3/8ths inch offset and perimeter weighting designed to help get the ball up n the air.....

Then his iron play would be would be worse than his driver and putter and we'd have something new to talk about.

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Here's a picture of tiger woods' 8 iron..... make your own decision about his iron play

Item_6890_3.jpg

thats the pic I was thinking of!

Weird pic. Looks like a bit low on the face, no?

 

Tiger just cannot stay with the young guys anymore. They are too good. Right now Tiger is 15 shots behind the leader. Jack would never be there. Tiger needs to go back to Butch but even that cannot turn back the years.

 

That's kinda my point with this thread, the rest of golf has gotten rocketballzier-ier and have just barely caught up to Tiger who is still gaming his old school blades. So what I'm getting at here is say Tiger threw some RocketBlades (or Nikes equivalent of course)in the bag, would it put him back out front now that he would be playing the same new technology as the "Young Guys"?

 

Golf gear has evolved soo much since Tiger was winning it all, most other golfers have moved on to the newer gear witch is getting better every year(or so we're told to believe) and Tiger still playing tiny hard to hit blades. maybe if he used GI irons and didn'-t have to focus quite so hard on his irons he could focus more on his Driver. Plus with his stellar ball striking, the added forgiveness could get him in closer, softer to every pin he fires at, helping him have to putt less. Just my two cents, not that it means much :)

 

If that picture is Tiger's 8 iron than the face is as big as GI irons. It looks like my GI irons. BTW - I also have older Wilson blades and the Wilson 8-iron in nowhere near as big as Tiger's 8 iron.

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Ty Ty, as my 3yr old calls him is clearly not the same putter that won the US Open on a broken leg. He used to hit not so crisp iron shots (Steve's fault for the most part) and poor drives from time to time but his putting, which most attributed to his mental invincibility is what set him so far apart from the the other top ranked 50 golfers on the globe. What I see now in the majors is, the added pressure that's he places on himself along with broom stick wielders who all of a sudden are empowered on the greens of Augusta and the like, along with his normal occasional errant drive (produced in part by swing thoughts on the tee box, out with the old, in with the new swing type of deal) that aren't as easily erased with the putter. No matter if its a Scotty, Nike method or Piretti, or sgi or blade a tiger is a tiger. My vote is the mental game with the putter. Jack didn't deal with the broomsticks, which is unfortunate for Ty Ty but still, a tiger is a tiger!

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That's clearly a blade. Gi iron are you guys out of it? The 8 iron is the last iron to have a more rounded face in blades similar to a PW. The 7 then has a straighter top line.

The spot is a little low but not terribly low. When you strike down on it you're going to have that pattern. Would expect it to be a groove higher though, maybe I hit it too high on the face, my wear spot is a groove higher than that.

I will say this. If any of you have played blades for any amount of time you will know what I mean when I say you won't play anything else because they look like **** shovels. Nor does anything else feel as good as a pured blade. Tiger doesn't need to change his irons. When he is playing well he hits it dead on the number every time. Which is usually every week. If he would have made a putt he would have contended. This week it was his driver and putter that kept him from scoring well. He burnt so many edges it was crazy. He had 31 and 32 putts on Sunday and monday. That's not his irons that gave him trouble. Albeit he was loose off the tee and his proximity wasn't great. But everyone has an off week.

Gotta say though. His Friday and saturday swing was different than Sunday Monday. He was swinging beautifully and on a much different tempo.

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I bet Tiger already plays the equipment that gives him the very best shot at winning. He's not bagging blades because it makes his Witb on wrx looks cool.
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Great post. What people seem to forget is these GI irons are for people who can't hit the ball like Tiger, people like us. Even if your a 5 handicap your not hitting the ball like Tiger or any PGA pro for that matter. Most if not all GI irons help the player with getting the ball in the air and help with miss hits. Tiger has no problem hitting the ball high and he doesn't have too many miss hits. Heck Tiger still hits some of the most majestic 3,4,5 iron shots that drop out of the sky on long par 3's while other pro's are hitting rescues to try and hold some of these longer par 3's. Tiger's iron game is just fine. There's no going back to the old Tiger winning 10 times in a season with 2-3 majors. There's only the Tiger that can only win 5 events so far this year with 2 more left for him to possibly win the FEDEX CUP in the smallest field with the best players. it's really hard for now for Tiger to play like the Tiger of old, because now he's all washed up////// just ask all the haters they will tell you how bad his swing is and how he can't win. heck just ask that guy on GC who critiques everything Tiger does good or bad! The same guy who had to put his clubs away for a TV job because he knows exactly what you should do in a swing but can't do it himself. Mr. Brandee Shampooo

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[quote name='TWshoot67' timestamp='1378088212' post='7783865']
No It's the putter. His driver had always been the way it is,,,, sometimes its on and sometimes it's off. Tiger hit 16/18 green in round 2 and missed like 2 fairways. He didn't make a putt he had 29 putts. When Tiger was dominating he made every putt he looked at or so it appeared that way. He would have been right in the mix again this week if the putter worked in round 2. His irons are the least of his problems.
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The balky driver puts way more stress on his putter because he's hitting longer clubs in.
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Tiger's driver has always been balky as you say, he just made a lot more putts. I don't think he's got this new swing engrained 100% like his other 2 previous swings and he's still won 5 times this year. But with all these pro's it's the guy who putts the best is the one that wins come Sunday. I'm not saying the driver in fairways doesn't help and hitting it closer with irons don't help. But when you hit 16/18 greens and 14/16 fairways. You shouldn't have 29 putts. If you watched at all and listened to the stats Tiger didn't make a putt in the last 3 rounds this week over 10 ft. You need to make some 15-25 footers to win. PERIOD


PS: The guy wins 30 to 50 percent of the events he plays in (in his lifetime) so I'm not sure what else the guy can do other then win every single event, hit every single fairways and shoot a perfect round of golf for people to understand how good this guys game is. Tiger misses some fairways, but most times that stat is just so over blown. When you hit a drive 2 inches or 20 yards off fairway, the stat says missed fairway. Most times Tiger is trying to hit to a side of the fairway to get best angle for approach shot like most pro's. We all have good days and bad days it's just when tiger has a bad day it's not allowed. Phil, Ernie, you name the guy never get ripped for their play when it goes south as much as Tiger does, and it's funny everyone thinks they know what will fix Tiger's game. I feel it's just fine Tiger can't play like 2000-2002 all the time. Remember he still is the only player this year with 5 wins.

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[quote name='nochct1' timestamp='1378178350' post='7788897']
He's won 5 times this year! He doesn't need to change anything.
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I agree to an extent. he just needs to make more putts and he would have more then 5 wins this past tourney was lost on 2nd round like I shown Tiger's stats in previous posts. Tiger had 29 putts. Thats just not good and Tiger would be the first to admit as much. Tiger is still the best golfer and when he's on no one is even close. We still have 2 more events and he could win both. Heck I was personally hoping he would rest his back this past week and come on strong for the last two events. All we can do is see if he gets back that game he had at Firestone this next week and if he does all is well with Tiger having 6 wins. :taunt:

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