Distance and handicaps for 14 year olds

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  • isaacbmisaacbm Posts: 3,272 ✭✭
    Tony Ireland



    What do you think are the weight requirements to hit the ball a long distance? Jamie Sadlowski weighs about 160 and carries it 400...



    15 year old here in Calgary swings at 112 miles per hour. He just shot 69,68 to win a tournament in Alberta this past weekend. He's 5'8" and not 130 lbs in a soaking wet wool sweater. I was watching him on flight scope and his worst swing was still 108 mph. His ball speed was over 160 every single time.



    I know some juniors stretch the truth. I would not dispute that claim. I'm just saying that there's more to speed than body mass.
  • W2_GolferW2_Golfer Jr. Boomers Posts: 569
    I posted my swing video on here you can believe me or not but I'm usually in the mid 70's.

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  • Chip InChip In Jr. Boomers Posts: 244 ✭✭
    lol? Mid 70's with THAT swing? You've got to be kidding right?
  • Tony_IrelandTony_Ireland Members Posts: 710 ✭✭
    isaacbm wrote:


    Tony Ireland



    What do you think are the weight requirements to hit the ball a long distance? Jamie Sadlowski weighs about 160 and carries it 400...



    15 year old here in Calgary swings at 112 miles per hour. He just shot 69,68 to win a tournament in Alberta this past weekend. He's 5'8" and not 130 lbs in a soaking wet wool sweater. I was watching him on flight scope and his worst swing was still 108 mph. His ball speed was over 160 every single time.



    I know some juniors stretch the truth. I would not dispute that claim. I'm just saying that there's more to speed than body mass.




    No weigh requirements to hit the ball a long distance, i dont care what Jamie weighs, the kids a freak (big difference in 120 and 160lbs by the way)...All i said is i have to see it to believe it, ive never seen a 15 yr old 120lb kid on a course hit driver anywhere near 300, so yeah i would like to see it with my own eyes
  • W2_GolferW2_Golfer Jr. Boomers Posts: 569
    edited May 4, 2012 #66
    Chip In wrote:


    lol? Mid 70's with THAT swing? You've got to be kidding right?


    What is so wrong with my swing that would prevent me from playing well. Please explain.
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    rofl...
  • Mikey KMikey K Lefty Boomers Posts: 385
    isaacbm wrote:


    Tony Ireland



    What do you think are the weight requirements to hit the ball a long distance? Jamie Sadlowski weighs about 160 and carries it 400...



    15 year old here in Calgary swings at 112 miles per hour. He just shot 69,68 to win a tournament in Alberta this past weekend. He's 5'8" and not 130 lbs in a soaking wet wool sweater. I was watching him on flight scope and his worst swing was still 108 mph. His ball speed was over 160 every single time.



    I know some juniors stretch the truth. I would not dispute that claim. I'm just saying that there's more to speed than body mass.




    He hits his COMPETITION driver with a 400 yard carry. He hits his regular driver with a 350 carry. Just to give you a perspective on how big of a swing he has his ball speed is 218 mph. Probably about 60-80 mph more than a 14 year old.
  • dan250ydsdan250yds Mayor9312 Members Posts: 514 ✭✭


    Hi I'm 9 years old, 87 pounds, and play to a +4.7 handicap and I hit them ball 360 average. How about you guys?




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  • dan250ydsdan250yds Mayor9312 Members Posts: 514 ✭✭
    isaacbm wrote:


    Tony Ireland



    What do you think are the weight requirements to hit the ball a long distance? Jamie Sadlowski weighs about 160 and carries it 400...



    15 year old here in Calgary swings at 112 miles per hour. He just shot 69,68 to win a tournament in Alberta this past weekend. He's 5'8" and not 130 lbs in a soaking wet wool sweater. I was watching him on flight scope and his worst swing was still 108 mph. His ball speed was over 160 every single time.



    I know some juniors stretch the truth. I would not dispute that claim. I'm just saying that there's more to speed than body mass.




    Believe that. Im 17 and not big in size. Im as tall as Mike Cammalleri. I weigh about 140-145. I fly it 280. Size doesnt matter. Its flexibility with this game. The best junior golfer in Michigan is not the biggest kid in the world and he straight up rips it. All that matters is if ya can shoot the score. Distance just is a big help thats about it. Go Flames Go
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  • 2 handicap

    260 carry 280ish total

    5'8 120

    13 yrs old






    Sorry but i have a hard time believing that, 13 yr old 120lbs hitting it 280, gimme a break




    On a legit trackman With my coach my swingspeed was

    108. Carry was what I originally stated rolled out to about the same. I lift 6 days a week for football and or baseball. I generate a lot of speed.
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  • isaacbmisaacbm Posts: 3,272 ✭✭
    edited May 9, 2012 #72
    Mikey K wrote:

    isaacbm wrote:


    Tony Ireland



    What do you think are the weight requirements to hit the ball a long distance? Jamie Sadlowski weighs about 160 and carries it 400...



    15 year old here in Calgary swings at 112 miles per hour. He just shot 69,68 to win a tournament in Alberta this past weekend. He's 5'8" and not 130 lbs in a soaking wet wool sweater. I was watching him on flight scope and his worst swing was still 108 mph. His ball speed was over 160 every single time.



    I know some juniors stretch the truth. I would not dispute that claim. I'm just saying that there's more to speed than body mass.




    He hits his COMPETITION driver with a 400 yard carry. He hits his regular driver with a 350 carry. Just to give you a perspective on how big of a swing he has his ball speed is 218 mph. Probably about 60-80 mph more than a 14 year old.


    Actually let me give you some perspective. I grew up 30 mins from Jamie . I played with him when he was 14,15,and 16. At 14 he was about 125 pounds and was carrying it over 300 with a regulation driver and ball speeds over 180. He was hitting 5 iron 250. By 16 he was weighing about 140 max and won the world junior long drive. I played in two scrambles in his group so I've seen it pretty close up. In the Bonnyville/St.Paul area of Alberta, hockey is pretty big. There are at least 25 guys in the moose lake cash scramble each year with swing speeds over 125 and most of them are 16-20 year olds that weigh under 170. Leverage and core speed is where it comes from. If u haven't seen it with your own eyes then fine but why call someone out? All it does is make you look bad...
  • thatboygaulethatboygaule IG- RichardGaule Jr. Boomers Posts: 1,637
    edited Dec 27, 2012 #73
    14

    10 handicap

    230 carry 245 total
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  • acgolferacgolfer Members Posts: 206 ✭✭
    16, junior in highschool



    6,2 155. swing speed around 117. carry around 285, 300 with roll. i play off a 4, but its getting lower. hoping to get to scratch over summer.



    i also play baseball so my swing is very long, but ive played enough to learn to control it. never had a lesson and dont plan on it. i will put a video up eventually.
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  • 15 years old and 5th year playing. Currently a 2.3 but still early in the year hoping to get to +something by the end of the year. I hit pretty long irons (8 iron 165) but don't hit drives that long (255 carry, 270 total).
  • bulls9999bulls9999 Posts: 665 ✭✭
    edited May 25, 2012 #77
    Sounds like an official 'driving distance' service would be invaluable. I wonder if Golf Galaxy could set that up for say, $5.00/shot....give it your best shot, or pay more more, lol (and let it give the average distance and standard deviation), you get your name/Golfwrx ID/driving distance posted on an internet web site, then you can refer to your official driving distance (of course it would be on an indoor swing monitor, and that lends itself to more issues).
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  • wakeusamwakeusam Jr. Boomers Posts: 44
    edited May 29, 2012 #78
    dplevin wrote:

    wakeusam wrote:



    Oh I wasn't talking about the kids ages 15+.. I mean the kids 14 and under don't hit it 280usually.. But there was a kid from my state who hit it 300 by age 12... The kids at the us junior weren't that long off the tee, with the exception of Spieth and a few others.






    Just cause you cant hit it 280-300 doesn't mean noone can by that age

    I hit my first 300 yard drive when i was 11




    LOL, Wakeusam is a classic GolfWRXer in the making, a 300yd drive a age 11 image/cheesy.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':cheesy:' />. I believe he forgot to mention that it was waaaaay downhill down wind and no one but his mom or dad was there to confirm it.




    It wasn't.

    ...

    WOW...

    Are you serious?

    I hit it perfect.

    It was straight into the wind. However, the fairways there are like concrete, I'll be honest. I'm 13 now and I easy hit it consistently 270-290. Not everyone is lying.rolleyes.gif
  • wakeusamwakeusam Jr. Boomers Posts: 44
    acgolfer wrote:


    16, junior in highschool



    6,2 155. swing speed around 117. carry around 285, 300 with roll. i play off a 4, but its getting lower. hoping to get to scratch over summer.



    i also play baseball so my swing is very long, but ive played enough to learn to control it. never had a lesson and dont plan on it. i will put a video up eventually.




    Bubba Watson swings 115-120. 117 would make it go alot further than 300.
  • dplevindplevin Members Posts: 681
    This thread is becoming pathetic and making juniors as a whole look bad.



    How about this: not everyone will believe everything. Maybe some people are telling the truth, maybe some are lying, but there is no real way to tell. I don't think anyone is going to die if someones says they are 10, 20 or 50 yards longer than they actually are. Let's just calm down and stop attacking each other.



    BTW, a lot of you guys are light. Who knows, maybe us Minnesota boys are fat image/dntknw.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':dntknw:' /> .
  • W2_GolferW2_Golfer Jr. Boomers Posts: 569
    dplevin wrote:


    This thread is becoming pathetic and making juniors as a whole look bad.



    How about this: not everyone will believe everything. Maybe some people are telling the truth, maybe some are lying, but there is no real way to tell. I don't think anyone is going to die if someones says they are 10, 20 or 50 yards longer than they actually are. Let's just calm down and stop attacking each other.



    BTW, a lot of you guys are light. Who knows, maybe us Minnesota boys are fat image/dntknw.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':dntknw:' /> .


    +1

    BTW that would be good for hibernation in those cold winters
  • dplevindplevin Members Posts: 681

    dplevin wrote:


    This thread is becoming pathetic and making juniors as a whole look bad.



    How about this: not everyone will believe everything. Maybe some people are telling the truth, maybe some are lying, but there is no real way to tell. I don't think anyone is going to die if someones says they are 10, 20 or 50 yards longer than they actually are. Let's just calm down and stop attacking each other.



    BTW, a lot of you guys are light. Who knows, maybe us Minnesota boys are fat image/dntknw.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':dntknw:' /> .


    +1

    BTW that would be good for hibernation in those cold winters




    Never thought of it that way, but I guess it works
  • wakeusamwakeusam Jr. Boomers Posts: 44
    dplevin wrote:


    dplevin wrote:


    ProJuniorGolfer, you seem to be new to GolfWRX, but let me help you understand a bit about this site. Lots of people lie about their distances. Some have never hit that far, but want to be cool, others have hit one off the cart path downhill, downwind and swinging out of their shoes that have gone 290 and then proceed to say they hit 300 yd drives. It's sad, but it's chronic on here and only gets worse when juniors carry on the torch.




    There are many things that are changing at around that time that makes things "unfair". I'm not saying this guy for sure hit it 300 yards at 11, but I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it either. Maybe the dude hit puberty at an extremely young age. I knew a dude that had a full on man beard in 8th, maybe even 7th grade. Many men twice the age of a 7th/8th grader can't grow much more than peach fuzz. Does that mean that 12 year old kid can't grow a full beard? No. I wouldn't have believed that if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes. Maybe he was taller and stronger than the average 11 year old. Maybe all the planets aligned and he put a good swing on the ball and happened to catch it dead on the sweet spot. It's highly unlikely, but entirely possible that an 11 year old hit one 300 yards. Just because a certain 12 year old can only hit the ball 250 (which is pretty dang far, especially for a 12 year old), no matter how good they are, doesn't mean someone a little younger can't hit it much further.




    It seems highly unlikely, not impossible. I think under normal conditions there is no way, it requires high swing speeds and good amounts of mass behind the ball. Most people that grow that quickly at a young age have trouble with their coordination, and I know some big, strong, athletic 17 year old good golfers that are lucky to hit it 275. There is a junior or senior in our high school conference that hits about 300 yards, he is 17, and legendary because of it. The ay wakeusam puts it makes it seem like this is not an abnormal occurrence. There is just a lot that doesn't add up.



    On a side note, I know what you mean about the man-children. In a peewee hockey tournament (7th and 8th grade), I played against a guy that was 6'3" and had a full chinstrap beard. I was scared (explicative)less so I just stayed away from him the entire game. I was 5'6" or 5'7" and weighed a whopping 110 or 115.black%20eye.gif




    Seriously! I have said im not trying to say that i average 300

    even now at 13 i only average 270-280

    I definitely have the strength i have a 102 mph ss w/ my driver and when i catch it really well straight downwind yeah i can get it out there 300
  • kg92leftykg92lefty Members Posts: 2,309
    wakeusam wrote:


    Seriously! I have said im not trying to say that i average 300

    even now at 13 i only average 270-280

    I definitely have the strength i have a 102 mph ss w/ my driver and when i catch it really well straight downwind yeah i can get it out there 300




    102 ss averaging 270-280? You either play at high altititude or on hard pan.
  • GoldenhawkGoldenhawk Members Posts: 3,241
    I believe that these junior players can really generate a lot of distance with the driver. If they are properly fitted and play a lot, drives over 280 are possible for 15/16 year olds.



    My son is 11, is 5'2" tall, weighs 100 lbs and can routinely drive over 200 yards. I can't wait to see what he can do in 5 to 6 years.
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  • ajga98ajga98 Members Posts: 25
    I am a 2 handicap and shot 72 this past week in a tourney. Btw I turned 14 a couple months ago. I will be happy to upload a swing if no one believes me
  • ajga98ajga98 Members Posts: 25
    I am a 2 handicap and shot 72 this past week in a tourney. Btw I turned 14 a couple months ago. I will be happy to upload a swing if no one believes me
  • big jbig j Big J Members Posts: 19
    well I'm 16

    unofficial handicap of about 10 more or less

    average drive is between 285-300+ consistently

    by the way, I'm 6'4" 210 lbs so its a bit of an advantage



    just my two cents, most kids in high school consistently drive it 260 or so. it isn't unbelievable like some think but actually quite average
  • Xpicc19Xpicc19 Members Posts: 559
    14 years old

    8 handicap

    270 carry
  • evanleeballevanleeball Members Posts: 485 ✭✭
    Xpicc19 wrote:


    14 years old

    8 handicap

    270 carry




    270 huh? Impressive.
  • KILLEDBYASHANKEDWEDGEKILLEDBYASHANKEDWEDGE 300 YARD DRAWS AND 10 LB HOOKS! Members Posts: 4,524
    Standing on #2 tee , a dogleg left, fairway runs out at 290. Player in the group ahead is playing his second about 280 out. My son is waiting for his fellow competitor, a 14y/o, to play, they both parred the 1st and the f/c had honors. The 14 y/o says he better wait because he hit it 280 once, LOL! About 10 minutes later he pull hooks it about 160.
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