Been working on iron striking

[JustChill]

Hey guys. Background: 9 cap, been really working on iron striking to get away from hitting it off the toe. Let me know what you see

 

Sorry they are vertical

 

https://www.youtube....eature=youtu.be

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=-cZGYAGqfk8

[trippelhej]

For me it looks like the club is too short.

Correct me if im wrong

[Reasonability]

JC

Thank you for sharing. I can give you another set of eyes having played for over 45 years and as someone who loves to study the swing. This one is pretty much from golfer to golfer. Hopefully more and better comes from a credentialed teaching professional. WRX has a few very good ones who chime in.

The first thing I see is in your setup. Ideally if there were a straight vertical line extending straight up from the arches of the feet (or at the outside most the balls of the feet) here is what should be seen from down the line:

1) There is an area where the back of the upper arms connect to the armpits, They would be on that line. The knees would be at best touching if not just barely behind that same line. For an iron like that (looks like about a 6 iron?)... your eyes should come close (doesn't have to be perfect but close) seeing the right pointer finger being right over the toes. So you appear instead to be set up with the knees out over the toes and the rest of the upper body therefore also to far in that direction. It may feel at first that correcting this makes you feel too much back on the heels at address. The correct amount of rear end hanging back behind the heels plus the correct forward bend from the waist will get you balanced right over the arches of both feet.

2) If we turn the face on view - your shoulders are almost level. By just an inch or so - bump your left hip toward the target without pulling the head with it or resetting the feet - just a tiny bump with the left hip. This is slightly drop your right shoulder and give you what is called a secondary spine tilt (the primary tilt being your bending forward from the hip sockets). This will barely raise the left hip higher than the right hip as well - almost imperceptibly.

Take a good look at yourself from down-the-line at the top of your backswing from the waist up. You have a nice flat left wrist, your shoulders have turned perpendicular to your spine angle -- that's some good stuff right there and you do NOT want that to go away - except for one thing -- if you can keep that overall structure but get the right elbow to land a little more under the bent right wrist - you will find it MUCH easier in the downs swing to work the right elbow in front of your turning hips. In fact just thinking of keeping the hands and handle in front of the chest as deeply as possible going back and letting them travel together as much as possible down and through again (with that right elbow sort of leading the right wrist coming down -- then you will be able to unhinge the wrists through the shot effortlessly and without feeling like the hands and arms have to throw the clubhead through the shot.

The above paragraph is about turning the body and quieting the hands. Once you're in a great setup - and not swinging as much out and over the toes -- then it becomes easier to do all that. You would be in fact just turning around your address spine set up and the "throw" converts into unhinging.

I hope this is taken in the spirit its given. Best to you out there and hopefully more and better stuff comes along behind what I picked up on. Best to you!

[JustChill]

[quote name='trippelhej' timestamp='1414177769' post='10345291']
For me it looks like the club is too short.

Correct me if im wrong
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You might be right. I have never been fitted. This is a 6 iron that is 37.5 inches in length. I'm about 6'3

[quote name='Reasonability' timestamp='1414182323' post='10345635']
JC

Thank you for sharing. I can give you another set of eyes having played for over 45 years and as someone who loves to study the swing. This one is pretty much from golfer to golfer. Hopefully more and better comes from a credentialed teaching professional. WRX has a few very good ones who chime in.

The first thing I see is in your setup. Ideally if there were a straight vertical line extending straight up from the arches of the feet (or at the outside most the balls of the feet) here is what should be seen from down the line:

1) There is an area where the back of the upper arms connect to the armpits, They would be on that line. The knees would be at best touching if not just barely behind that same line. For an iron like that (looks like about a 6 iron?)... your eyes should come close (doesn't have to be perfect but close) seeing the right pointer finger being right over the toes. So you appear instead to be set up with the knees out over the toes and the rest of the upper body therefore also to far in that direction. It may feel at first that correcting this makes you feel too much back on the heels at address. The correct amount of rear end hanging back behind the heels plus the correct forward bend from the waist will get you balanced right over the arches of both feet.

2) If we turn the face on view - your shoulders are almost level. By just an inch or so - bump your left hip toward the target without pulling the head with it or resetting the feet - just a tiny bump with the left hip. This is slightly drop your right shoulder and give you what is called a secondary spine tilt (the primary tilt being your bending forward from the hip sockets). This will barely raise the left hip higher than the right hip as well - almost imperceptibly.

Take a good look at yourself from down-the-line at the top of your backswing from the waist up. You have a nice flat left wrist, your shoulders have turned perpendicular to your spine angle -- that's some good stuff right there and you do NOT want that to go away - except for one thing -- if you can keep that overall structure but get the right elbow to land a little more under the bent right wrist - you will find it MUCH easier in the downs swing to work the right elbow in front of your turning hips. In fact just thinking of keeping the hands and handle in front of the chest as deeply as possible going back and letting them travel together as much as possible down and through again (with that right elbow sort of leading the right wrist coming down -- then you will be able to unhinge the wrists through the shot effortlessly and without feeling like the hands and arms have to throw the clubhead through the shot.

The above paragraph is about turning the body and quieting the hands. Once you're in a great setup - and not swinging as much out and over the toes -- then it becomes easier to do all that. You would be in fact just turning around your address spine set up and the "throw" converts into unhinging.

I hope this is taken in the spirit its given. Best to you out there and hopefully more and better stuff comes along behind what I picked up on. Best to you!
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Thank you so much. I never felt hunched over, but I can definitely see it in the video. Is your second point saying to have the right elbow closer tucked to the body at the top of the backswing?

[Reasonability]

It doesn't need to be pinned against your side - that would not be at all good. Somewhere around 6 inches away from the seam down the right side of your shirt, and under the grip -- that would be a little better in my opinion. Best to you!