Ping S57

[The Ultimate Spin]

First, Titleist comes out with AP's that are just inbred MacGregor Mactecs and Ping S58s. And now these Ping S57s look just like the S58s except with Rapture soles and toes slapped on the bottom. Just more evidence that barring the invention or application of some new metal, designers may have hit the wall in what new stuff they can create. Then you have have Taylormade that already hit the wall, bounced off, went over the rail and burst into flame with their new Tour Burner offerings.

 

 

HA!

[jebb]

Sandy,

 

We dream of those fuel prices.

 

Try £1.06 a litre for size in the UK.

 

Remember it can always be worse. lol

[Resili22]

rommel,

 

Looks great without the s57 logo.

 

Thanks Jebb.

We'll have to wait almost a year in Europe to see if, besides looks, they are a worthy successor of the S58 in terms of feel, forgiveness and playability...

 

Have a great game.

[jmbgolfer]

This might be a stupid question but if the clubs are created why aren't there any tour pros playing them? Even if they are being released in china the pros could still get ahold of them, right?

[bigstunnerdude]

I'm more interested in seeing the Raptures and how they've improved those. I hope they are going to re-design them to be aimed more at the Players rather then as Game Improvement Irons. I have the current Raptures and have always felt them to be too chunky and with far too much offset. Would much prefer it they brought out a set with a headsize and offset compareable with say the I5.

[ckguy914]

I'm more interested in seeing the Raptures and how they've improved those. I hope they are going to re-design them to be aimed more at the Players rather then as Game Improvement Irons. I have the current Raptures and have always felt them to be too chunky and with far too much offset. Would much prefer it they brought out a set with a headsize and offset compareable with say the I5.

 

I do find the S57 to be slighter bigger in size compared to S58, so you might want to look into those.

[TBone]

I see that Tourspecgolf have these listed now in their Proshop....some additional pictures for comparison also.

[Konklifer]

I think they look good. I'd prefer the orange be black, but they still look nice.

[dukesweb]

You are definitely right. I hit a few balls the other day with the cavity of my S58s and they have the perfect color and font. I believe what made the shots fly so well was the font size in particular. Really comes in handy when you have to extract a ball from a lousy lie with a backhanded shot. Now that you mention it, probably the orange graphics and font of the G10 driver were the main reason the shot was wayward and needed a backhand swipe.

 

Don't have an opinion or Sandy gets all pissy and clever. :cheesy: :)

 

And IMO...I think the DESIGN is great, but I just don't see much change from the s58. Now, that is not a bad thing, just that these look more like they took the Tour-W wedge and made a complete set. I have the Tour-W wedges and they are really nice, with the feel being very similar to the feel of the s58's. Again, very nice but not worth it to me to change.

[deldch01]

Just thought I'd throw these pics up here courtesy of tourspecgolf.com.

 

Chris

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[deldch01]

Go to the site to see pics in better quality.

 

http://www.tourspecgolf.com/proshop/p1745/...oduct_info.html

 

Chris

[eRod v1.0]

Hmm, they are growing on me.

[bigstunnerdude]

Been told today by my Ping Area Rep that these clubs have been designed soley for the Japanese Market, much like the J-Spec Raptures. He said they aren't being launched in the US and European Markets, or at least not with the same design as that for the Japanese Market. That would also explain why no tour pros have the clubs or are using them. Only Japanese Pros would probably be able to get them.

 

Son we may or may not be getting the S57s this year. If we do they will be designed and styled for the US & European markets. Don't know if thats a good thing or not.

[MatrixcMan]

Been told today by my Ping Area Rep that these clubs have been designed soley for the Japanese Market, much like the J-Spec Raptures. He said they aren't being launched in the US and European Markets, or at least not with the same design as that for the Japanese Market. That would also explain why no tour pros have the clubs or are using them. Only Japanese Pros would probably be able to get them.

 

Son we may or may not be getting the S57s this year. If we do they will be designed and styled for the US & European markets. Don't know if thats a good thing or not.

 

Ping will release an S57 in the US in September. Most likely a tweaked version of the Japanese S 57. Some pros are testing this club outside of the tour.

[18th Legion]

Chances are Ping will want some type of medallion in the center. I don't understand why they didn't utilize similar designs that are on their Irons and the bottom of their woods.

Something like this . . .

 

oh WOW those look hot without the orange medallion...if they put a black S57 in the cavity instead, man o man...

[ckguy914]

Chances are Ping will want some type of medallion in the center. I don't understand why they didn't utilize similar designs that are on their Irons and the bottom of their woods.

Something like this . . .

 

oh WOW those look hot without the orange medallion...if they put a black S57 in the cavity instead, man o man...

 

Ping is the only US golf equipment company that is both ISO certified for quality management and for environmental management.

 

The reason the newer iron designs now have plates (or medallion, or stickers) instead paint fill is so we can reduce the amount of toxic waste produced during the process.

[18th Legion]

Chances are Ping will want some type of medallion in the center. I don't understand why they didn't utilize similar designs that are on their Irons and the bottom of their woods.

Something like this . . .

 

oh WOW those look hot without the orange medallion...if they put a black S57 in the cavity instead, man o man...

 

Ping is the only US golf equipment company that is both ISO certified for quality management and for environmental management.

 

The reason the newer iron designs now have plates (or medallion, or stickers) instead paint fill is so we can reduce the amount of toxic waste produced during the process.

 

Yes, the similar design that I am referring to is the Medallions on the I10, G10 as well as the design on the woods.

The reasoning that you gave is well known, however, as these S 57 Irons will be made in China the above (ISO) will not necessarily apply.

[MatrixcMan]

Chances are Ping will want some type of medallion in the center. I don't understand why they didn't utilize similar designs that are on their Irons and the bottom of their woods.

Something like this . . .

 

oh WOW those look hot without the orange medallion...if they put a black S57 in the cavity instead, man o man...

 

Ping is the only US golf equipment company that is both ISO certified for quality management and for environmental management.

 

The reason the newer iron designs now have plates (or medallion, or stickers) instead paint fill is so we can reduce the amount of toxic waste produced during the process.

 

You use the phrase "we". Are you an employee of Ping? I thought you had stated you work for a temp agency in the club assembly room at Ping?

[ckguy914]

Chances are Ping will want some type of medallion in the center. I don't understand why they didn't utilize similar designs that are on their Irons and the bottom of their woods.

Something like this . . .

 

oh WOW those look hot without the orange medallion...if they put a black S57 in the cavity instead, man o man...

 

Ping is the only US golf equipment company that is both ISO certified for quality management and for environmental management.

 

The reason the newer iron designs now have plates (or medallion, or stickers) instead paint fill is so we can reduce the amount of toxic waste produced during the process.

 

You use the phrase "we". Are you an employee of Ping? I thought you had stated you work for a temp agency in the club assembly room at Ping?

 

Worked my butt off and got hired last December.

 

I learned about the using plates instead of paint fills designs to reduce toxic waste during a new employee ISO introduction meeting.

[MatrixcMan]

Chances are Ping will want some type of medallion in the center. I don't understand why they didn't utilize similar designs that are on their Irons and the bottom of their woods.

Something like this . . .

 

oh WOW those look hot without the orange medallion...if they put a black S57 in the cavity instead, man o man...

 

Ping is the only US golf equipment company that is both ISO certified for quality management and for environmental management.

 

The reason the newer iron designs now have plates (or medallion, or stickers) instead paint fill is so we can reduce the amount of toxic waste produced during the process.

 

You use the phrase "we". Are you an employee of Ping? I thought you had stated you work for a temp agency in the club assembly room at Ping?

 

Worked my butt off and got hired last December.

 

I learned about the using plates instead of paint fills designs to reduce toxic waste during a new employee ISO introduction meeting.

 

 

Congrats on your hire with Ping! Always nice to achieve your objectives in the job world. What area do you work in now?

[eerogolf]

I know I will be buying these as soon as they are coming out !!! To replace my S59 irons, am already saving the money for it :man_in_love:

[BRS216]

A guy in my office speaks Japanese. Let me see what I can do.

 

EDIT:

 

Okay, I didn't want to impose too much on my friend, so I just took notes when he told me what the web page said. So this is a "loose" translation:

 

Today I heard that my friend's shop will be selling the PING S57 irons in March. My friend with the shop is PING crazy and he gives me a lot of information. All of my PING irons and Redwood putters were fitted by this shop owner.

 

My friend said that the S57s will be sold in Japan in March, before they are sold in the U.S. domestic market and that PING will likely use the opinion of the Japanese market before releasing the irons in the U.S.

 

I have no qualms with my current irons, but these make me want them [C_F note: this guy would fit right in at Golfwrx . . .] and I like the way they look too. :rolleyes: :D :D ;)

 

I am not a big fan of the look of the hosels on Ping clubs and they are a little bulky for my eye. They play nice...but seem like shovels at address.

 

 

Yes, LOSE THE ORANGE! But otherwise, why Japan first, especially for a US made product? Bummer.

 

That is a interesting question since they are made in America? Do you think they took some of thier Iron production overseas along with their driver production.

 

 

First, Titleist comes out with AP's that are just inbred MacGregor Mactecs and Ping S58s. And now these Ping S57s look just like the S58s except with Rapture soles and toes slapped on the bottom. Just more evidence that barring the invention or application of some new metal, designers may have hit the wall in what new stuff they can create. Then you have have Taylormade that already hit the wall, bounced off, went over the rail and burst into flame with their new Tour Burner offerings.

 

The APs look like the CCI Forged and Cast offerings. The MAC Tecs were way uglier than these Irons. Plus why would anyone copy a Iron that no-one would buy? Yeah the TOur Burner has a freaking powerbow? and are Triangle like Titleist.

 

 

As a ping fan, currently playing I10's, I am a little pissed these are coing out in Japan first. I really like what Ping does with their product cyles et al. but a release in Japan first is a little bit of a head scratcher.

 

Yeah what is the deal with that??? They make thier name off of made in the USA but now they are marketing to the Asian Market 1st...Maybe they had some help with production.

[sandy]

Chances are Ping will want some type of medallion in the center. I don't understand why they didn't utilize similar designs that are on their Irons and the bottom of their woods.

Something like this . . .

 

oh WOW those look hot without the orange medallion...if they put a black S57 in the cavity instead, man o man...

 

Ping is the only US golf equipment company that is both ISO certified for quality management and for environmental management.

 

The reason the newer iron designs now have plates (or medallion, or stickers) instead paint fill is so we can reduce the amount of toxic waste produced during the process.

 

You use the phrase "we". Are you an employee of Ping? I thought you had stated you work for a temp agency in the club assembly room at Ping?

 

Worked my butt off and got hired last December.

 

I learned about the using plates instead of paint fills designs to reduce toxic waste during a new employee ISO introduction meeting.

 

HMMM, Thought Ping had a policy against posting on these type forums particularly by employees. Especially on product that they have to deny official knowledge of in the U.S.

[307golf]

Hey, thanks for plugging the leak! Do you also tell 5 year olds that there is no easter bunny or santa clause...

 

Ruining the fun of having an 'inside man' is not cool.

 

ckguy, please don't listen to sandy. Your info is more than welcome here...:rolleyes:

[MatrixcMan]

Hey, thanks for plugging the leak! Do you also tell 5 year olds that there is no easter bunny or santa clause...

 

Ruining the fun of having an 'inside man' is not cool.

 

ckguy, please don't listen to sandy. Your info is more than welcome here...:rolleyes:

 

 

Sandy was having some fun...chill out.

 

CK's info is hardly "inside information". Most of what he has posted is generally known as he's not going to risk his employment with Ping.

[Nille]

i have a silly question...

 

what's with the "W" on the toe.

 

 

please tell me that does not stand for wedge.

 

Tungsten Weight

 

 

The W is for Wolfram. The German word for tungsten.

 

I think the S57 look great. Not much different than the s58, though.

[ckguy914]

i have a silly question...

 

what's with the "W" on the toe.

 

 

please tell me that does not stand for wedge.

 

Tungsten Weight

 

 

The W is for Wolfram. The German word for tungsten.

 

I think the S57 look great. Not much different than the s58, though.

 

 

Having compared them side by side, they look very different.

[c010r4d0g01f3r]

Anyone else think that these are the nicest Ping irons in a LONG time? I just love the way the heads look, and they just look amazing...the orange paint scheme sorta sucks but that can be fixed...

:) :black eye: :)

[MatrixcMan]

i have a silly question...

 

what's with the "W" on the toe.

 

 

please tell me that does not stand for wedge.

 

Tungsten Weight

 

 

The W is for Wolfram. The German word for tungsten.

 

I think the S57 look great. Not much different than the s58, though.

 

 

The "W" is actually the symbol for Tungsten on the periodic table.

 

The periodic symbol "W" does come from "Wolfram".

[sandy]

#74 White or grey metallic transition element, formerly called wolfram. Forms a protective oxide in air and can be oxidized at high temperature.