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Hi,

 

I recently went for a fitting. My driver swing speed is around 95 mph. The recommendations I received were the Kaili White 60S and the Tour AD IZ 6S. I feel that these two shafts offer very different feelings, with the Kaili White being much stiffer, but somehow the results are good and similar. The IZ feels more natural, and given my swing speed, it seems I need this kind of high-trajectory shaft.

 

I also tried the Ventus Red and Blue but I really didn't like them. It's kind of hard to describe but it just felt uncomfortable, and the data wasn't good either.

 

I'm wondering if anyone has any recommendations for other drivers, 3-woods, and 7-woods shafts I should try? I'm currently considering the following setup:

 

Driver: Tour AD IZ 6S
3W & 7W: Tour AD IZ 7S

 

 

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AI Smoke Max 16.5* w/ Red TR Velore 6S

AI Smoke Max 21* w/ Velocore+ 7S | Apex UW 19* w/ Velore+ 7S when too windy

Ping G430 22 & 26 deg, Venus Blue HB 7S
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Are you looking for wood suggestions or shaft suggestions?

WITB - 4/2/24

Driver: TSR3 - 9* HZRDUS Black G4 6.5

4W: TSR3 16.5* - HZRDUS Black G4 6.5

7W: TSR2 21* - Ventus Blue 7X

Srixon ZX-4 4-5 $-Taper 130X - SSX1

Srixon ZX-7 6-PW $-taper 130X

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Testing: Odyssey AI One Rossie S

 

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14 minutes ago, byoshio82 said:

Are you looking for wood suggestions or shaft suggestions?

HI, just shafts. I'm using Qi10 Max

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AI Smoke Max 16.5* w/ Red TR Velore 6S

AI Smoke Max 21* w/ Velocore+ 7S | Apex UW 19* w/ Velore+ 7S when too windy

Ping G430 22 & 26 deg, Venus Blue HB 7S
MP 245 6-GW, Recoil 95S
Mizuno T24 54.10S 58.10V, DG S400

SC Phantom T-12 Tour Prototype

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Ah ok I was confused after reading the original post. 
 

If you like the IZ you could try AD DI also. I played the DI in the past (not in orange - GO DUCKS).

 

However for me the Ventus Red and Blue just can’t be beat in terms of ball speed and dispersion. 
 

Out of curiosity did you try any of the Ventus line in a regular flex? 
 

 

WITB - 4/2/24

Driver: TSR3 - 9* HZRDUS Black G4 6.5

4W: TSR3 16.5* - HZRDUS Black G4 6.5

7W: TSR2 21* - Ventus Blue 7X

Srixon ZX-4 4-5 $-Taper 130X - SSX1

Srixon ZX-7 6-PW $-taper 130X

Ping S159 - 50S/54H/58H - DG X100TI
TaylorMade TP Collection Juno
Testing: Odyssey AI One Rossie S

 

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23 minutes ago, byoshio82 said:

Ah ok I was confused after reading the original post. 
 

If you like the IZ you could try AD DI also. I played the DI in the past (not in orange - GO DUCKS).

 

However for me the Ventus Red and Blue just can’t be beat in terms of ball speed and dispersion. 
 

Out of curiosity did you try any of the Ventus line in a regular flex? 
 

 

Thanks a lot! 

 

My driver has a lower trajectory, so I think the IZ might be a suitable option, at least over Kaili White.

 

But not so sure about the 3W and 7W. Especially for the 7W, I might need a shaft with an even lower launch. So yes I should try out the DI, especially for fairway woods.

 

I tried the Ventus Blue and Red TR 6S. It felt very odd, so I didn't give the brand another chance during the fitting. Maybe I should try their Regular.

 

AI Smoke Max 10.5* w/ Blue Velocore+ 5R

AI Smoke Max 16.5* w/ Red TR Velore 6S

AI Smoke Max 21* w/ Velocore+ 7S | Apex UW 19* w/ Velore+ 7S when too windy

Ping G430 22 & 26 deg, Venus Blue HB 7S
MP 245 6-GW, Recoil 95S
Mizuno T24 54.10S 58.10V, DG S400

SC Phantom T-12 Tour Prototype

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1 hour ago, robin_w said:

Thanks a lot! 

 

My driver has a lower trajectory, so I think the IZ might be a suitable option, at least over Kaili White.

 

But not so sure about the 3W and 7W. Especially for the 7W, I might need a shaft with an even lower launch. So yes I should try out the DI, especially for fairway woods.

 

I tried the Ventus Blue and Red TR 6S. It felt very odd, so I didn't give the brand another chance during the fitting. Maybe I should try their Regular.

 

Based off my experience with Ventus since it came out it’s very smooth and stable. Red launches mid/high for me and hits my soon windows. Might be worth a shot and maybe even try the 50 gram weight in the driver in S & R and then 60 in S/R for your woods. I wouldn’t try the TR as they are the lower launching versions. 

WITB - 4/2/24

Driver: TSR3 - 9* HZRDUS Black G4 6.5

4W: TSR3 16.5* - HZRDUS Black G4 6.5

7W: TSR2 21* - Ventus Blue 7X

Srixon ZX-4 4-5 $-Taper 130X - SSX1

Srixon ZX-7 6-PW $-taper 130X

Ping S159 - 50S/54H/58H - DG X100TI
TaylorMade TP Collection Juno
Testing: Odyssey AI One Rossie S

 

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14 hours ago, robin_w said:

Hi,

 

I recently went for a fitting. My driver swing speed is around 95 mph. The recommendations I received were the Kaili White 60S and the Tour AD IZ 6S. I feel that these two shafts offer very different feelings, with the Kaili White being much stiffer, but somehow the results are good and similar. The IZ feels more natural, and given my swing speed, it seems I need this kind of high-trajectory shaft.

 

I also tried the Ventus Red and Blue but I really didn't like them. It's kind of hard to describe but it just felt uncomfortable, and the data wasn't good either.

 

I'm wondering if anyone has any recommendations for other drivers, 3-woods, and 7-woods shafts I should try? I'm currently considering the following setup:

 

Driver: Tour AD IZ 6S
3W & 7W: Tour AD IZ 7S

 

 

I would try for a 80g series in your 7w from a weight progression standpoint. 
 

I go Ventus black in driver. Tensei blue in 4w (HL 3) and mmt 80 in my apex uw (my 7w) and I have a good weight progression through out. YMMV

Driver: Callaway Epic Max LS with Ventus Black 6x 44.5"

4w: '22 Rogue ST LS 16.5  Tensei AV Blue 75x

7w: '22 Callaway Apex UW 21 80s MMT

DI: Caley 01X 18* with KBS PGH 95

4-AW: PXG OG 0211  with KBS Tour Stiff 2.5* up 3/4" long MOI matched

Wedges: Cleveland Zipcore 54 Full/58 Mid 

Putter: DF2.1 35"69* in blue

Ball: Srixon Z-star XV

 

 

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On 2/27/2024 at 1:35 PM, byoshio82 said:

Based off my experience with Ventus since it came out it’s very smooth and stable. Red launches mid/high for me and hits my soon windows. Might be worth a shot and maybe even try the 50 gram weight in the driver in S & R and then 60 in S/R for your woods. I wouldn’t try the TR as they are the lower launching versions. 

Thanks again!

 

I tried Ventus Blue 5R, feeling much better!

 

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AI Smoke Max 16.5* w/ Red TR Velore 6S

AI Smoke Max 21* w/ Velocore+ 7S | Apex UW 19* w/ Velore+ 7S when too windy

Ping G430 22 & 26 deg, Venus Blue HB 7S
MP 245 6-GW, Recoil 95S
Mizuno T24 54.10S 58.10V, DG S400

SC Phantom T-12 Tour Prototype

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On 2/27/2024 at 2:18 PM, Rbsiedsc said:

I would try for a 80g series in your 7w from a weight progression standpoint. 
 

I go Ventus black in driver. Tensei blue in 4w (HL 3) and mmt 80 in my apex uw (my 7w) and I have a good weight progression through out. YMMV

Thank you! Will try that as well.

 

Do you like Apex UW? I'm debating Apex UW vs Paradym Super Hybrid now.

 

 

AI Smoke Max 10.5* w/ Blue Velocore+ 5R

AI Smoke Max 16.5* w/ Red TR Velore 6S

AI Smoke Max 21* w/ Velocore+ 7S | Apex UW 19* w/ Velore+ 7S when too windy

Ping G430 22 & 26 deg, Venus Blue HB 7S
MP 245 6-GW, Recoil 95S
Mizuno T24 54.10S 58.10V, DG S400

SC Phantom T-12 Tour Prototype

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On 3/2/2024 at 8:56 PM, robin_w said:

Thank you! Will try that as well.

 

Do you like Apex UW? I'm debating Apex UW vs Paradym Super Hybrid now.

 

 

I love the apex. Had the OG super but 17 deg and was so hit and miss. In that slot used to have a sub70 18° hybrid but wasn’t my favorite. 

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Driver: Callaway Epic Max LS with Ventus Black 6x 44.5"

4w: '22 Rogue ST LS 16.5  Tensei AV Blue 75x

7w: '22 Callaway Apex UW 21 80s MMT

DI: Caley 01X 18* with KBS PGH 95

4-AW: PXG OG 0211  with KBS Tour Stiff 2.5* up 3/4" long MOI matched

Wedges: Cleveland Zipcore 54 Full/58 Mid 

Putter: DF2.1 35"69* in blue

Ball: Srixon Z-star XV

 

 

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On 3/3/2024 at 8:31 AM, Rbsiedsc said:

I love the apex. Had the OG super but 7 deg and was so hit and miss. In that slot used to have a sub70 18° hybrid but wasn’t my favorite. 

Thanks! Got a 19* apex UW, will see how it goes

AI Smoke Max 10.5* w/ Blue Velocore+ 5R

AI Smoke Max 16.5* w/ Red TR Velore 6S

AI Smoke Max 21* w/ Velocore+ 7S | Apex UW 19* w/ Velore+ 7S when too windy

Ping G430 22 & 26 deg, Venus Blue HB 7S
MP 245 6-GW, Recoil 95S
Mizuno T24 54.10S 58.10V, DG S400

SC Phantom T-12 Tour Prototype

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Lower ball hitter.

 

IZ 6S in driver OG Sim Max.

 

Kai’li red S (70 g series) 7wd Stealth 2.

 

I had the IZ first and was going thru same process you are. They match up well for feel/timing and performance.

 

 

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On 3/7/2024 at 11:05 AM, grinder1320 said:

Lower ball hitter.

 

IZ 6S in driver OG Sim Max.

 

Kai’li red S (70 g series) 7wd Stealth 2.

 

I had the IZ first and was going thru same process you are. They match up well for feel/timing and performance.

 

 

Thanks for the info!

AI Smoke Max 10.5* w/ Blue Velocore+ 5R

AI Smoke Max 16.5* w/ Red TR Velore 6S

AI Smoke Max 21* w/ Velocore+ 7S | Apex UW 19* w/ Velore+ 7S when too windy

Ping G430 22 & 26 deg, Venus Blue HB 7S
MP 245 6-GW, Recoil 95S
Mizuno T24 54.10S 58.10V, DG S400

SC Phantom T-12 Tour Prototype

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I end up with:

 

AI Smoke Max 10.5 deg w/ Blue Velocore+ 5R, 16.5 deg w/ Tour AD DI 6S21 deg w/ Velocore+ 6S

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AI Smoke Max 16.5* w/ Red TR Velore 6S

AI Smoke Max 21* w/ Velocore+ 7S | Apex UW 19* w/ Velore+ 7S when too windy

Ping G430 22 & 26 deg, Venus Blue HB 7S
MP 245 6-GW, Recoil 95S
Mizuno T24 54.10S 58.10V, DG S400

SC Phantom T-12 Tour Prototype

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