Jump to content

Tangent, anyone using it?


Recommended Posts

I have recently started using Tangent, which appears to be the most modern and up to date version of v1game.  

 

https://www.tangent.golf

 

This appears to be the original developer of v1game who has this new app now...which is doing pretty much everything V1game/Roundabout ever did, plus some new things.  I'm not sure how or why v1game is still being marketed in its older form from different ownership.  Some kind of story there.  But I am kind of liking Tangent and wondering if anyone else has been trying it out?

 

Maybe later after I get more rounds with it I will post a more detailed review.

Mizuno JPX923 Tours

Ping and TaylorMade Hybrids

Taylor Made RBZ 4W and Sim2 Driver

Scotty Cameron Fastback

Currently playing TP5, BRX, BX (still deciding)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I have been testing it out.  Currently have been interacting with the dev about some bugs, I will post a more thorough review with images and stuff, after we work through some of those things.  He is very motivated and active developer.

 

As a prelude to that, what I will say is that first in answer to your question, the subscription is normally I think $120/near or something like that, but there is a 30% discount code floating around from Adam Young, I can't remember what it is now, but I can find out if you can't find it.  Good for first year.   All the various GPS apps seem to be coming up to ~$100/year for their premium levels...that is just inflation for you.

 

Tangent is basically the evolution from v1game (now currently sold under the name "Roundabout").  It's the same original developer.  I'm not sure how or why the original app changed ownership and the dev is able to continue on with a competitive new product, but that appears to be the case.  It shares many many similarities with v1game, but has some new features and is heading in some new directions that I really like the direction it's going.  Adam Young is endorsing it a lot and I can tell from some of the new features that Adam may have had some influence over some of the new features.

 

It still uses the breadcrumb approach that was used in v1game to track everywhere you go on the course and leave little icons where it guesses you made a swing.  If you use the apple watch with it, its much better at detecting swings immediately.  Recent update made it actually capable of detecting putts and small chips too, though it doesn't seem to get the precise location of those always.

 

The stat tracking is honestly I think the best out there for phone/watch combo.  It is very detailed if you want it to be, and can provide numerous helpful reports including dispersion reports and many other aspects, not to mention strokes gained and areas of coaching focus.  In addition it has a bunch of built in drills you can do, either on a driving range or with a sim, where you quickly enter onto the watch the result of each shot, and basically not only get good practice, but also it gathers club statistics that way which can then be used on the golf course with the AI caddie feature.

 

I am finding it a bit buggier than Roundabout, which I had tried a few months ago and really liked.  Then I moved to GolfShot for a bit and at first liked it, but then I didn't.  Now I'm going with Tangent because I feel this is the next iteration of v1game and I'm happy to help fund the developer and see how it goes, but I do feel its a little rough around the edges compared to Roundabout (v1game) at the moment, but will be improving quickly over time, and has some compelling new features that I really like compared to Roundabout.  

 

One feature I really like is that when I'm planning a shot on the phone I can move my finger around on the map at various potential destinations and it will overlap dispersion arcs of my various clubs based on collected stats or manual overrides...and then this can help me determine quickly which club to use taking not only distance into consideration but also dispersion arcs.  This is an area that is currently being enhanced and developed.  Often times the Ai caddie chosen club is already at pretty much the best location and is in fact already a the right choice...even for layups.   I would like to see it develop more stuff in the area of targeting, knowing L/R tendencies of each club..and for example, looking at the green and knowing dispersion, L/R tendencies and distance range...come up with the most optimal club to use.  I think it might be moving towards that.

 

If you want to, you can track fat/thin/toe/heel strikes for each shot.  You can track trajectory of each shot.  You can track details about the lie.  you can even track if you were mentally distracted or not.  For putting you can track info about how you missed the hole, help identified if its green reading or chronic pull, etc.   All of that is optional and not needed for strokes gained, but the stats and reports available go way beyond strokes gained, so if you track that stuff with a few extra clicks, you can find some important tendencies.

 

The swing detection is quite good but not perfect.  Its better then GolfShot.  I feel that it has a lot of built in AI that is attempting to figure out what you were trying to do, trying to make it automatic, but sometimes gets that wrong and then when I try to manually correct on the fly as I go, it can sometimes get confused, working with the dev on some of those things now as we speak.  He is very engaged and motivated.

 

The watch app is a big improvement over v1game, with a lot more info.  You can see yards to hazards ( like golfshot), front, center, back of course, which club you're currently tracking and how far you hit as you walk towards the ball, you can see a map of the fairway or green if you want, you can can choose where the pin is located, which is quite sensible, you just click a button for the flag and it prompts you to place it front, center, back, left, right middle on a 9 position grid; which you can usually determine when standing 180 yards out looking at the green.   Then it will adjust some of the yards its showing you accordingly and perhaps help you plan your approach.  This is better then actually having to stand next to the flag and select its location or drag it around (which you can also do if you want on the phone).

 

The watch also shows wind speed and direction and how much it thinks you need to add or take off the distance.  The phone app shows elevation change as well..not sure if that's on the watch I haven't found it.  It will also show a "plays like" distance based on the wind and elevation...on the watch as well.

 

the Tangent watch app doesn't require you to confirm every shot like v1game/roundabout did.  It assumes you confirmed it and starts tracking it.  If you need to change it you can, even as you walk towards the ball.  This is much more automatic and less involved than before with v1game. 

 

The dev is also a great golfer himself and basically he must be the biggest user also.  He is very motivated to make it the best app on the market and resolve bugs as needed as well as enhance the app with the best new features.

 

 

 

  • Like 1

Mizuno JPX923 Tours

Ping and TaylorMade Hybrids

Taylor Made RBZ 4W and Sim2 Driver

Scotty Cameron Fastback

Currently playing TP5, BRX, BX (still deciding)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Our picks

    • Tiger Woods - WITB - 2024 US Open
      Tiger Woods - WITB - 2024 US Open
        • Like
      • 49 replies
    • 2024 US Open - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 US Open - Monday #1
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Tiger Woods - WITB - 2024 US Open
      Edoardo Molinari - WITB - 2024 US Open
      Logan McAllister - WITB - 2024 US Open
      Bryan Kim - WITB - 2024 US Open
      Richard Mansell - WITB - 2024 US Open
      Jackson Buchanan - WITB - 2024 US Open
      Carter Jenkins - WITB - 2024 US Open
      Parker Bell - WITB - 2024 US Open
      Omar Morales - WITB - 2024 US Open
      Neil Shipley - WITB - 2024 US Open
      Casey Jarvis - WITB - 2024 US Open
      Carson Schaake - WITB - 2024 US Open
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       

      Tiger Woods on the range at Pinehurst on Monday – 2024 U.S. Open
      Newton Motion shaft - 2024 US Open
      Cameron putter covers - 2024 US Open
      New UST Mamiya Linq shaft - 2024 US Open

       

       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
      • 5 replies
    • Titleist GT drivers - 2024 the Memorial Tournament
      Early in hand photos of the new GT2 models t the truck.  As soon as they show up on the range in player's bags we'll get some better from the top photos and hopefully some comparison photos against the last model.
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 292 replies
    • 2024 Charles Schwab Challenge - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Charles Schwab Challenge - Monday #1
      2024 Charles Schwab Challenge - Tuesday #1
      2024 Charles Schwab Challenge - Tuesday #2
      2024 Charles Schwab Challenge - Tuesday #3
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Keith Mitchell - WITB - 2024 Charles Schwab Challenge
      Rafa Campos - WITB - 2024 Charles Schwab Challenge
      R Squared - WITB - 2024 Charles Schwab Challenge
      Martin Laird - WITB - 2024 Charles Schwab Challenge
      Paul Haley - WITB - 2024 Charles Schwab Challenge
      Tyler Duncan - WITB - 2024 Charles Schwab Challenge
      Min Woo Lee - WITB - 2024 Charles Schwab Challenge
      Austin Smotherman - WITB - 2024 Charles Schwab Challenge
      Lee Hodges - WITB - 2024 Charles Schwab Challenge
      Sami Valimaki - WITB - 2024 Charles Schwab Challenge
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Eric Cole's newest custom Cameron putter - 2024 Charles Schwab Challenge
      New Super Stroke Marvel comic themed grips - 2024 Charles Schwab Challenge
      Ben Taylor's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Charles Schwab Challenge
      Tyler Duncan's Axis 1 putter - 2024 Charles Schwab Challenge
      Cameron putters - 2024 Charles Schwab Challenge
      Chris Kirk's new Callaway Opus wedges - 2024 Charles Schwab Challenge
      ProTC irons - 2024 Charles Schwab Challenge
      Dragon Skin 360 grips - 2024 Charles Schwab Challenge
      Cobra prototype putters - 2024 Charles Schwab Challenge
      SeeMore putters - 2024 Charles Schwab Challenge
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
      • 0 replies
    • 2024 PGA Championship - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put  any questions or comments here
       
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 PGA Championship - Monday #1
       
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Michael Block - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      Patrick Reed - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      Cam Smith - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      Brooks Koepka - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      Josh Speight - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      Takumi Kanaya - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      Kyle Mendoza - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      Adrian Meronk - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      Jordan Smith - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      Jeremy Wells - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      Jared Jones - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      John Somers - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      Larkin Gross - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      Tracy Phillips - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      Jon Rahm - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      Keita Nakajima - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      Kazuma Kobori - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      David Puig - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      Ryan Van Velzen - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Ping putter covers - 2024 PGA Championship
      Bettinardi covers - 2024 PGA Championship
      Cameron putter covers - 2024 PGA Championship
      Max Homa - Titleist 2 wood - 2024 PGA Championship
      Scotty Cameron experimental putter shaft by UST - 2024 PGA Championship
       
       
       
        • Like
      • 13 replies

×
×
  • Create New...