Jump to content
2024 PGA Championship WITB Photos ×

using tee as marker


Recommended Posts

  • Replies 15
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

well actually... on the green you are not suppose to use anything that penetrates the green as a mark, because that can be considered 'testing the ground' and you could be penalized...

 

for example, those plastic markers that proshops give away with the plastic point... well those are not legal for tournament play.

 

I only know this because in a local provincial qualifier... there was a guy called on it!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

well actually... on the green you are not suppose to use anything that penetrates the green as a mark, because that can be considered 'testing the ground' and you could be penalized...

 

for example, those plastic markers that proshops give away with the plastic point... well those are not legal for tournament play.

I only know this because in a local provincial qualifier... there was a guy called on it!

 

Actually, I'm pretty sure that's not true. I know Stewart Cink uses those to mark his balls in tournament play. If sticking a ball marker into the green is considered 'testing the ground', then what would you consider fixing a ball mark?

 

BDLz

Link to comment
Share on other sites

under rule 16-1 D, During the stipulated round, a player must not test the surface of any putting green by rolling a ball or roughening or scraping the surface.

 

 

And from the interpretation I received was that a marker that breaks the surface of the green is considered to be testing! You can repair a ball mark, but if you read the rule, even if you remove a loose impedemant (rock, acorn, etc) and repair the hole or place it was in, its a penalty...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

under rule 16-1 D, During the stipulated round, a player must not test the surface of any putting green by rolling a ball or roughening or scraping the surface.

 

 

And from the interpretation I received was that a marker that breaks the surface of the green is considered to be testing! You can repair a ball mark, but if you read the rule, even if you remove a loose impedemant (rock, acorn, etc) and repair the hole or place it was in, its a penalty...

 

Where did you get the interpretation? Because that doesn't sound anything close to accurate. I would say FALSE.

 

Maybe thats a Canadian rule?

Stealth 2+ 7.0 PD 6X

Stealth 2+ 5wd ADDI-7x

iCrossover 3H ADDI 95x

ZX7 MKii 4-AW C-Taper 130x

MG4 56* 60* DGX7 Spinner 

PLD Custom Anser 2D BGT Stability 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

20-1/16 Method Used to Mark Position of Ball

 

Q. The Note to Rule 20-1 provides that “the position of a ball to be lifted should be marked by placing a ball-marker, a small coin or other similar object immediately behind the ball.” Is a player penalized if he uses an object that is not similar to a ball-marker or small coin to mark the position of his ball?

 

A. No. The provision in the Note to Rule 20-1 is a recommendation of best practice, but there is no penalty for failing to act in accordance with the Note.

 

Examples of methods of marking the position of a ball that are not recommended, but are permissible, are as follows:

 

• placing the toe of a club at the side of, or behind, the ball;

 

using a tee;

 

• using a loose impediment;

 

...

I could be wrong
I've been wrong before
I'll be wrong again
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Using a tee as a ball marker is poor etiquette.

 

Is there a rule for using something as a ball marker?

And should we always mark on the green?

 

Once I offered a coin to my playing buddy while he was using a bright red tee.

He rarely mark his ball and if he does, he's using tees.

It is not poor etiquette. Everyone on here has been caught without their marker on a green and had to use the only think in their pocket, usually a tee. No one really uses one for every hole, every round. Anyway, etiquette is not a rule, this was a rule question.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

under rule 16-1 D, During the stipulated round, a player must not test the surface of any putting green by rolling a ball or roughening or scraping the surface.

 

 

And from the interpretation I received was that a marker that breaks the surface of the green is considered to be testing! You can repair a ball mark, but if you read the rule, even if you remove a loose impedemant (rock, acorn, etc) and repair the hole or place it was in, its a penalty...

Based on that interpretation, walking on the green with spikes are testing the putting surface. EVERYONE...MAKE SURE NOT TO WALK ON THE GREEN! :D

Link to comment
Share on other sites

20-1/16 Method Used to Mark Position of Ball

 

Q. The Note to Rule 20-1 provides that “the position of a ball to be lifted should be marked by placing a ball-marker, a small coin or other similar object immediately behind the ball.” Is a player penalized if he uses an object that is not similar to a ball-marker or small coin to mark the position of his ball?

 

A. No. The provision in the Note to Rule 20-1 is a recommendation of best practice, but there is no penalty for failing to act in accordance with the Note.

 

Examples of methods of marking the position of a ball that are not recommended, but are permissible, are as follows:

 

• placing the toe of a club at the side of, or behind, the ball;

 

using a tee;

 

• using a loose impediment;

 

...

 

This clarification of the rule is a fairly recent one. I know of a player on this forum that was either penalized or DQ'd (can't remember which) in a Canadian Tour event about 20 years ago for using a tee to mark his ball!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This is why using a tee (or even worse, a divot fixer) is poor etiquette.

Really, any marker larger than about the size of a quarter is discourteous to playing companions.

 

Drives me nuts when people don't mark their balls when they're 2 or 3 feet from the hole. Generally happens when I'm paired up with very casual golfers.

 

What's so hard about throwing a couple of dimes in your pocket?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I see many players who.....

 

do not mark their balls, don't carry divot tools and don't care for their s***.

walking around, looking at his lie angle at the opposite side of the hole while playing partner is ready to put.

"Giving away" gimme for 5 footer putt and clear your ball from his turf but takes 5 minutes to finish his 1 footer all the time.

 

No rules were broken but I just don't play with those people.

 

How do you call those "poor etiquette"?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Our picks

    • 2024 PGA Championship - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put  any questions or comments here
       
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 PGA Championship - Monday #1
       
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Michael Block - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      Patrick Reed - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      Cam Smith - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      Brooks Koepka - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      Josh Speight - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      Takumi Kanaya - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      Kyle Mendoza - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      Adrian Meronk - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      Jordan Smith - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      Jeremy Wells - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      Jared Jones - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      John Somers - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      Larkin Gross - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      Tracy Phillips - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      Jon Rahm - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      Keita Nakajima - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      Kazuma Kobori - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      David Puig - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
      Ryan Van Velzen - WITB - 2024 PGA Championship
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Ping putter covers - 2024 PGA Championship
      Bettinardi covers - 2024 PGA Championship
      Cameron putter covers - 2024 PGA Championship
      Max Homa - Titleist 2 wood - 2024 PGA Championship
      Scotty Cameron experimental putter shaft by UST - 2024 PGA Championship
       
       
       
        • Like
      • 11 replies
    • 2024 Wells Fargo Championship - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Wells Fargo Championship - Monday #1
      2024 Wells Fargo Championship - Tuesday #1
      2024 Wells Fargo Championship - Tuesday #2
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Akshay Bhatia - WITB - 2024 Wells Fargo Championship
      Matthieu Pavon - WITB - 2024 Wells Fargo Championship
      Keegan Bradley - WITB - 2024 Wells Fargo Championship
      Webb Simpson - WITB - 2024 Wells Fargo Championship
      Emiliano Grillo - WITB - 2024 Wells Fargo Championship
      Taylor Pendrith - WITB - 2024 Wells Fargo Championship
      Kevin Tway - WITB - 2024 Wells Fargo Championship
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Rory McIlroy - 2024 Wells Fargo Championship
      New Cobra equipment truck - 2024 Wells Fargo Championship
      Eric Cole's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Wells Fargo Championship
      Custom Cameron putter - 2024 Wells Fargo Championship
      Matt Kuchar's custom Bettinardi - 2024 Wells Fargo Championship
      Justin Thomas - driver change - 2024 Wells Fargo Championship
      Rickie Fowler - putter change - 2024 Wells Fargo Championship
      Rickie Fowler's new custom Odyssey Jailbird 380 putter – 2024 Wells Fargo Championship
      Tommy Fleetwood testing a TaylorMade Spider Tour X (with custom neck) – 2024 Wells Fargo Championship
      Cobra Darkspeed Volition driver – 2024 Wells Fargo Championship
       
       
       
       
        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 2 replies
    • 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson - Monday #1
      2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson - Monday #2
      2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson - Tuesday #1
      2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson - Tuesday #2
      2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson - Tuesday #3
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Pierceson Coody - WITB - 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson
      Kris Kim - WITB - 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson
      David Nyfjall - WITB - 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson
      Adrien Dumont de Chassart - WITB - 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson
      Jarred Jetter - North Texas PGA Section Champ - WITB - 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson
      Richy Werenski - WITB - 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson
      Wesley Bryan - WITB - 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson
      Parker Coody - WITB - 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson
      Peter Kuest - WITB - 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson
      Blaine Hale, Jr. - WITB - 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson
      Kelly Kraft - WITB - 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson
      Rico Hoey - WITB - 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson
       
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Adam Scott's 2 new custom L.A.B. Golf putters - 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson
      Scotty Cameron putters - 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
        • Haha
        • Like
      • 11 replies
    • 2024 Zurich Classic - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Zurich Classic - Monday #1
      2024 Zurich Classic - Monday #2
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Alex Fitzpatrick - WITB - 2024 Zurich Classic
      Austin Cook - WITB - 2024 Zurich Classic
      Alejandro Tosti - WITB - 2024 Zurich Classic
      Davis Riley - WITB - 2024 Zurich Classic
      MJ Daffue - WITB - 2024 Zurich Classic
      Nate Lashley - WITB - 2024 Zurich Classic
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      MJ Daffue's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Zurich Classic
      Cameron putters - 2024 Zurich Classic
      Swag covers ( a few custom for Nick Hardy) - 2024 Zurich Classic
      Custom Bettinardi covers for Matt and Alex Fitzpatrick - 2024 Zurich Classic
       
       
       
      • 1 reply
    • 2024 RBC Heritage - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 RBC Heritage - Monday #1
      2024 RBC Heritage - Monday #2
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Justin Thomas - WITB - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Justin Rose - WITB - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Chandler Phillips - WITB - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Nick Dunlap - WITB - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Thomas Detry - WITB - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Austin Eckroat - WITB - 2024 RBC Heritage
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Wyndham Clark's Odyssey putter - 2024 RBC Heritage
      JT's new Cameron putter - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Justin Thomas testing new Titleist 2 wood - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Cameron putters - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Odyssey putter with triple track alignment aid - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Scotty Cameron The Blk Box putting alignment aid/training aid - 2024 RBC Heritage
       
       
       
       
       
       
        • Like
      • 7 replies

×
×
  • Create New...