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Rich High-handicappers with only tour level equipment
So today at the range there were these two guys.
One had a TaylorMade Staff bag with R7 TPs w/ project X shafts. Everything thing in the bag was 2008 Taylormade line.
The other guy had the same setup but everything was NIKE. Big yellow staff bag, big yellow headcovers. $400 shafts on every wood.
Did i mention they were both terrible.

So the TM guy pulls out his $500 Bushnell rangefinder, finds the distance of probably the farthest pin out there. And shanks 3 shots in a row. He was terrible.

I see this way too often. Tell me some stories about stupid egos making 30 handicappers buy project X 7.0s or whatever just to impress his everyone else.
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Is it just possible that these 2 guys are beginners who could afford nice equipment the first time out so they could grow with the same equipment as they get better instead of upgrading ?

 

I would understand better if they were bragging about their equipments, but sounds like they just mind their own business and learning the game.

 

Isn't there anyone here who weren't "terrible" when they just started ?

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Is it just possible that these 2 guys are beginners who could afford nice equipment the first time out so they could grow with the same equipment as they get better instead of upgrading ?

 

I would understand better if they were bragging about their equipments, but sounds like they just mind their own business and learning the game.

 

Isn't there anyone here who weren't "terrible" when they just started ?

 

 

You know what you are right..we all sucked when we started...and just because you have the money to buy nice clubs it doesn't mean we should clown...even though the guy in the story was lasering down the farthest pin without even a chance to hit it. Point taken....anywhooo, I was hitting balls today with my buddy who just qualified for the junior am a couple days ago, and we were going over the pro's and con's of him switching to mp 67 blades from his mp60's... while we were talking and hitting balls this guy walks up with a brand new set of 67's...no bag,no woods,hybrids...just a set of 67's.I looked at my buddy and said he should ask this guy if he could try his out...he couldn't do it... If he would have seen my bud hit his clubs compared to how he was hitin them he may quit the game...This dude had no business with those sticks. Whoever sold them to him should be ashamed

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we had the new york jets football team come to our range to do a clinic type deal with some pga pros. one guy that wasnt a player but was an assistant or something thought he was hot stuff. he was decked out head to toe in j lindeberg, had mp32s, and to top it off a burner tp with an ozik tp7. the best thing being he couldnt hit a ball for his life.

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I've occasionally seen the sort of absurdity you guys are describing, although I must say at my club the hackers tend to have stereotyped hacker clubs rather than shiny new Tour type stuff. But why is a guy shooting a million with a bag full of Tour implements any different from a guy showing up at an NFL game (or a sports bar on Sunday afternoon) wearing a Tom Brady genuine NFL approved jersey? Golfers don't wear jerseys so the Walter Mitty types have to sublimate their fantasies into forged blade clubs and "X" flex shafts in their "Tour" drivers.

 

I find it much more laughable-but-annoying when a guy who doesn't hit it any better than me announces that he's a 5-handicap and insists on playing the way-back tees. I'd rather get paired up with a guy using Tour clubs but playing to his real handicap than a guy with a bag full of oversize Pings who's pretending to be a stick while taking mulligans ands still double bogeying every other hole (and spending five hours doing it).

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Just IMO, but shouldn't you worry a little more about you and a little less about how someone else decides to spend their own money?

 

If it affects you - as in the 25 HCP who insists on playing the back tees - that is different, but one man should never tell another man how to spend his money.

 

Just my opinion.

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I think that if they are having fun, who cares what they play - although staff bags seem to be a good general indicator that they are clueless ;-).

 

I don't see the point in getting frustrated that they have amazing equipment and can't play. Maybe they know they can't play but they love the club ho side of things. Maybe they are beginners. I would only get wound up if someone starts bragging about their gear being better than yours. I'd ask them what their sticks scored last time out (not them but their gear) and then ask if they fancy a little hitting competition - first to the most distant green type thing.

 

Everybody has some level of delusion to their golfing ability. We all have that little voice that says 'with a little more practise, some better gear and a bit of luck I could play on Tour'. Maybe some listen to the better gear bit more than the practise more bit.

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These posts always irritate me. First of all, of you want to blow your own money, go ahead. It's your money and choice. There is a "bling" factor to hot new, tour issue equipment, regardless of fit to a game. A lime green Ozik TP 7 is the golf version of a Rolex Submariner- expensive and conspicuous (and arguably not that mich better than some others in the market despite the cache).

 

But, dont hate the player, hate the game. If a guy has money and wants to spend it on equipment he has no business playing, dont be a hater- there is some jealously in there.

 

The point on ability is well taken- I have more of an issue with vanity handicappers than equipment hos. Dont tell me that you just shot 72 yesterday and cant understand why you are missing every single 3 footer...

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I go to the range quite frequently. Honestly, I couldn't tell you what anybody there had in there bag or how they hit their shots. Honestly, I could care less.

 

I don't understand how or why anyone would ever notice?

 

Exactly my thoughts. If you're at the range to better your game, why are you spending your time checking out other people's bags who you don't even know?

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Interesting topic.

 

I believe we have all seen these people on the range and on the course before. And yes it is irritating to a certain degree but who really cares. People are morons-plain and simple (including myself). Our current culture is all about ego, looks, and status. I do however, get really annoyed when I see a 30+ handicapper with a tour staff bag and the clubs to go with it (usually TM or Callaway) chili-dippin' balls while talking on his cell phone via bluetooth and after he gets off the phone you ask him what kind of business he's in and he pauses for a second to pull out his sterling silver business card holder with his initials engraved on it and hands you one. As the late, great and beloved George Carlin once said, "This is another a-hole that deserves to be strapped down in a chair and beaten repeatedly over the head with a piece of heavy mining equipment."

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when I was a kid we used to call these guys yo yo's, all that nice equipment the clothes and shoes matching glove

 

what was funny is that so many of them thought they could play.

 

Naturally us kids with our hand me down clubs in our little canvas carry bags tee shirts and shorts would offer to play for a few bucks.

 

These guys thought they were hustling us and the best part was when you beat them they came back again and again.

 

good times

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Is it just possible that these 2 guys are beginners who could afford nice equipment the first time out so they could grow with the same equipment as they get better instead of upgrading ?

 

I would understand better if they were bragging about their equipments, but sounds like they just mind their own business and learning the game.

 

Isn't there anyone here who weren't "terrible" when they just started ?

 

 

Hell no. Don't you know everyone on WRX was born at least a sub 10 handicap

 

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I'm always a bit amused by these threads. Some posters seem to think they've tapped into their inner genius and that they have some new & profound insight to share with us.

 

Well, Thorstein Veblen beat you to the punch. The Theory of the Leisure Class was published in 1899. It was in this book that the term "conspicuous consumption" was introduced.

 

As a wise man said long ago: "There is nothing new under the sun."

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I see stuff like this all the time. Guys with blades or TP drivers, and absolutely no game. I have learned to just ignore it. It use to shock me to see such terrible golfers playing equipment that hurt their game, but now I am completely used to seeing it. Some people just want to look good, no matter how they play.

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I find it amusing when people pay all that money and cannot play but that is the extent of it. I do not care about it. I just find it amusing. I am no expert and never claim to be. However, my index is low enough that I can hold my own against the average golfer.

 

I am not trying to be nor claim to be a pro. Yes, I play the back tees (well, whatever is around 6800-6900 yards and on some courses, thost are not the back tees). I only play the back tees because with today's technology, I hit the ball long enough off the te that it allows me to hit more than 9 iron and wedges into greens.

 

I played Ping Karsten I irons for 18 years from when I started by caddying at a local CC in Vancouver Canada and bought them used from a member, then I upgraded in 2000 to the Ping i3 Blades. Sure, I love new clubs as much as the next guy but at times wehn I am playing a lot to times when I barely play, these allow me to enjoy the game, even if not flashy.

 

Now my woods....THAT is where I am a bit ho-ish recently but my driver is one that never is flashy because 99% of golfers have either never heard of it or never seen it. I let my drives do the talking in that case and yes, my drives will often talk to trees but hey, part fo the fun is hitting out of trouble spots!

 

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I my self may be one of "those guys" I sport a set of MP60's which I bought three years ago when I was around a 16 hdcp, I have project x 5.5 shafts, and a like new mizuno staff stand bag I treat them with the utmost care. I have a new Touredge exotics , xld driver and cb2 fairway woods. I usually look like I should be a better golfer than what my hdcp reflects. I could CARE LESS if any one thinks I'm a poser. I LOVE THE GAME and I will continue to treat myself to the nicest stuff that I can afford.

Sorry about the rant guys...

 

Fish...Eric

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So today at the range there were these two guys.

One had a TaylorMade Staff bag with R7 TPs w/ project X shafts. Everything thing in the bag was 2008 Taylormade line.

The other guy had the same setup but everything was NIKE. Big yellow staff bag, big yellow headcovers. $400 shafts on every wood.

Did i mention they were both terrible.

 

So the TM guy pulls out his $500 Bushnell rangefinder, finds the distance of probably the farthest pin out there. And shanks 3 shots in a row. He was terrible.

 

I see this way too often. Tell me some stories about stupid egos making 30 handicappers buy project X 7.0s or whatever just to impress his everyone else.

 

seeing this kind of stuff doesn't bother me, its acctually kind of amusing

 

i think the only type i hate, are the ones who preach the newest/expensive stuff, & how its so much better than everything else

i.e.

guy a - wow nice drive

guy b - i know

guy a - you hit it pretty far

guy b - its because its a tp, i dont hit the regular one as far

guy a - wow, now i need one

 

 

one reason i dont play Taylor made, im sorry, it seems like only TM guys preach tp stuff like its something god like

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So today at the range there were these two guys.

One had a TaylorMade Staff bag with R7 TPs w/ project X shafts. Everything thing in the bag was 2008 Taylormade line.

The other guy had the same setup but everything was NIKE. Big yellow staff bag, big yellow headcovers. $400 shafts on every wood.

Did i mention they were both terrible.

 

So the TM guy pulls out his $500 Bushnell rangefinder, finds the distance of probably the farthest pin out there. And shanks 3 shots in a row. He was terrible.

 

I see this way too often. Tell me some stories about stupid egos making 30 handicappers buy project X 7.0s or whatever just to impress his everyone else.

 

I don't understand why it bothers you or why you should care?

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A big +1 from me!

 

I could CARE LESS if any one thinks I'm a poser. I LOVE THE GAME and I will continue to treat myself to the nicest stuff that I can afford.

Sorry about the rant guys...

 

Fish...Eric

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I thouroughly enjoy mocking and laughing at others while golfing with friends. That's half the fun of playing. Actually, half the fun of life is making light of others... and of course, making fun of oneself.

 

People who take themselves too seriously deserve to me mocked because those guys are the ones who cheat at local charity four-man scrambles.

 

That being said, it's just a game. Albeit, the greatest game EVER!

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So today at the range there were these two guys.

One had a TaylorMade Staff bag with R7 TPs w/ project X shafts. Everything thing in the bag was 2008 Taylormade line.

The other guy had the same setup but everything was NIKE. Big yellow staff bag, big yellow headcovers. $400 shafts on every wood.

Did i mention they were both terrible.

 

So the TM guy pulls out his $500 Bushnell rangefinder, finds the distance of probably the farthest pin out there. And shanks 3 shots in a row. He was terrible.

 

I see this way too often. Tell me some stories about stupid egos making 30 handicappers buy project X 7.0s or whatever just to impress his everyone else.

 

 

 

Ha ha,

 

funniest thread on the site. But trust me, I am laughing at you ball shagging, lawn mowing, club caddy, range rats, not with you. What a bunch of bitter, little ankle biters.

 

Your like the creepy, insecure guy at the public urinal with the wandering eye trying to see how his hang down compares.

 

You want really upset yourselves, follow these guys to the parking lot and watch them load those sweet clubs in the back of a Benz or BMW and drive them home to their gated community.

 

Just understand, likely reason they have the cool junk and the bad swing is they have spent most of their time building businesses.

 

And hey isn't time for you oye's to go cut the back nine?

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So today at the range there were these two guys.

One had a TaylorMade Staff bag with R7 TPs w/ project X shafts. Everything thing in the bag was 2008 Taylormade line.

The other guy had the same setup but everything was NIKE. Big yellow staff bag, big yellow headcovers. $400 shafts on every wood.

Did i mention they were both terrible.

 

So the TM guy pulls out his $500 Bushnell rangefinder, finds the distance of probably the farthest pin out there. And shanks 3 shots in a row. He was terrible.

 

I see this way too often. Tell me some stories about stupid egos making 30 handicappers buy project X 7.0s or whatever just to impress his everyone else.

Was one of them really fat and the other skinny and boy pretty :) ? Wait, wrong website, but I know of one full of the guys you describe.

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So one question is whether you're still a poser if you use equipment "above your raising" until it's old and beat up. My irons are DCI 990's with DGS300 shafts that I've had since my handicap was near 30. They just look like an old beat-to-heck set of irons now and nobody on Tour plays them any more but I'm still a 16+ handicapper playing irons more suitable for a good player. Am I exempt because they look like they've been dragged behind a car on 20 miles of bad road?

 

FWIW, I once tried a set of Nike Slingshots for a year and they saved me maybe one stroke a round so I went back my old favorites because I like the way they chip and punch the ball. I love me some Driver High Tech but IMHO a hacker using Tour irons is probably not hurting anything but his pride. You don't generally put the ball in the hole by hitting better 6-iron shots after all...if you want to be a Pretender with anything you might as well make it a fancy-pants set of irons.

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As an everyday club-fitter at our store, I would never try to sell something to someone they should not be playing (ex: TP driver sold to 30 handicap). However, some people come in and say exactly what they want. You suggest getting fitted but they know what they want already. No big deal to me. Their loss.

 

 

What I personally dislike is when these people that have the highest of high-end equipment act like they know all these little details about their clubs and almost act like a salesman to you about them...not knowing that you're in the business. 30 handicaps with tour stuff doesn't bother me....know-it-alls do.

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