How true are your tournaments to stated yards?

Have a question how many of you are seeing stated yards on the tournament info page only to show up and see the tee's are way off? I seen this a few times were stated yards are 500-700 yards shorter on the other side I also seen a few where stated yards was quite a bit more.

So an example is where you see a par 3 it says 180 but on the day of the tournament they're only 150 yards and that isn't the only hole because they are playing from the red tee's instead of say white.

To me I view this as just poor tournament planning because listed yardage should be correct. A few yards here and there on a hole is not a big deal but when it basically moves the tee's way up it a huge issue. The better run tournaments seem to get this correct.

Well it depends on the organization putting on the tournament like you said. Also, sometimes they do yardages to the middle of the green and the pin may be front or way back. This can make a big difference sometimes. US Kids yardages are hit or miss, but I bet they have a volunteer kid putting out the markers. You move up to regionals/state/worlds etc and the yardages are much more accurate. When we play SCPGA tournaments, the yardages are much more accurate as well.

Not really a big deal IMO since everyone in the field has to play from the same/similar tees.

> @kekoa said:

> Well it depends on the organization putting on the tournament like you said. Also, sometimes they do yardages to the middle of the green and the pin may be front or way back. This can make a big difference sometimes. US Kids yardages are hit or miss, but I bet they have a volunteer kid putting out the markers. You move up to regionals/state/worlds etc and the yardages are much more accurate. When we play SCPGA tournaments, the yardages are much more accurate as well.

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> Not really a big deal IMO since everyone in the field has to play from the same/similar tees.

I am not talking about front or back of the greens but they are actually either playing tees that are further up or the tees are moved all the way up to make the course play shorter.

Everyone plays the same tees but if you end up with an setup too easy it’s not really a good tournament either.

Only saw this once in a one day event where they had the blue tees moved up to the whites on a couple of holes but that was because of tee renovation.

> @leezer99 said:

> Only saw this once in a one day event where they had the blue tees moved up to the whites on a couple of holes but that was because of tee renovation.

I think this is more of a girl issue then boys. Longer tee’s can mean long rounds.

Like @kekoa said. USKG locals are all over the place- state, regionals and worlds are accurate

> @hangontight said:

> Like @kekoa said. USKG locals are all over the place- state, regionals and worlds are accurate

With me I noticed this an issue with 9-12 age divisions of Florida state and some South Florida PGA events. When you end up with 4500 yards instead of the already short 5000-5200 it is a pretty short course. With HJGT and AGJA and the few IMG events the yardages are very close to what is stated. What is interesting the HGJT and IMG events have much higher scores (even with same kids playing) because of setup on the same courses. We also found playing the longer harder setups made the course play much different even from the same stated yards.

Everyone plays the same tee's and setup so this isn't a huge issue but at the same time but this plays into national rankings ( These tournaments though have very low st. or tournament so maybe that is the tip off). The big issue to me is I am guilty of thinking the lower the score the better the competition and tour. I was told this is not the case and some tours have much harder setups so scores are much higher.

> @tiger1873 said:

> > @hangontight said:

> > Like @kekoa said. USKG locals are all over the place- state, regionals and worlds are accurate

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> With me I noticed this an issue with 9-12 age divisions of Florida state and some South Florida PGA events. When you end up with 4500 yards instead of the already short 5000-5200 it is a pretty short course. With HJGT and AGJA and the few IMG events the yardages are very close to what is stated. What is interesting the HGJT and IMG events have much higher scores (even with same kids playing) because of setup on the same courses. We also found playing the longer harder setups made the course play much different even from the same stated yards.

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> Everyone plays the same tee's and setup so this isn't a huge issue but at the same time but this plays into national rankings ( These tournaments though have very low st. or tournament so maybe that is the tip off). The big issue to me is I am guilty of thinking the lower the score the better the competition and tour. I was told this is not the case and some tours have much harder setups so scores are much higher.

From what I understand (which is very little), for scores to count towards JGS they have to be played from USGA official markers. It's not as if JGS checks but if the tournament has stated they are playing blue, white or red tees then they are eligible scores.

> @leezer99 said:

> > @tiger1873 said:

> > > @hangontight said:

> > > Like @kekoa said. USKG locals are all over the place- state, regionals and worlds are accurate

> >

> > With me I noticed this an issue with 9-12 age divisions of Florida state and some South Florida PGA events. When you end up with 4500 yards instead of the already short 5000-5200 it is a pretty short course. With HJGT and AGJA and the few IMG events the yardages are very close to what is stated. What is interesting the HGJT and IMG events have much higher scores (even with same kids playing) because of setup on the same courses. We also found playing the longer harder setups made the course play much different even from the same stated yards.

> >

> > Everyone plays the same tee's and setup so this isn't a huge issue but at the same time but this plays into national rankings ( These tournaments though have very low st. or tournament so maybe that is the tip off). The big issue to me is I am guilty of thinking the lower the score the better the competition and tour. I was told this is not the case and some tours have much harder setups so scores are much higher.

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> From what I understand (which is very little), for scores to count towards JGS they have to be played from USGA official markers. It's not as if JGS checks but if the tournament has stated they are playing blue, white or red tees then they are eligible scores.

The stated yards are almost always USGA official markers. The big reason we notice them is during practice rounds we always ask the pro where what tee's there planing to play from and almost always they line up with the stated yards. The last few times we show up the next day and your playing a tee forward. So obvious they not playing from what you're supposed be playing from.

I am talking about tee's for girls under 12 but it wouldn't surprise me they make it easier for them to play. Many times they put the 9 and 10 year girls in the older groups because there not enough players and the yardage seems split from stated yards. That is when I noticed shrinking yardage and generally lower scores across the board.